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« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2019, 12:26:13 PM »
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2019, 12:36:58 PM »
He could hardly say anything other than that with the season still going.

The Arky coach said the same thing, and now he's gone.
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« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2019, 12:37:35 PM »
Arkansas is a Rutgers level dumpster conflagration right now, speaking of.  
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« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2019, 12:49:34 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 19, 2019, 12:26:13 PM
Mark Dantonio plans to be back in 2020.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2019/11/19/michigan-state-spartans-mark-dantonio-my-intention-here/4237463002/
If Bollman, Warner, Staten and Samuel are ALL gone, I would be ok with that.

Any of those coaches returning are absolutely unacceptable.  I haven't even hated what I've seen from Salem as OC, the players just don't execute.  Last year, I think it was 60/40 playcalling.  This year it's been 80/20 execution.  We need better players.  That means in recruiting and development, these coaches simply aren't getting it done anymore.
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« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2019, 01:02:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 18, 2019, 04:48:17 PM
Hell, ask them if they'd like to be winning 9 games a season running the option (Solich).
I'd prefer this.... but I'm old.  =)
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« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2019, 07:20:00 PM »
Of course if MSU is talking about a coach Narduzzi is going to be mentioned. My gut feeling is that unless MSU really breaks out the checkbook w/ $$$$$$$$$$ of guarenteed money he's going to stay at Pitt for 2020. Seems to really like it here (I'm not naive tho, MSU may help w/ recruiting, and he's been struggling w/ it a bit here). Plus he's got Paris Ford for at least 1 more year, Pickett has really improved and on paper his 2 best pass rushers coming back (they were injured for the year right as the season started) and w/o them Pitt is leading CFB in sacks. Pitt should be preseason top 25 next year.

Also not sure what his relationship w/ Dantonio is (I assume its good?) he might not want to come in if he's forced out.

IMO I think he'd do well at MSU. 
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2019, 07:22:24 PM »
If they get rid of Dantonio for a couple down seasons after some great ones, I think they are risking a near permanent drop to mediocrity.
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« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2019, 08:21:19 PM »
If he's going to continue in his present M.O. - run 'em.Program or Pals choose wisely
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #92 on: November 20, 2019, 07:10:17 AM »
Coaching changes are risky business.  No guarantee the program will go in the right direction afterwards no matter how good the hire looked.



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« Reply #93 on: November 20, 2019, 07:22:46 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 20, 2019, 07:10:17 AM
Coaching changes are risky business.  No guarantee the program will go in the right direction afterwards no matter how good the hire looked.
Very much so. I saw the risk first-hand when BB left and King Barry hired Gerry. After his two years of being a misfit, the program was at a crossroads. UW was very lucky Chryst was available at that time, even though a lot of fans did not like the hire.


So yes. Luck is involved too.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #94 on: November 20, 2019, 10:50:26 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
So yes. Luck is involved too.
Lots and lots of luck because I think "fit" is a big part of it.  Saban has been an absolute wizard at Bama, but would he be equally above the long-term average at MSU (he wasn't), at Boise State (I doubt it), etc.  

The skill-set necessary to be successful at one school is not exactly the same as the skill-set necessary to be successful at another.  That makes it hard to make the right hire because even though he may be great at his last school, he might not be great at yours.  
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2019, 11:09:26 AM »
Saban was good at LSU, Meyer was good everywhere of course, but I agree some coaching types don't translate.
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« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2019, 11:42:21 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
Very much so. I saw the risk first-hand when BB left and King Barry hired Gerry. After his two years of being a misfit, the program was at a crossroads. UW was very lucky Chryst was available at that time, even though a lot of fans did not like the hire.


So yes. Luck is involved too.
That's my only argument against the MSU people who question whether you trust basically a placeholder AD to handle this.  I mean no, but does it matter?  I don't believe Tressel was OSU's first choice.  Florida only got Mullen after missing on Chip Kelly and Tom Herman.  I don't necessarily trust him, but I'm not sure it matters, absent a total public bungling like Tennessee.

Fickell, Campbell and Narduzzi (in that order) would be my top 3.  But Chris Creighton (who just got EMU bowl eligible for the 3rd time in 4 years) and Chris Klieman (Kansas State) also interest me
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2019, 12:57:09 PM »
I'm not sure why people seem to crap on Saban's MSU tenure.  He left after a 9-2 season with all his players comprising the roster.  
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