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Topic: Best Pass/Run QB Season?

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bayareabadger

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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2024, 12:31:11 PM »
My eyeballs say Cam Newton.  A one man wrecking crew.

And as MDOT said above --- who else was on that team? 

Maybe Michael Dyer as RB? 
I mean, Dyer was a 5-star top-15 recruit who ran for 1,000 yards as a true freshman in the SEC and then was first-team All-SEC the next year. The other RB was a 4.34 40 guy who ran for 800 yards as part of that killer scheme. Couple of nice linemen. But year, it was all him. 

I think what's interesting with the group above is almost every one had a season that is superlative in a certain way. So it leaves it up to the picker to decide what a run/pass QB season means. Cam had the best/most impactful season for a modern guy who ran the hell out of the ball. Among this set, I think he almost assuredly had the best rushing season. But I think his passing season was a few steps below great. Just because of offensive construction/general volume/etc., I think his passing season was in the lower echelon of the group and I dinged him accordingly. 

But yeah, if we're talking best/most impactful season, yeah, Cam for sure. 

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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2024, 12:50:36 PM »
I'm shocked Ray Goff is not on this list.

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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2024, 02:13:28 PM »
I'm shocked Ray Goff is not on this list.
I was shocked to learn he was an awesome option QB.  

But he's not on here because his ass only had 29 pass attempts for the season
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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2024, 02:29:10 PM »
I dimly recall they had a decent backup passing QB that year, but I'm surprised he only managed 29 forward passes (he had 32 as a junior).  Wow, he was 7th in Heisman voting, I didn't know that.


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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2024, 02:32:50 PM »
 Wow, he was 7th in Heisman voting, I didn't know that.


That's what I'm saying!
Before creating those UGA teams for my game, all I knew of him was as the clown HC in the 90s.  
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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2024, 02:34:44 PM »
His head coaching tenure was, um, less than spectacular.  Then Donnan was mediocre and lost to rivals.  And then Richt who had some very good years.  Maybe we should fire Smart as the trend seems to be upwards.


Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread.  Cam Newton was pretty good.

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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2024, 02:44:23 PM »
Here's how putrid passing was in the 70s:
UGA's "good passing QB" Matt Robinson's line:  44% comp, 7 TD, 6 INT, 121 rating
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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2024, 02:48:25 PM »
And ironically the SEC record for career passing yards is held by a Dawg, last I checked, maybe someone passed him.  When you get known as a run oriented offense, folks think you are that way forever.


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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2024, 03:00:17 PM »
The whole conference was run-first, run-next into the 90s.  UGA never passed much until Zeier.  
Spurrier dragged the conference kicking and screaming into the modern age.
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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2024, 03:07:39 PM »
Bratkowski came to national prominence in his sophomore season at the University of Georgia in Athens in 1951,[4] and was twice the SEC passing leader under head coach Wally Butts. During his three-year career with the Bulldogs, he completed 360 passes for 4,863 yards.

Bratkowski was considered one of college football's greatest quarterbacks of his day and was the NCAA's all-time leading passer until 1961. Today, he still ranks eighth on Georgia's list of career passing leaders. Bratkowski also led the NCAA in punting his senior year in 1953 with a 42.6 yard average. 

The Dawgs were a passing team long ago.  They had a fellow named Tarkenton also.  Speaking of way back, this fellow was a pretty good dual purpose kind of player too:

Charley Trippi College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com


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Re: Best Pass/Run QB Season?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2024, 03:19:21 PM »
Yes, every school had their talented arm that got more attempts.  They all pretty much stunk.  

Florida had John Reaves, who famously threw 9 INTs in a game.  He was the nation's all-time leading passer, thanks to the Gator Flop.  But he had more INTs than TDs and a 53.5% comp.  115 rating.  Okay for back then, but not good in a vacuum.

Hell, Pat Sullivan won a Heisman at Auburn, but only had a 55% comp and 135 career rating.  Again, I'm fully aware that it was a different era and context, but these coaches rewarding arm talent back in the day hampered their teams with pretty bad results.

Archie Manning had more INTs than TDs and simply was not a good passer.  But boy, could he scramble!  

For the B1G, there's even less high-volume passers going back in time.  Purdue's Mike Phipps was the career leader in attempts for around a decade, and basically had a 1:1 TD:INT ratio and 120 pass rating.  

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