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ELA

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 11:25:31 PM »
Sean Miller is done

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 11:40:20 PM »
Some more tidbits.  Apparently he offered Bowen, who wound up at Louisville, and was the first player implicated in all of this, to MSU and Indiana in exchange for certain alums (Gary Harris in MSUs case) signed with ASM.  Seems like neither bit on that.

Seems like this kid was in way over his head trying to impress his bosses.  I'm pretty confident major NBA players aren't flipping to his two bit agency bc you can deliver a random recruit to their alma mater.  He'll, Draymond Green played for this guys dad in HS and didn't even sign with his agency
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 07:43:30 AM »
I doubt Sean Miller coaches later today.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2018, 09:10:17 AM »
Arizona should not play today.
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 10:48:37 AM »
Sean Miller is done
paying players to play, like SMU paid Dickerson???
burn them like SMU
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 11:13:20 AM »
paying players to play, like SMU paid Dickerson???
burn them like SMU
I find it hard to believe one runner, for one pretty low level agent brokered two (that we know of) $100,000 deals, and that's it.
No matter where this portion of the story ends, if anyone feels good that they have no players with agent ties, that's naive.
If the worst that comes out of this for MSU is that an agent paid a player's mom a few hundred dollars, I guess that's not horrible.  I assumed most players got that, and I assume that is just the tip for MSU.  I imagine most people don't expense a couple hundred dollars.  Hell, I can say with 100% confidence that a family friend who was a backup (on scholarship, in the two deep, but not a starter) football player at a Big Ten school would find gift cards anonomously left in his locker on a fairly regular basis.  $25 here, $100 there.
So it's not $400 to Bridges mom that makes me nervous, it's that I have a hard time believing this one runner for this one agent was the only guy brokering 6 figure deals.  Hell, look at ASMs client list, it's not exactly filled with top flight players.  Hence the initial attempt to trade Bowen for assurances that former players would sign with ASM, before bailing on that and just selling him to Louisville.
As an aside, I generally don't like handlers, but more and more kids have them.  If MSU or Indiana had said, ok, well talk to Gary Harris or Victor Oladipo to get them to sign with you, and Bowen had gone to MSU or IU, is that a violation?  No money exchange, and basically just an agreement for a former player, now in the NBA, to switch agents?  I honestly don't know.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2018, 12:12:57 PM »
agreed with that, @ELA . with sexton stuff, i'm not worried about what we know. he ate a meal with an agent and agent paid for it? so what. he's already paid it back and served 1 game suspension (ncaa not school) for it. if that's all there is, not worried.

but i am somewhat worried that there's more we haven't heard about. and not just with him. i think coach aj and staff are above the big time stuff, but there's a lot left to be revealed and wouldn't be first time i've been surprised.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2018, 12:29:14 PM »
Maybe just as an optics thing ESPN shouldn't give 18k to a college kid for hitting one shot during Gameday

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2018, 12:35:00 PM »
i'll also add that, while at the time i thought the hire of greg byrne as ad was fantastic, i'm losing confidence in that thought. with all the stuff coming out on arizona that at least some happened under his watch, i'm getting a little nervous some might have followed him to bama.

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2018, 01:36:56 PM »
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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2018, 02:28:59 PM »
Two B1G assistants now directly implicated in the agent runner emails. Stephens from MSU and Chuck Martin formerly of Indiana.

https://sports.yahoo.com/black-market-diaries-emails-hoops-corruption-case-detail-inner-workings-sports-underbelly-030605930.html

Yahoo has insiders with the Feds other news agencies haven’t found yet. They are going to play this out piece by piece over the next 2-3 weeks.

I always assumed this was happening with some programs, but the details of the underbelly are fascinating. It boggles my mind that this was so blatantly documented and discussed in emails and phone calls of all things.

When you couple the Sean Miller details with the track and field abuse and Rich Rod investigation their athletic dept may be winning a hard fought race to the bottom among the Power 5’s. 

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2018, 02:49:18 PM »
Two B1G assistants now directly implicated in the agent runner emails. Stephens from MSU and Chuck Martin formerly of Indiana.

https://sports.yahoo.com/black-market-diaries-emails-hoops-corruption-case-detail-inner-workings-sports-underbelly-030605930.html

Yahoo has insiders with the Feds other news agencies haven’t found yet. They are going to play this out piece by piece over the next 2-3 weeks.

I always assumed this was happening with some programs, but the details of the underbelly are fascinating. It boggles my mind that this was so blatantly documented and discussed in emails and phone calls of all things.

When you couple the Sean Miller details with the track and field abuse and Rich Rod investigation their athletic dept may be winning a hard fought race to the bottom among the Power 5’s.
As I posted last night, those emails actually make MSU and Indiana look good.  He was shopping Bowen around to schools, in exchange for them trying to convince alums to sign with ASM.  None of the targets did, and Bowen didn't go to either school

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2018, 02:58:09 PM »
As I posted last night, those emails actually make MSU and Indiana look good.  He was shopping Bowen around to schools, in exchange for them trying to convince alums to sign with ASM.  None of the targets did, and Bowen didn't go to either school
The question I have is this:
Did these assistants report these contacts to their athletic department? Did the athletic department report these things to the NCAA? 
Now, I'm not sure that there is any sort of requirement that they do so. But you would think that if an agent is out shopping a specific player, an upstanding follow-the-rules athletic program signaling to the NCAA that not only are you not "buying", but also that the player in question maybe should be investigated, might be a good idea.
If you don't report MAJOR violations like this, one wonders what else you're not reporting--such as the violations you're willing to play ball with. Honor among theives, right?

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2018, 03:13:42 PM »
The question I have is this:
Did these assistants report these contacts to their athletic department? Did the athletic department report these things to the NCAA?
Now, I'm not sure that there is any sort of requirement that they do so. But you would think that if an agent is out shopping a specific player, an upstanding follow-the-rules athletic program signaling to the NCAA that not only are you not "buying", but also that the player in question maybe should be investigated, might be a good idea.
If you don't report MAJOR violations like this, one wonders what else you're not reporting--such as the violations you're willing to play ball with. Honor among theives, right?
I asked above though, because I don't know.  Is that a violation?  Tons of guys have handlers.  If a handler tells a school he can deliver a kid if the school convinces an alum playing in the NBA to sign with a certain guy, what's the violation?  I truly don't know

 

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