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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #378 on: May 03, 2019, 11:08:51 AM »
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #379 on: May 03, 2019, 01:40:28 PM »
So ELA's Top Ten has five SEC teams, or 50% of the remaining teams. 2 Big Tens, 2 ACCs, and UCF make up the other half. 

1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #380 on: May 03, 2019, 01:49:06 PM »
sounds about right
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #381 on: May 03, 2019, 04:36:35 PM »
Oklahoma's offense probably won't be as good, due to the loss of 4/5 of the Whatchimicallit Award-winning O-line.  But the defense should be better.  If the defense can go from horrible (last year) to mediocre (ranked in the 50-69 range), maybe the offense won't have to score 40-plus points every game to even have a chance to win.

The OOC schedule does not look daunting.  If the O-line can gel in time for the Texsa game, it could be another 12-2, Big 12-champs sort of year.
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #382 on: May 03, 2019, 05:07:41 PM »
So ELA's Top Ten has five SEC teams, or 50% of the remaining teams. 2 Big Tens, 2 ACCs, and UCF make up the other half.


Yep. It won't end that way, because with a lot of those teams playing each other you won't end up with 5 SEC teams finishing in the top 10. 

But if you're doing it on a pure power ranking, I don't disagree.

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #383 on: May 03, 2019, 06:47:03 PM »
Yep. It won't end that way, because with a lot of those teams playing each other you won't end up with 5 SEC teams finishing in the top 10.

But if you're doing it on a pure power ranking, I don't disagree.

For the record I wasn't throwing shade at his rankings, just breaking down the demographics of the Top 10. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #384 on: May 03, 2019, 11:31:18 PM »

There does still exist the possibility of an all-SEC ELA Top Five. That would be sweet. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #385 on: May 04, 2019, 11:51:41 AM »
Oklahoma's offense probably won't be as good, due to the loss of 4/5 of the Whatchimicallit Award-winning O-line.  But the defense should be better.  If the defense can go from horrible (last year) to mediocre (ranked in the 50-69 range), maybe the offense won't have to score 40-plus points every game to even have a chance to win.

I thought tOSU was grooming Grinch to replace Schiano not privy to the shake up on the sidelines in C-Bus.Perhas him and Day were not on the same page.Was kind of surprised when he bolted for Norman just because he was an Ohio guy but so was Stoops.Seemed to be riding an upward trajectory from working with the Pirate in Pullman.Nothing against the Buckeyes getting Greg Mattison as I'm sure he'll work great with Larry Johnson and add some stability with URBZ exiting.But Grinch was certainly intriqueing and may have big things ahead of him
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #386 on: May 04, 2019, 03:12:46 PM »

10. Syracuse Orange
#2 in ACC
While it didn’t necessarily seem as though it was trending in any one direction, Dino Babers’ program broke out in Year 3, and Syracuse had its best season in 17 years, going 10-3 and finishing #15 in the final polls.  Since going 10-3 and finishing #14 in 2001, the Orange hadn’t ever finished ranked, had been to just three bowls, and had only had a winning conference record three times, never since leaving the Big East for the ACC.  It’s easy to write it off as a one season flash in the pan, with a schedule aided record, but I actually think the Orange are for real, as long as Babers remains in upstate New York.  For real as in a threat to Clemson?  On one hand, no.  On the other, they beat them in 2017, and should have beaten them in 2018, in Death Valley, if not for a comeback led by a third string quarterback.  But there were plenty of other metrics, not just human polls, that were on board.  They finished #18 in the Massey Composite.  Babers up tempo offense still seems to have an edge over ACC defenses.  The Orange averaged 15.75 possessions per game, most in the nation, and 82.92 plays per game, second most.  Only eight teams played at a faster pace than the Orange’s 2.70 plays per minute.  But of those pace teams, Syracuse was the most effective (although it would take a much deeper dive than I’m willing to take to find out all of the reasons) at getting opponents to play at their pace, of any team in the nation.  Of the top 11 pace teams in the nation, none had opponents play at as quick a pace as the Orange.  While Babers isn’t going to change his mentality, you do wonder how much of that tempo was aided by a senior quarterback, who had been starting at least some games since his freshman year.  Eric Dungey graduated as the school’s all time passing leader, and also finished second in rushing yards for a quarterback, behind only Bill Hurley, who played in the 70’s, but about 400 yards ahead of some dude named Donovan McNabb, who is now third on that list.  Sophomore Tommy DeVito is the likely successor, and he saw decent action last year as a redshirt freshman, appearing in 8 games, and throwing 87 passes.  As a passer he should be fine with experience, but he is nowhere near the runner that Dungey was.  And Dungey’s running ability was worked into the offensive scheme with increasing frequency as his career progressed, and some adjustments will have to be made.  Otherwise the ground game, which averaged over 200 yards per game, looks to be in great shape, when leading rusher, Moe Neal, who averaged 5.6 ypc, elected to return for his senior season.  He’s now joined by Oklahoma transfer Abdul Adams, who averaged 9.2 ypc as a sophomore, on 59 carries.  The receiving group is in equally fantastic shape, losing Jamal Custis, but returning three players who had over 40 receptions, including Taj Harris, who was a breakout true freshman star last year.  They also add transfer Trishton Jackson, who was the #1 receiver at Michigan State at one point.  Considering the pace Syracuse plays at, both ways, thus averaging the most possessions per game, the fact that they were 6th in the ACC in scoring defense is actually quite remarkable.  They were not terrible on a per play basis, finishing 7th in the ACC, but they were very opportunistic, finishing 4th in the nation in takeaway rate, and 6th in turnover margin, first in the ACC in both.  6th nationally in third down defense and 5th in sacks per game, 2nd in the ACC behind Clemson in both.  Some of those are things, that frequently revert to the mean, so while Syracuse’s defense isn’t bad at all, considering they were on the field for 73 plays per game, it still should result in more than 27 ppg allowed.  They do return seven starters, led by Andre Cisco, who may have been the best safety in the ACC last year, as a true freshman, so they per play numbers should come down to compensate.  What should continue to be outstanding is the special teams, with both kicker Andre Szmyt and punter Sterling Hofrichter earning first team All-ACC honors, helping a special teams unit rank #2 in S&P+, and both returning for 2019.  Receiver Sean Riley also led the ACC in punt return yardage, averaging 16.4 yards per return, 5th best in the nation.


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RBMoe Neal, Senior
WRSean Riley, Senior
KAndre Szymt, Sophomore
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SAndre Cisco, Sophomore
PSterling Hofrichter, Senior



9. Central Florida Knights
#1 in American
This is just about the hardest team to figure, because I have no idea how good they actually are.  They’ve lost only one game over the past two seasons, so they are clearly the tallest of the midgets, but how much taller?  Then you have the McKenzie Milton issue.  Arguably the most dynamic quarterback in the nation, who suffered a horrific knee injury in the Knights’ regular season finale.  When I was compiling these rankings back in January, there was too much uncertainty there.  Was he done forever?  Was he returning in 2019?  Partway through 2019?  How close to 100% would he be if/when he did return?  I chose to treat it as though he was a returning player, which now seems certainly wrong.  He is able to walk some without crutches now, but even by his own words, he’s planning a 2020 return.  That would send UCF way down in these rankings, at least into the low teens.  Darriel Mack Jr. did not exactly instill a lot of confidence in replacing Milton down the stretch.  He was 5-14 for 81 yards and 51 rushing yards finishing that USF game, and 11-30 for 97 yards with -3 rushing yards in the Fiesta Bowl loss to LSU.  He did play well against Memphis in the AAC Championship Game, digging the Knights out of a big early hole with 348 passing yards and 59 rushing yards.  It’s the lack of consistency that is most concerning, with a completion percentage below 37% in two of those three games, and averaging just 2.7 ypc.  Maybe with a full offseason to tinker the offense away from Milton’s strengths it will go better.  If Milton was back and 100%, this would otherwise be the most loaded offense of the Central Florida three year renaissance.  It starts up front with the return of four offensive linemen, including three first team all-conference players, from a line that ranked top 15 in the nation nearly across the board in offensive line metrics, including #8 in line yards.  They’ll be blocking for a fantastic running back duo of Greg McCrae, who ran for 1,182 yards on 8.9 ypc, and Adrian Killins, who somehow was the one of the two to earn all-conference honors, while running for 715 yards on 4.9 ypc.  As far as targets go, the Knights return five of their top six receivers, including receiving leader Gabriel Davis, as well as their top tight end.  In other words, if this offense doesn’t work, it’s 100% on Mack.  Their defense was actually better by most metrics last year than it was in 2018, but overall it still feels like they are playing with fire, regarding overly relying on turnovers.  The Knights have led the AAC in turnover margin each of the last two years, finishing #2 and #3 in the nation, respectively.  Hell, just being very good in back to back years is tough enough, but to be top 3 nationally?  Just for comparison, the two teams ahead of UCF last year, Georgia Southern and Kansas, were #49 and #126 in 2017, and the one team ahead of them in 2017, Wyoming, fell to #48 last year.  That’s how you wind up second in the AAC in scoring defense, while ranking 8th in total defense.  For comparison, the 8th best scoring defense, Navy, allowed 11 more points per game than UCF.  On the other hand, UCF only won one game last year (31-30 at Memphis) by less than 11 points.  So maybe the gap is just that wide.


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RBGreg McRae, Junior
WRGabriel Davis, Junior
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CBNevelle Clarke, Senior
SRichie Grant, Junior


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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #387 on: May 04, 2019, 04:43:57 PM »
There does still exist the possibility of an all-SEC ELA Top Five. That would be sweet.

Michigan at 8, OSU at 7, and Clemson at 6. 
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WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #388 on: May 05, 2019, 08:54:27 AM »
I'm guessing Clemson is in the top 3
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« Reply #389 on: May 05, 2019, 02:48:07 PM »

8. Michigan Wolverines
#2 in Big Ten
For some teams, the fact that there is eight months of offseason is a very, very good thing.  Michigan fits that bill, with the way the season ended.  One game away, against a seemingly overmatched Ohio State team, from playing a Northwestern team they had already beaten, for their first Big Ten title in 14 years, and first ever College Football Playoff.  Two blowout losses, and 103 points surrendered (from a defense who had given up 102 over their previous eight games combined) later, and it felt like the sky was caving in.  Eight months should give some perspective, and a chance to take a breath.  Is the defense going to be as loaded as it was in 2018?  Seems doubtful, with three players declaring early for the draft, two of them picked in the first round, and overall four defenders gone of Top 3 round NFL Draft caliber out of six departed defenders overall.  But this should be the best offense in Ann Arbor since at least one of the RichRod-Denard teams.  As much heat as that side of the ball took, they aren’t actually that far away, they were ranked #25 in Offensive Efficiency.  The problems were that things offenses are evolving to do, Michigan wasn’t, and there were missed chances to be better.  Michigan was #9 in Pass Offense Efficiency, and #38 in Run Offense Efficiency, yet called running plays at a higher rate than any Big Ten team other than Maryland and Wisconsin.  They averaged 2.00 plays per minute, the third slowest tempo of any non-triple option team in the country.  The addition of Josh Gattis as offensive coordinator has Michigan fans optimistic that Harbaugh is finally willing to change.  Another thing Gattis can do, is a better job of playing to Shea Patterson’s strengths.  Patterson is not a pocket passer.  He has a strong arm, and can go downfield, but it’s not the system he is comfortable in.  When he was rolling out, when he was taking what the defense was giving him, he was frighteningly effective.  When you could keep him in the pocket, force him to go through his progressions, he struggled.  That’s why Michigan was #9 in Offensive Passing Efficiency, but only #52 in Passing Downs Efficiency.  Patterson in 3rd and long was a different cat.  The line needs to take a big step forward too, if you are going to focus around a power run game, you can’t be #74 in the nation in successful conversions on 3rd or 4th and 2 or less.  The Wolverines recruit too much talent at the lines to be getting pushed around in those situations.  The running back situation is probably the only unit on the team that is a major question mark.  Karan Higdon graduated, Chris Evans is suspended for academic issues, Maury O’Samuels was kicked off the team, and true freshman Zach Charbonnet missed spring with an injury.  What does this all add up to?  Hopefully passing.  A lot of it.  Now I know it’s Michigan, and the highest they’ve ranked in the past decade plus in pass play percentage was #64 in 2015, which is the only time under Harbaugh they cracked the top 100.  But look what Michigan did in 2004, when they had major question at running back until Hart took control of the job, but a deep receiving core of Edwards, Avant and Breaston, and were #50.  That’s all I’m asking for.  Michigan’s current receivers have struggled with injuries and inconsistencies, but it’s a very talented group, and one I think is ready to break out.  Defensively, I’m simply not that concerned.  The secondary should still be very good, I think Lavert Hill is better than either David Long or Ambry Thomas, although Josh Metellus struggled a lot late in the year being asked to do too much.  Injuries late in the year revealed just how much depth the Wolverines had on the line, so losing Gary, Mone and Winovich isn’t nearly the obstacle we would have guessed it to be.  Once again, the question is depth, but I suspect once again the depth is there, just unproven.  My one concern is linebacker, where Michigan has had a historic (for them) run of mediocrity since the 2006 group of Harris, Crable and Burgess left.  Devin Bush broke that, and was the first elite linebacker Michigan has had since.  Now without him, Khaleke Hudson needs to shake his disappointing junior season, and resume the trajectory he was previously on.  Kind of a weird scheduling quirk, but you’d think the years Michigan got two of their three East rivals at home would be the year to make a run, but Harbaugh is 0-4 at home against Ohio State and Michigan State, and 24-0 in all other games, while winning both games in East Lansing.


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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #390 on: May 05, 2019, 06:05:05 PM »
well, it won't be Michigan in the top 5
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« Reply #391 on: May 06, 2019, 11:53:13 AM »
7. :88:hio State Buckeyes
#1 in Big Ten
I think about 99% of fan bases would love for a “down” season the consisted of going 13-1, winning Big Ten and Rose Bowl titles, and finishing #3 in the polls.  To hear the talk going into the Michigan game, after surviving Maryland, you’d have thought the Buckeyes were playing for bowl eligibility, not a Big Ten title.  For only the second time in about two decades there is some uncertainty during the offseason.  Last time, the result wasn’t so good, and while this time certainly has some obviously similarities to the lead in to 2011, there are plenty of differences too.  One of the uncertainties, maybe got cleaned up a little?  Or not?  The quarterback transfer portal was all over Columbus this season.  Dwayne Haskins went from total unknown, to leaving for the NFL Draft two years early.  That meant Justin Fields, who went to Georgia fully aware that Jake Fromm was a good quarterback, got a waiver to be eligible immediately at Ohio State, because...Jake Fromm was a good quarterback?  That meant that Tate Martell, who from what I saw looked nowhere near ready to be a starting quarterback, and who was prepared to backup Dwayne Haskins, also got a waiver to be immediately eligible at Miami, because...he had planned on backing up Haskins, not Fields?  Fields is also largely an unknown, but from what limited reps both got, looked based on the eyeball test to be capable of doing more things than Martell did.  Both clearly were used more for their legs than their arms, so perhaps drawing any conclusions there is fruitless.  The Buckeyes probably have the top running back-receiver duo in the conference, but April and August are for finding them some help.  Dobbins is fantastic, but who takes Mike Weber’s 193 touches?  K.J. Hill and his 70 receptions are back, but how do you replace the combined 167 receptions of Parris Campbell, Johnnie Dixon and Terry McLaurin?  A healthy Austin Mack would go a long way towards solving the second question.  He was third on the team in targets when he was lost for the season during the Purdue game.  He both claims to be 100%, and that his foot still hurts.  He should be a go, but until he shows that he is the same guy he was pre-injury, the cause for concern is legitimate.  Chris Olave began to emerge at the end of last season, and several Buckeye outlets think he is ready to become a star.  The compliment to Dobbins is far dicier.  It seems under Mike Yursich’s new offense, there is more room for a true undersized speed back in the backfield, rather than just as H-back.  Demario McCall may suddenly find himself as a perfect fit in Day/Yursich’s offense, after being a bit of a tweener in Meyer’s.  Still, it’s hard to expect the offense to be nearly as good as last year’s so still putting the Buckeyes as the Big Ten favorite depends on the defense being a lot better than last year.  That shouldn’t be a hard ask.  Just two years ago Ohio State had a top 10 defense nationally, allowing just 300 ypg.  Trying to replace 6 starters, and then losing their best player three weeks into the season, the 2018 defense fell off a cliff, allowing over 100 yards per game more, fifth most in the Big Ten.  They were particularly burned by big plays, surrendering 12.6 ypc, fourth worst in the conference.  That was a defense that wasn’t starting any seniors, and if you don’t count Nick Bosa, who only played the first two complete games, only lost Dre’Mont Jones from their starting group, give or take a Kendall Sheffield, whether or not you count him as a starter, in what was more of a three man cornerback rotation.  May went and raided Don Brown’s staff to try and upgrade the defensive coaching, taking Greg Mattison and Al Washington, and also hiring 49ers defensive backs coach Jeff Hafley in a total defensive staff overhaul.  Only defensive line coach Larry Johnson remained.  The biggest task for the new group is getting more out of the linebackers.  Tuf Borland actually seemed to regress from his freshman season, although Malik Harrison played better down the stretch.  It’s Ohio State, the talent is always there.  Michigan State seems too far away, Penn State has to go to the Shoe, and even in Ann Arbor, I have a tough time seeing Ohio State lose The Game until I see it.  Even with more uncertainty in Columbus than we’ve seen since 2011, the Big Ten title still goes through Columbus.


KEY PLAYERS
RBJ.K. Dobbins, Junior
WRK.J. Hill, Senior
TThayer Munford, Junior
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DEChase Young, Junior
LBMalik Harrison, Senior
SJordan Fuller, Senior


 

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