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Topic: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #350 on: December 31, 2020, 10:13:25 AM »
Yeah, it's not like option football has gone anywhere. Army runs a lot of triple option because they can't recruit guys who can throw and catch very well. Their average recruiting rank is like 115

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #351 on: December 31, 2020, 10:25:51 AM »
I know the Badgers gave up a lot of yards, but almost 200 of them came on the first two drives, and on the very last drive, with all 2-3 string guys playing defense. In between all of that, the Badgers played pretty solid defense, getting stops when needed, and turnovers. Overall, I'll take it.


If you take away all of their bad plays, they were awesome. 
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #352 on: December 31, 2020, 10:32:21 AM »
Wisconsin got the V.   Easily.   The rest is just spin.  
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #353 on: December 31, 2020, 10:34:53 AM »

If you take away all of their bad plays, they were awesome.
Given that they only had two DL available to them, and one of those came off on a cart, I'll take it.
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #354 on: December 31, 2020, 10:39:35 AM »
/Climbs on small soap box that would pitch to a smaller, faster soap box

Why is every damn option team game a referendum on the option? Like, it's a bowl, drawing much meaning from it is kinda silly.

It's especially silly in this bowl. First, this is not a good Army offense. Like, by the usual standards of any option offense, it's kinda dreadful. Second, WVU is not your normal Big 12 team in that it too is bad at offense and good at defense. Three, any time Army plays a P5 team, it should lose. Full stop. This is literally a team that can't recruit players bigger than a certain size. If WVU wins comfortably, nothing should be taken from it other than, this is how it was suppose to go.

Do I think the option would have some trouble in the Big 12 with the pace, but I think that to a degree is overblown. Option teams are generally underdogs. And when underdogs fall behind by 14-21, they mostly lose. If you're up-tempo, maybe it wins you a game every year or two, and maybe you lose about as many because you can't sit on the ball. Shoot, Bill Snyder played option adjacent football for years, and it was mostly OK to sometimes good. This isn't to say that Oklahoma should start with it, but Kansas? Maybe.

(I mean, lots of offenses look bad all the time, but we're never like, "Look, that one team couldn't manage a high-tempo balanced spread, can't work in that conference")
for example:  Mike Leach's air raid offense is 4th in the SEC and out of the top 15 this season.  Not horrible, but not up to his standard.
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #355 on: December 31, 2020, 10:46:14 AM »
LOL
Let me put it in a proper context for you.  Imagine your 08 Sooners facing Florida without:
WR Chaney
WR Iglesias
WR Johnson
WR Broyles
TE Gresham
DT McCoy
LB Lewis
CB Franks
S  Jackson
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Not in terms of talent, man-for-man, but those positions and that aggregate.
I didn't know that UF was missing 9 starters last night.  Is that right?
In any event, most of them chose to skip it.
I sure didn't get ESPN having Pitts on there rambling on and on wishing his teammates well.  You wish your teammates well?  Show it with your actions, not empty words.
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #356 on: December 31, 2020, 10:48:06 AM »
I didn't know that UF was missing 9 starters last night.  Is that right?
In any event, most of them chose to skip it.
I sure didn't get ESPN having Pitts on there rambling on and on wishing his teammates well.  You wish your teammates well?  Show it with your actions, not empty words.
Definitely sucks for Trask, whose stock probably took a big hit

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #357 on: December 31, 2020, 10:57:32 AM »
his teammates didn't seem to give a shit
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #358 on: December 31, 2020, 11:11:58 AM »
How many Florida starters were absent because they opted out and how many missed because of injury
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #359 on: December 31, 2020, 11:18:26 AM »
OSU hardly has anyone opt out. Brandon Roby is the only one that jumps to mind. 

If your players cannot wait to get the hell out of there, that's a problem.
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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #360 on: December 31, 2020, 11:21:02 AM »
I think bowls should get some sort of player assurance of participation and the right not to invite

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #361 on: December 31, 2020, 11:25:20 AM »
I think nearly all the starters opted out to prep for the combines and not get injured.

It wasn't COVID related.

Trask hurt his stock obviously.  OU did a nice job of jumping routes.

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #362 on: December 31, 2020, 11:28:21 AM »
for example:  Mike Leach's air raid offense is 4th in the SEC and out of the top 15 this season.  Not horrible, but not up to his standard.
msu is 2nd to last in scoring offense and bottom half in total offense. they're 5th in passing offense, which i guess is good since they basically forgo trying to run at all.

don't get me wrong, i think hes a good coach and will do fine in sec. but they were pretty bad this year and easy to shut down with a simple 8 man zone drop. virtually every team did it to him after lsu game and they were shut down.

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Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
« Reply #363 on: December 31, 2020, 11:30:53 AM »
I think bowls should get some sort of player assurance of participation and the right not to invite


this year aside (i'm fine with player s opting out for covid reasons) i think once you make a commitment to the team you should honor it. i get wanting/needing to protect your future, and i can respect that. but i'm really big on keeping your word and commitments.

 

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