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« Reply #742 on: May 17, 2023, 10:55:06 AM »
surprising

to me anyway
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #743 on: May 17, 2023, 11:13:54 AM »
And the calculations are ... somewhat dubious, as they note.  I'm interested in the properties of the new EV delivery vans coming out.   The stop and go nature of them would seem ideal for electric motors.
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« Reply #744 on: May 17, 2023, 11:41:49 AM »
I'm a bit surprised FedEx or UPS hasn't adopted
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #745 on: May 17, 2023, 11:43:48 AM »
They are in the process, but the inventory doesn't yet exist in sufficient numbers.

Everything you need to know about Amazon’s electric delivery vans from Rivian



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« Reply #746 on: May 17, 2023, 11:59:32 AM »
BrightDrop: All-Electric Delivery System | General Motors (gm.com)

This is a neat concept I think.

BrightDrop Trace

The Trace is an electrified and connected pallet developed to transport goods and services over short distances – for example, from the delivery vehicle to the customer’s front door. The Trace helps reduce package touch points, operational costs, and physical strain on delivery drivers. It also helps reduce congestion by allowing delivery companies to limit curbside package operations and on-street parking and enables better tracking of packages from the sorting center to the front door. In a pilot with FedEx in Toronto, couriers using the Trace were able to deliver 25 percent more packages per day. Couriers shared feedback that the Traces were easy to maneuver and reduced physical strain. The Trace offers electric hub motors capable of matching walking speeds, 23 total cu. ft. of space, and a payload capacity of 200 lbs.

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« Reply #747 on: May 17, 2023, 12:05:12 PM »
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« Reply #748 on: May 17, 2023, 01:29:36 PM »
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« Reply #749 on: May 17, 2023, 01:32:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 17, 2023, 11:41:49 AM
I'm a bit surprised FedEx or UPS hasn't adopted
Well, even if they adopt, they have a lot of rolling stock already in their fleet. Much of it on NG and I found an article about adding renewable NG as an option which emits CO2 but is part of the natural carbon cycle (unlike fossil fuels) so shouldn't add NET CO2 to the environment. They're not just going to throw away the [working] old trucks and replace them en masse. So adoption would likely be slow burn as the older trucks age out. 

The FedEx/UPS fleets aren't like rental car fleets or corporate car fleets where they want to replace everything on a 2-3 year cycle. 
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« Reply #750 on: May 17, 2023, 02:21:30 PM »
we're trying to save the planet here
some sacrifices need to be made

I'd guess UPS or FedEx could get some good marketing from simply saying they are going to EVs as they change out the fleet.
They wouldn't need to give real figures as to how many or how long it might take
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« Reply #751 on: May 17, 2023, 03:06:45 PM »
A lot of this is indeed marketing and PR, maybe most of it, no doubt.  Delivery companies also need the charging infrastructure to be installed at their base.
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« Reply #752 on: May 17, 2023, 03:17:18 PM »
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« Reply #753 on: May 17, 2023, 03:47:30 PM »
The Erosion of Tesla's EV Market Share Is Happening Now (jalopnik.com)
The Erosion of Tesla's EV Market Share Is Happening Now (jalopnik.com)

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« Reply #754 on: May 17, 2023, 04:01:09 PM »
no surprise
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« Reply #755 on: May 17, 2023, 04:06:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 17, 2023, 02:21:30 PM
we're trying to save the planet here
some sacrifices need to be made
The best thing anyone can do to reduce their carbon footprint is simple: die. The second best thing: don't have kids
don't have kids. 

But if you want to stay alive or operate a company, you have to look at the economics. And a transition to an EV fleet may be economical, whereas a wholesale short-term replacement to an EV fleet will not be, and in the grand scheme of things, will only make a tiny at most difference to anything. 
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