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MaximumSam

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #126 on: February 24, 2023, 06:33:07 PM »
coach's job saver

not the entire program
Bronny is the 33rd ranked player on 247  and a combo guard. OSU already has a freshman coming in who is the the 36th ranked player at the same position. Plus they (hopefully) return their backcourt, who are freshmen this year. Yet another freshman guard doesn't really move the needle except to have Lebron hanging around, which is cool but not, like, helpful.

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« Reply #127 on: February 24, 2023, 06:40:14 PM »
LeBron Sr would have saved Jim O'Brien's job
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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #128 on: February 24, 2023, 06:41:58 PM »
LeBron Sr would have saved Jim O'Brien's job
Lebron Sr was one of the best five basketball players in the history of man. Bronny is...not.

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« Reply #129 on: February 24, 2023, 06:50:10 PM »
yes, but one season by the greatest might save a coach's job, for a few seasons, but wouldn't save a program in decline
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« Reply #130 on: February 24, 2023, 07:03:38 PM »
yes, but one season by the greatest might save a coach's job, for a few seasons, but wouldn't save a program in decline
Wait are we arguing or agreeing

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #131 on: February 24, 2023, 07:17:51 PM »
both

It's just better that way

Brutus said, "coach's job"
you said "program"

Brutus said, "Sr"
you said, "Bronny"

I'm not sure if those are the same person
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« Reply #132 on: February 24, 2023, 07:32:46 PM »
both

It's just better that way

Brutus said, "coach's job"
you said "program"

Brutus said, "Sr"
you said, "Bronny"

I'm not sure if those are the same person
Bronny is Lebron's kid

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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #133 on: February 24, 2023, 07:47:17 PM »
I learn something useless every day

I might forget this tomorrow
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« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2023, 09:20:00 PM »
Jim O'Brien's final season was a disaster in large part because Terrance Dials got injured early in the season. Had a freshman LeBron James been commanding most of the attention, then maybe that might not have happened. LeBron would have been running the point instead of Brandon Fuss-Cheatam. So right there you replace the worst starter on the team with the best player in the world. Dials in the paint, with JJ Sullinger and Tony Stockman on the wings. Stockman was a chucker, but LeBron likes to have a guy like that to hit open shots on the perimeter. Plus Stockman always led the team in steals, so his D was not exactly awful. Microwave Ivan Harris off the bench when Stockman went cold, who along with James would have been the top two freshmen out of Ohio, so the recruiting would have been viewed as a feather in O'Brien's cap instead of a glaring insufficiency. Then you'd have Matt Sylvester and Vladamir Radinovic coming off of the bench. That would have been a Helluva team. 
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Re: Basketball Coaching Carousel
« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2023, 08:14:48 AM »
Bronny seems like a kid who could come in and be a positive player as a freshman - he has the reputation of a good passer and tries hard on defense. As some sort of program saver? No way in hell.

I think LeBron's impact at OSU will be a lot bigger than anything on the court. NIL deals, excitement about the program, fans in the arena, News, ESPN coverage, etc. Having LeBron here will make OSU basketball exciting.  I don't know (because I haven't paid attention) if he is good enough to have an impact on the court, but I think he and his dad will have a tremendously good impact around the court. I mean it's not he is the next big thing to grace campus, but it's his father legitimacy is in the conversation of greatest basketball player ever. I also think if Lebron Senior has actual ties with OSU I think his involvement will also increase. (Which I also think is good.)

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« Reply #136 on: February 27, 2023, 02:16:30 PM »
I think LeBron's impact at OSU will be a lot bigger than anything on the court. NIL deals, excitement about the program, fans in the arena, News, ESPN coverage, etc. Having LeBron here will make OSU basketball exciting.  I don't know (because I haven't paid attention) if he is good enough to have an impact on the court, but I think he and his dad will have a tremendously good impact around the court. I mean it's not he is the next big thing to grace campus, but it's his father legitimacy is in the conversation of greatest basketball player ever. I also think if Lebron Senior has actual ties with OSU I think his involvement will also increase. (Which I also think is good.)
I think where ever he goes will be a complete shit show with the circus that will come to town, I would not want that distraction of his father in my program.

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« Reply #137 on: February 27, 2023, 02:30:18 PM »
I think where ever he goes will be a complete shit show with the circus that will come to town, I would not want that distraction of his father in my program.
My thoughts exactly.

It will be worse than the Ball thing.

Much worse. Toxic. Cancerous.
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« Reply #138 on: February 27, 2023, 04:01:46 PM »
My thoughts exactly.

It will be worse than the Ball thing.

Much worse. Toxic. Cancerous.
I think it would be a bit different just because James Sr. has a job. In theory, you can only duck away from an NBA schedule only so much. 

But I also thing you'd be the subject of so much attention. And the dad wouldn't do a ton to alleviate that (he'd also have to step back and be quiet when the coach messes up, which he's not great at already, before being a sports dad). 

It's ironic because I've heard the kid is a pretty good glue guy, nice kid, etc. So absent being on sports center a ton, especially if you're struggling, would be a nice pickup. 

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« Reply #139 on: February 27, 2023, 06:24:07 PM »
he might not have a job next season

and I'd be curious to how much worse it could be than the Ball thing
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