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170 miles towing doesn't even get me to Dallas or Houston.  

ICE will be around for a long while because without some new technology in batteries that we haven't even discovered yet, it's not ever going to be capable of doing the things that a lot of users require.

I keep on wondering why hybrids aren't more prevalent in the truck/full-sized SUV market segment.

Yes-I guess FORD wanted this car to win in competition, on road courses. Even a professional driver using a manual could never compete with the dual clutch seven speed automatic that shifts instantly on its own or when using the paddle shifters.

Eh. Most of the people who buy this thing won't ever see a race track and wouldn't know what to do if they did. 

IMHO actually snicking through gears with a short-throw shift lever and a clutch adds to the visceral satisfaction of driving a performance car in a way that an automatic or flappy paddles do not. 

40 miles?

Might as well just have a diesel

Eh. Most of the people who buy this thing won't ever see a race track and wouldn't know what to do if they did.

IMHO actually snicking through gears with a short-throw shift lever and a clutch adds to the visceral satisfaction of driving a performance car in a way that an automatic or flappy paddles do not.

Agreed.  Not disputable. 

most people that buy true performance cars will never track them.

But- many will.  And if they track this car, and MANY do- they will have substantially better lap times than they could ever accomplish with a manual. And Ford came right out and said that’s why they don’t offer a manual.  Well- that and it is way too much power for that kind of gear box.

Those that are serious about taking this particular vehicle on a road course are opting the $18000 carbon performance package, which includes rear seat delete, carbon ceramic brakes, carbon wheels and a much bigger ( uglier) rear wing. 

but-let’s be honest.  Cars like this are not for most people.  Not their cup of tea. 

How GM Is Aiming to Master the EV Universe—and Topple Tesla—by 2025 (motortrend.com)

I'll believe it when I see it. Tesla is run by a legitimate genius and visionary, and GM is run by.....some woman from Michigan that is just your run of the mill CEO who rose up the ranks at a boring auto company she's worked at forever. There is nothing exceptional about her.

Tesla still owns roughly 80% of the EV market as of 2021. That is bound to change with all cars going electric and every manufacturer entering the fray, they won't own 80% - there's no way- that will go way down - but they will still without a doubt be the major player in EVs. Their product, tech, and innovation is still years ahead and just better than everyone else's. And it will remain better for the foreseeable future. They also have one thing that is literally invaluable that none of the others have - BRAND. Tesla = EV's the way Apple = Smartphone. And Tesla is a luxury brand. GM isn't.

GM has a brand/image problem. They spend $2.7 to $4.5 billion a year advertising over the last 6 years, changes every year- but that's the min and max ad spend. Tesla spends exactly....zero dollars advertising. Tesla has the cult-like brand following, and they blow up on media and social media whenever they announce anything- and they do that all while spend exactly ZERO dollars doing so. GM can't do this- nor will they ever will have this ability or a cult like following. It's organic to Tesla/Musk - and it's worth more than any amount of money can buy.

GM is going to production with a $200,000+ electric Cadillac sedan. Literally no one is going to buy this. The only vehicle they make and actually sell high quantities of that is north of $100,000 is the Escalade.

I don't want to hear the prognostications from all the Tesla haters - they've been bashing Tesla and predicting it's doom from the start- and every time Tesla is on the brink - Musk just puts his nose to the grindstone throws all the chips to the center and comes out on top. Won't be any different here. Some people are just born different and better than everyone else. There are very few of these people on earth and in life. Musk is one of these people.