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Topic: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 11:21:03 AM »
We don't need dueling articles on this, guys.  WE DON'T KNOW.  IT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH TIME TO KNOW. 

This uncertainty is enough to be cautious.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2020, 12:22:31 PM »
Man, Fro must be scared of his own shadow. 
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 12:31:45 PM »
We should be cautious much of the time in normal living.  Being cautious does not mean avoiding all risk (which in any event is impossible).  The term risk:reward ratio is always a consideration.

Many here played sports recognizing a risk of being hurt.  I just had a shoulder repair of an injury from 1971 playing baseball.

Obviously, any issue related to the heart when one is 20 years old merits due consideration.  I think the players should be made aware of that as a possible side effect.

I am slightly surprised we have not had a MAJOR outbreak to this point on a team or teams.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 02:17:02 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 06, 2020, 12:22:31 PM
Man, Fro must be scared of his own shadow.
Does this kind of BS work on you?  Seriously.

You're not brave for opening yourself up to a virus.  You can't out-tough it.  Be smarter than this, please.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 02:18:19 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 06, 2020, 12:31:45 PM


Obviously, any issue related to the heart when one is 20 years old merits due consideration.  I think the players should be made aware of that as a possible side effect.

I am slightly surprised we have not had a MAJOR outbreak to this point on a team or teams.
We could have a bunch of young people die when they're 35 from heart issues from this thing.  But meh, shrug it off, rub some dirt on it, right?


If you're waiting for a major outbreak, just wait.  It's  coming.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 03:37:03 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
We could have a bunch of young people die when they're 35 from heart issues from this thing.  But meh, shrug it off, rub some dirt on it, right?


If you're waiting for a major outbreak, just wait.  It's  coming.
My grandma was just like you. When I was a kid she was in the car with us one day when a dude pulling a boat passed us. My dad commented that it looked like somebody had a fun day on the lake ahead of them.  My grandma snorted, “Or somebody might just drown.”  She was a wonderful woman but she never encountered a risk in her life she felt was worth taking.

Once again, all of us on here are aware there is risks involved in playing football during all this.  That isn’t some piece of information that you, and you alone, understand.  The players and coaches are old enough to make their own decisions.  Some have opted out. I totally get and respect that.  Most are playing. I totally get and respect that.

Everyone has a different level of risk they are willing to take.  It doesn’t make anyone right or wrong.  I’m sure there are players playing and players sitting out who aren’t 100 percent convinced they made the right decision.

While I’m sure you are hoping for the best like the rest of us it sure feels like sometimes you are just waiting for something bad to happen to give a big “I told you so” to everyone.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 03:37:14 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2020, 02:17:02 PM
Does this kind of BS work on you?  Seriously.

You're not brave for opening yourself up to a virus.  You can't out-tough it.  Be smarter than this, please.


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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2020, 07:03:34 PM »
A good thread by a professor of cardiology in England


https://twitter.com/ProfDFrancis/status/1302571279778746369?s=19
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2020, 09:39:27 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on September 06, 2020, 03:37:03 PM
My grandma was just like you. When I was a kid she was in the car with us one day when a dude pulling a boat passed us. My dad commented that it looked like somebody had a fun day on the lake ahead of them.  My grandma snorted, “Or somebody might just drown.”  She was a wonderful woman but she never encountered a risk in her life she felt was worth taking.

I'm nothing like that, lol.  

I simply respect the unknown.  No one seems to note that I'm not saying the sky is falling, simply that we don't know the effects of this thing past tomorrow.  

If I seem to be repeating myself, it's probably because those who are pissy about not having a season keep lamenting it.  But somehow their repetitiveness is okay.  

I simply respect the unknown and I find it astounding how so many adults are acting like sometimes even adults need help doing what's best for them.  
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2020, 11:17:46 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2020, 09:39:27 PM
I'm nothing like that, lol. 

I simply respect the unknown.  No one seems to note that I'm not saying the sky is falling, simply that we don't know the effects of this thing past tomorrow. 

If I seem to be repeating myself, it's probably because those who are pissy about not having a season keep lamenting it.  But somehow their repetitiveness is okay. 

I simply respect the unknown and I find it astounding how so many adults are acting like sometimes even adults need help doing what's best for them. 
I’m sure you probably aren’t like that. Just like I’m sure the people in favor of playing aren’t taking the “just rub some dirt on it” attitude like you suggested.  The caricature of you being frightened of your shadow is just as unfair as the one you are painting of others.

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2020, 11:26:13 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on September 06, 2020, 11:17:46 PM
I’m sure you probably aren’t like that. Just like I’m sure the people in favor of playing aren’t taking the “just rub some dirt on it” attitude like you suggested.  The caricature of you being frightened of your shadow is just as unfair as the one you are painting of others.


I can't help but see the petulance, though.  


Say it wasn't college football.  Say it was something else, same economics, same age group, but not college football.  Would there be such an outcry?  

I'll use "we" here:
WE want the games to happen.
WE know there are minor risks.
WE want it because we want it.


I see it like the idea of heaven.  Of course we invented that idea, of a forever place of our liking - the best possible place.  Because we want it to be.


If I was a player, I'd want to play.  But it would be a good thing that someone stopped me.  If not my parent, then my coach.  If not my coach, then my conference.  The players need saving from themselves and all of the fans who are in angst need that, too.


And here's the thing - maybe they don't.  That's entirely possible, even probable.  But we just don't know.  
That's all.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2020, 11:30:15 PM »

So adults are such idiots that they need someone else to make all of their important decisions for them? 

That sounds... fun. 
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2020, 11:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 06, 2020, 11:30:15 PM
So adults are such idiots that they need someone else to make all of their important decisions for them?

That sounds... fun.
Is that what you genuinely took from my post?  Sheesh.

Sometimes, we ALL need someone to save us from ourselves, no?  So this being something none of us is old enough to have ever faced before, the virus being novel itself, and the thing garnering so much outrage merely being something we WANT and don't need, sure, this is a great INDIVIDUAL important decision that maybe could be made by someone else.

How dare I, I know.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2020, 06:33:54 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2020, 09:39:27 PM
I simply respect the unknown and I find it astounding how so many adults are acting like sometimes even adults need help doing what's best for them. 
I find this to be a common perception among those who view their own abilities to be better than that of the "common man".  Then "they", the smarter folks, can control how the dumber folks behave, shop, select, choose, operate, etc.

They look down their noses at the "common folks" and their decisions to shop at say Walmart and live in a double wide.

If only someone could limit their decision making abilities to more intelligent things.
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