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Topic: Electric Vehicle News Items

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #112 on: March 02, 2022, 10:06:51 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko3w02ycBwI
Of course we're not going to destroy the planet...

...we just might make it unable to sustain the roughly 8B humans who live here. 

Which is kinda, well, important. At least from the perspective of one of those 8B. 

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« Reply #113 on: March 02, 2022, 10:10:56 AM »
Well George Carlin is dead so what does HE care?


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« Reply #114 on: March 02, 2022, 10:14:39 AM »
Well George Carlin is dead so what does HE care?
His daughter is still alive, and although he seemed like a callous asshole on stage, I'm guessing he probably wants the planet to be able to support her and not devolve into world wars over resource scarcity caused by climate change. 

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« Reply #115 on: March 02, 2022, 10:15:29 AM »
His daughter is still alive, and although he seemed like a callous asshole on stage, I'm guessing he probably wants the planet to be able to support her and not devolve into world wars over resource scarcity caused by climate change.
Does he?  Didn't sound like it from his comedy bit...

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« Reply #116 on: March 02, 2022, 10:41:05 AM »
Does he?  Didn't sound like it from his comedy bit...
You're aware that stand up comedians refer to their set as an "act", right? And that they might not believe every thing they say on stage?

Although I'll agree... Now that he's dead, he doesn't care, because he no longer exists. But I'm sure that before his death, he wished, like most parents, that his child would live safely and happily all her years.

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« Reply #117 on: March 02, 2022, 10:58:10 AM »
the comedy thread is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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« Reply #118 on: March 02, 2022, 03:00:14 PM »
You're aware that stand up comedians refer to their set as an "act", right? And that they might not believe every thing they say on stage?

Although I'll agree... Now that he's dead, he doesn't care, because he no longer exists. But I'm sure that before his death, he wished, like most parents, that his child would live safely and happily all her years.

Well then it seems silly to use a comedy bit as a supporting argument for a political or ideological view, I'd say. :)

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« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2022, 08:47:13 PM »

How Much Does It Cost to Charge an Electric Car?

https://www.cars.com/articles/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-an-electric-car-447817/

Tesla Superchargers and other fast-charging networks like Electrify America and EVGo bill by kWh whenever possible, but you may also be billed by the minute depending on state regulations. According to Electrify America, “We believe pricing on a per-kWh basis offers a fair and consistent charging experience to EV drivers. We are working with regulators to follow the various processes that are required for us to provide EV charging on a per-kWh basis.”

Exclusively using DC fast chargers when it’s not complimentary — as with our Model Y — would shrink cost savings versus charging at home. Frequent DC fast charging is also not recommended as it can degrade battery health more quickly. Exclusively Supercharging would cost $84 to drive a Model Y 1,000 miles at $0.30 per kWh, versus $39.54 at home, using EPA combined efficiency figures.

Electricity Vs. Gasoline Costs
When charging at home, EVs are more affordable to refuel versus comparable gasoline cars, but don’t confuse that with electric cars being immediately cheaper to own because, at the moment, the extra expense related to buying an EV and installing home-charging equipment doesn’t make a quick payoff a sure bet. Relative to your existing electrical bill, charging an EV could mean a sharp increase, but in most cases, the cost is considerably lower than fueling a gasoline-powered car. The Department of Energy says on average, it costs about half as much to drive an EV versus a comparable gas car.
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« Reply #120 on: March 12, 2022, 07:40:42 AM »
The recycle thing is kind of a scam.  The recyclers have some low paid workers standing by a conveyor mainly looking for aluminum cans.  They might get some plastic, maybe, if it's large and doesn't have the cap on it and throw that in another bin.  Cardboard has negative value unless it's adjacent to a cardboard recycling plant, which they aren't.  Plastic bottles are usually PE and caps are PP and they don't recycle in the same stream.  A bottle with a cap on it goes to landfill.  Glass is dangerous so they ignore that, unless it's in a source separated glass stream.

Most goes to landfill, I suspect that 26% figure is only for some highly developed recycling ops.

You can calculate how much it costs to charge your car at home pretty easily.  Here it would be pretty cheap, I'm paying about 6 cents per kWhr last I checked.  An EV may need 60-100 to recharge.  EVs rarely need new brakes and don't need oil changes.

I'd go plug in hybrid if I wanted to be economical right now.

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« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2022, 09:43:24 PM »
Thomas Edison poses with his first electric car, 1895.

May be an image of 1 person and outdoors
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« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2022, 11:14:03 PM »
Speaking of recycling, hopefully one of the up and coming battery recycling companies solves the problem of what to do with all the batteries from these EV cars when they die out. With the price of lithium at the moon, it’s now more important than ever to solve that issue.

Couple companies out there with Li-cycle being the most well known name, but St. Georges Eco-mining and who I believe to be the future of the industry in American Battery Technology. Their CEO Ryan Melsert is a former Tesla guy and his intellect is at a different level compared to his peer competitors.

Interesting video for a little insight - https://youtu.be/R-TpCei5MWQ

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« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2022, 09:05:11 AM »
What do we do today with old cars?  Many are scrapped I imagine and the metals melted and reused.  Batteries would be more of a challenge.

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« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2022, 09:07:52 AM »
today's car batteries are recycled, but lead based
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2022, 09:28:53 AM »
And they are quite a bit simpler than the Tesla batteries.

 

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