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Topic: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« on: September 05, 2020, 03:51:56 PM »
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2020, 03:58:34 PM »
As my wife has a couple of auto-immune disorders and is also allergic to many of the best meds, the possibility of her death is my biggest worry.  So, no, I don't spend much time thinking about the non-lethal aspects.  They do rate consideration, though, IMO.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2020, 04:48:42 PM »
At some point you play like everybody else or you wallow in a PR headache.

We heard about a ventilator shortage at obsessive repetition until that worry disappeared in the night.

We hear Communications majors who can’t pass a biology class preach the “science” the science they want.

For better or worse: Second Wave, Super Spreaders, Mask mandates, Social distancing.

At some point it’s only a matter of hearing what you want to hear. To that end everybody get ready to be confronted by talk of the “non-lethals.”



https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1302047711131308032
« Last Edit: September 05, 2020, 04:58:15 PM by CatsbyAZ »

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2020, 04:58:08 PM »
At some point you play like everybody else or you wallow in a PR headache.

We heard about a ventilator shortage at obsessive repetition until that worry disappeared in the night.

We’ve hear Communications majors who can’t pass a biology class preach “science” to no end.

For better or worse: Second Wave, Super Spreaders, Mask mandates, Social distancing.

At some point it’s only a matter of hearing what you want to hear. To that end everybody get ready to be confronted by talk of the “non-lethals.”



https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1302047711131308032

I'm not worried about the spread on campus as much as what that spread means when those kids go home

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2020, 05:09:25 PM »
Based on what I've read I don't think it's am overwhelming concern - college athletes less likely to have severe illness and less likely to have long-term issues. But this is a new disease - we don't "know" everything there is to know. So I chose the second option.

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2020, 05:49:21 PM »
I’m worried somewhat but we are living our lives. Daughter has been playing travel softball since June. We’ve let the kids go to birthday parties and have sleepovers.

You make decisions, be as careful as you can, and hope for the best.

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2020, 06:00:47 PM »
We let the kids play sports, and it's a sport by sport level of tolerance.  Baseball and soccer have been pretty good.  All fans wear masks.  All players on the bench/dugout wear masks.  Coaches wear masks unless on the field of play.

Flag football has been...well, much worse

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2020, 02:34:37 AM »
At some point you play like everybody else or you wallow in a PR headache.

We heard about a ventilator shortage at obsessive repetition until that worry disappeared in the night.

We hear Communications majors who can’t pass a biology class preach the “science” the science they want.

For better or worse: Second Wave, Super Spreaders, Mask mandates, Social distancing.

At some point it’s only a matter of hearing what you want to hear. To that end everybody get ready to be confronted by talk of the “non-lethals.”



https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1302047711131308032

It's not some political talking point, though.  It's about a novel virus who's long-term effects we know BUBCUS about.  I'm not sure shrugging and figuring c'est la vie is the best plan when so much is unknown.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2020, 07:27:55 AM »
I'm worried it's going to drag a CFB message board I enjoy reading into places I don't care for. Also that it will create extraneous threads. 

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2020, 07:40:50 AM »
I'm worried it's going to drag a CFB message board I enjoy reading into places I don't care for. Also that it will create extraneous threads.
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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2020, 08:27:31 AM »
I read somewhere, I forget where, that the heart problems once associated with COVID are "not real".  I don't know if that is true at all though.

I do know a lot of initial reports turn out later to have been wrong, or exaggerated.  


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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2020, 08:35:23 AM »
I read somewhere, I forget where, that the heart problems once associated with COVID are "not real".  I don't know if that is true at all though.

I do know a lot of initial reports turn out later to have been wrong, or exaggerated. 


I don't think it's that it isn't real - the myocarditis is a real condition that is caused by other viruses as well as COVID.  The flu can cause long term issues for people - when I was a kid I had a rather nasty flu and had some breathing issues for months afterwards.  In any event, long term issues are associated with serious illness, so it's unlikely that people with no or mild symptoms would have long term effects.  Since college kids and younger are unlikely to have serious COVID symptoms, it would seem unlikely they would have serious longterm effects from COVID as well.  At least that's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2020, 09:22:06 AM »
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-can-wreck-your-heart-even-if-you-havent-had-any-symptoms/

COVID-19 Can Wreck Your Heart, Even if You Haven’t Had Any Symptoms

A growing body of research is raising concerns about the cardiac consequences of the coronavirus

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Re: Do you care about the non-lethal aspects of Covid-19?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2020, 09:23:26 AM »
Myocarditis appears to result from the direct infection of the virus attacking the heart, or possibly as a consequence of the inflammation triggered by the body’s overly aggressive immune response. And it is not age-specific: In The Lancet, doctors recently reported on an 11-year-old child with multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C)—a rare illness—who died of myocarditis and heart failure. At autopsy, pathologists were able to identify coronavirus particles present in the child’s cardiac tissue, helping to explain the virus’ direct involvement in her death. In fact, researchers are reporting the presence of viral protein in the actual heart muscle, of six deceased patients. Of note is the fact that these patients were documented to have died of lung failure, having had neither clinical signs of heart involvement, nor a prior history of cardiac disease.

 

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