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I'd blame Urban

They'll probably wind up with someone off of our radar.

Dantonio wasn't exactly a big splash hire. He only took the Bearcats to one bowl game, and didn't win a Conference Title. In fact he and Fickel are the only modern Bearcat coaches that didn't collect a Conference Title. Rick Minter won one a year or two before Dantonio got there. BK won two right after he left. Butch Jones won two, and Tommy Tuberville even won one.

Narduzzi would be the Dantonio type hire. But that might not be considered a good thing among their fan base. He's taken Pitt to a couple of bowl games, and might view MSU as a destination job.

It will be tough to get the young up and comer because it's not the best stepping stone job, being in a loaded division and what not.

Then you look at that 2016 class I posted earlier.  11 of the top 12 and I think 17 kids overall from that class are gone.  Either booted or transferred.  That is the class that would be comprising your RS juniors and true seniors right now, and it's non-existent.  Then behind them you have all of the Plan B kids after Kentucky and Cincinnati took your Plan A kids.  And those Plan B should be your Plan C, but you've abandoned true Plan A kids because you are so jaded from that 2016 class.

I've been meaning to ask you about that 2016 class @ELA , the highest ranked of Dantonio's tenure. It's getting traction as a topic of failure elsewhere, how this year's team wouldn't've fallen off such a cliff if that class hadn't fallen apart.

What happened? Of the 9 recruits ranked in the top 300 nationally (Scout.com rankings):

#94 DE Josh King (IL) - NOT on Roster

#103 DE Austin Robertson (IN) - NOT on Roster

#108 WR Donnie Corley (MI) - NOT on Roster

#179 WR Justin Layne (OH) - NOT on Roster

#224 DT Naquan Jones (IL) - ON Roster, JR

#229 WR Trishton Jackson (MI) - NOT on Roster

#242 WR Cameron Chambers (NJ) - ON Roster, JR

#243 S Demetrice Vance (MI) - NOT on Roster

#245 QB Messiah DeWeaver (OH) - NOT on Roster

That's only TWO of NINE four star recruits still on the team?!?!

The main contributors from the rest of the class are Bachie and Panasuik (3 stars).

When the AD follows firing Mase with hiring a blowhard, used car salesman, NFL TE coach with no coordinator or HC experience, the result was very predictable.

Mase had success, but not near the levels of Dantonio. Dantonio’s teams have historically closed out games. In Mason’s biggest games the Gophers squandered games that seemed impossible to blow

True, but they at least had an identity. You knew they'd have good tailbacks, and a sound running game. Sorta like a poor man's Wisconsin. They didn't have any identity after that, until the Fleckster showed up. Just scary bad.

Actually Canada would be great at Wisconsin. Give him an OL, FB and RB and damn that offense he runs is so beautiful.

He was there in 2012 so I think that was his point..... Honestly I'm not sure why he's out of coaching this year, since I would think he could've easily gotten some type of job at one of his previous schools (Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, NC State, Pittsburgh, LSU), if only an analyst role... Maybe he just wanted a year off, though.

Go to Austin,highly recommended,much better

I've heard of people getting their kidney's stolen in Austin. In Columbus, they take their kidney's and their lungs.    

He was there in 2012 so I think that was his point..... Honestly I'm not sure why he's out of coaching this year, since I would think he could've easily gotten some type of job at one of his previous schools (Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, NC State, Pittsburgh, LSU), if only an analyst role... Maybe he just wanted a year off, though.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/08/27/matt-canada-job-career-maryland-lsu

turned down a couple cooridinator jobs he says. considering he's been in a new place just about every single year in the 10s probably wanted a bit of a rest and/or a well-paid good situtation this year. Said he also realized he loved he being a HC. Maybe App state if their coach leaves?