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CatsbyAZ

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #154 on: March 09, 2023, 11:08:32 AM »
To steal thoughts from a separate Buckeyes forum offering up a postmortem of Holtmann’s regular season, one thing that was pointed out is how college basketball as of late has a way of making just about anybody look bad on any given year. For example, to the OSU fans wanting Holtmann replaced with names like Iowa State’s Otzelberger or Arkansas’ Musselman – both have really hit a wall throughout conference play this season.

In the national picture big names like Boeheim has Syracuse unable to reach 20 wins in each of the past four seasons. Tom Izzo seems on the wane during the same period. Oregon’s coach, Dana Altman, usually good for at least a S16 run every other season, has hit the same recent rut. And despite his recruiting not dipping, John Calipari’s past three seasons comparatively underachieve.

Several Buckeyes posters name Collins at Northwestern as a worthwhile replacement to Holtmann, and yes, Collins is winning, but after how many years of losing? Someone pointed to Matt Painter as the Big Ten's only coach who, year by year, has a dependable handle on winning appreciably more conference games than he loses.

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« Reply #155 on: March 10, 2023, 11:45:47 AM »
Georgetown is letting go of Patrick Ewing after a disappointing 2022 season. The news was announced by the university on Thursday.

Georgetown announced the coaching transition via a press release. The Georgetown graduate talked about how grateful he was to have been able to coach at his alma mater. The Hoyas finished the season at 7-25 after losing to Villanova in the first round of the Big East Tournament on Wednesday.

“I am very proud to be a graduate of Georgetown University. And I am very grateful to President DeGioia for giving me the opportunity to achieve my ambition to be a head basketball coach,” Ewing said. “It is particularly meaningful to me to be in charge of the basketball program at my alma mater. I wish the program nothing but success. I will always be a Hoya.”
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #156 on: March 10, 2023, 04:58:43 PM »
Rumors Kansas is trying to force Bill Self out, to hire Chris Holtman

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #158 on: March 14, 2023, 12:06:17 PM »

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #159 on: March 15, 2023, 05:12:48 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/120/Contents/holtmann-confirms-hes-staying-206536536/?page=1

My guess is that this is just spin and the underlying reality is that Notre Dame took a closer look and is no longer interested.

Here are a few comments from Ohio State fans on that site that pretty much sum up the mood among Ohio State hoops fans with a few kool-aid drinking wildly optimistic exceptions:

Damn, somehow we took another basketball L and the season been over for 3 days.

Like somebody else said in the other thread…. Ohio State doesn’t get that lucky. No shiitty coach is ever going to leave here on their own accord. At least we had something to dream about for a couple weeks.

No surprise if true. I never thought he was going to get fired this season, especially after that 3 year extension last summer. Giving Holtmann that extension with 3 years left on his contract was the most idiotic decision of Gene Smith’s career at Ohio State. I’ve accepted Holtmann is what is and has a track record of 12 years with no conference titles and one sweet sixteen. It is wishful thinking if you believe Holtmann can elevate this program more than what he did in years 2 to 5 at Ohio State.

Holt is just good enough to not get fired but he is also not good enough to win anything meaningful.

Unfortunate but not surprising. I said in another thread he would be back. I blame Gene Smith more for the demise of OSU basketball than Chris Holtmann himself tbh.

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« Reply #160 on: March 15, 2023, 05:51:43 PM »
More Buckeye fans from that thread.


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Gene Smith I almost compare to Darth Sidious in the Star Wars prequels lol. We see all of these sports underachieving and try and look at those coaches when in the shadows it's Gene Smith and his hirings and reckless money spending that has the athletic department in debt. He botched tattoo gate, the zach smith situation, he hired Holtmann (and extended him), hired Greg Beals (and kept him far too long), and let's not forget he had absolutely NOTHING TO DO with the hiring of Urban. That was the board of trustees and I remember the Urban introductory press conference that Gene Smith appeared to not even want to be there and people wanted him fired at the time. He brought on Ryan Day and did not interview ANYONE ELSE which is a red flag considering Ryan had no coaching experience at the time. Absolute fish out of water during that time.

All in the mean time he props up other sports that virtually nobody cares about and gives the OSU womens hockey team a new rink when the atheltic department is in debt LMAO. No wonder the OSU athletic department is a joke to most other fanbases.


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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #161 on: March 15, 2023, 08:37:08 PM »
Why are we sharing deranged quotes from messageboard weirdos that would be way too weird and vitriolic for this place?

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2023, 04:22:09 PM »
https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/lists/big-ten-basketball-programs-ranked-by-most-ncaa-tournament-wins-all-time-ohio-state/

B1G Programs ranked by NCAA Tournament wins:

  • 72 Michigan State, 72-34, .679
  • 68 Indiana, 68-36, .654
  • 66 Michigan, 66-30, .688
  • 58 Ohio State, 58-34, .630
  • 44 Purdue, 44-34, .564
  • 44 Maryland, 44-29, .603
  • 42 Illinois, 42-34, .553
  • 40 Wisconsin, 40-25, .615
  • 31 Iowa, 31-31, .500
  • 14 Minnesota, 14-14, .500
  • 10 Penn State, 10-12, .456
  • 6 Rutgers, 6-9, .400
  • 2 Northwestern, 2-2, .500
  • 0 Nebraska, 0-7 .000

Just another illustration of the obvious. 

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« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2023, 07:55:39 PM »
Izzo's been to more Sweet 16s than any other Big Ten program except Indiana and Michigan. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2023, 09:52:26 PM »
Izzo's been to more Sweet 16s than any other Big Ten program except Indiana and Michigan.
I think that's more impressive than MSU having the most tournament wins, because they have had their entire peak during the 64 team era.  Some teams only had like 3 opportunities to win a game during a whole tournament.  But the flip side is, as soon as the made the tournament, they were already in the final 8 or 16.

Also he has 13 UPSET wins over top 4 seeds

 

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