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Title: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2020, 05:06:34 PM
Bowl season starts tomorrow, so get ready for midday football between teams you may know nothing about.  Who's ready!

Myrtle Beach Bowl
Dec. 21st, 2:30, ESPN
Appy State v. North Texas

It's too bad that attendance is probably out of the question. Who wouldn't want to go to Myrtle Beach, get buzzed on the beach, then watch a football game?  Buzzed is how you should watch this game, because it may be the biggest mismatch of the season.  F+ isn't updates but based on Week 15 stats Appy State checks in at 27 and North Texas at a glistening 117.  Appy State lost competitive games to Marshall, Louisiana, and Coastal Carolina, who are all good.  North Texas finished 4-5 in Conference USA and lost to SMU by 30 and Charlotte by 28.  Don't set your alarms, is what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2020, 05:07:37 PM
Ask CD
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 20, 2020, 05:36:54 PM
I conquered Myrtle Beach a few times. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2020, 05:57:02 PM
3-7 Mississippi State going to the Armed Forces Bowl. 9 win Army misses a bowl.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 20, 2020, 06:23:30 PM
3-7 Mississippi State going to the Armed Forces Bowl. 9 win Army misses a bowl.
That makes no sense.  Did Army opt out?
Did the bowl reserved for Army (when bowl-eligible) get canceled?

Never mind.  I see that the Independence Bowl must have gotten canceled.

"It rains upon the just . . . ."
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 21, 2020, 06:51:04 AM
The B1G Bowl Slate

Duke's Mayo Bowl - Wiscy v. Wake Forest, Dec. 30th, noon
Music City Bowl - Iowa v. Mizzou, Dec. 30, 4 pm
Outback Bowl - Indiana v. Ole Miss, Jan. 2nd, noon
Citrus Bowl - Northwestern v. Auburn, Jan 1., 1 pm
Sugar Bowl - OSU v. Clemson, Jan. 1, 8 pm
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 08:22:43 AM
I've never heard of Duke's Mayo, so I looked it up. I guess it's a thing down here. I'll buy some on my next shopping trip.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 08:32:21 AM
I'm surprised so many teams are opting out of the bowl games. I get that this year is the worst ever, but I would think the kids would want to play and that the coaches would want the extra practice.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 08:44:08 AM
I'm surprised so many teams are opting out of the bowl games. I get that this year is the worst ever, but I would think the kids would want to play and that the coaches would want the extra practice.
Many teams have been at least somewhat bubbled since the season began.  They've not been allowed to visit family or friends, even over Thanksgiving.  A lot of them are ready for that to end, and get back to some normal life.  Especially with the Christmas holidays at hand.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 08:47:38 AM
They are probably safer in the bubble??
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 08:50:23 AM
They are probably safer in the bubble??
Don't think they're particularly worried about safety, and just want to see family and friends. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 08:52:09 AM
They are probably safer in the bubble??
Emotionally no
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 08:56:02 AM
Emotionally no
I don't know. I'm sure they would like to see family, but I'd argue that they are better off with their team than we are, from an emotional standpoint.

This will be the first time ever that we will not be seeing any family or friends for Christmas.

I'm making Alton Brown's turkey. A small turkey.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 08:59:10 AM
See if they were at home they could make Alton Brown's Turkey - or not
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 09:06:36 AM
I don't know. I'm sure they would like to see family, but I'd argue that they are better off with their team than we are, from an emotional standpoint.

This will be the first time ever that we will not be seeing any family or friends for Christmas.

I'm making Alton Brown's turkey. A small turkey.

They've been isolated for months.  Their peers have not.   Many of them are emotionally exhausted from that and they don't see the point in continuing it, just to play in a meaningless exhibition game.

And some of them DO want to play, and those are the teams that aren't opting out.

Looks pretty simple to me, it's preposterous to force them to continue isolating when the season is over.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
See if they were at home they could make Alton Brown's Turkey - or not
Yup.  It's our choice to do so, and it's their choice too.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 09:09:25 AM
They've been isolated for months.  Their peers have not.  Many of them are emotionally exhausted from that and they don't see the point in continuing it, just to play in a meaningless exhibition game.

And some of them DO want to play, and those are the teams that aren't opting out.

Looks pretty simple to me, it's preposterous to force them to continue isolating when the season is over.

I'm not saying they should be forced. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 09:10:42 AM
I'm not saying they should be forced.
Well if they're following protocal they really are
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 09:11:43 AM
I'm not saying they should be forced.
Then what are you saying? If you're saying they should be allowed to choose... well then... they are choosing.  I guess you don't agree with their choice, but I do.  This season has been a beating for them, and it's now over.  If they want to return home and see their family and friends, they should.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 21, 2020, 09:21:54 AM
I'm just now realizing that many of my fellow northerners have never seen Duke's mayo before.  I slowly made the transition after moving to Indiana.  Homemade is still best, but Duke's is good stuff.  We still end up w both Heilmans and Duke's in fridge.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 09:29:09 AM
Then what are you saying? If you're saying they should be allowed to choose... well then... they are choosing.  I guess you don't agree with their choice, but I do.  This season has been a beating for them, and it's now over.  If they want to return home and see their family and friends, they should.
I'm saying this:



I'm surprised so many teams are opting out of the bowl games. I get that this year is the worst ever, but I would think the kids would want to play and that the coaches would want the extra practice.



Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
I'm just now realizing that many of my fellow northerners have never seen Duke's mayo before.  I slowly made the transition after moving to Indiana.  Homemade is still best, but Duke's is good stuff.  We still end up w both Heilmans and Duke's in fridge.


Well, that seals the deal. I'm going to get some Duke's.

I also need Chile Crunch. I'm out.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 09:34:03 AM
I'm saying this:





OK, and I'm saying-- I'm not surprised at all.  This season has been a complete beating for the players.  Many of them are tired of it and would rather break free from the bubble and live their lives.  They don't see the point in continuing the exhausting rigor, just to play in a meaningless exhibition game.

And I don't blame them at all for that.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 09:35:50 AM
I don't blame them either. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 09:51:27 AM
I conquered Myrtle Beach a few times.
HA! 

The Ohio-MB thing always makes me laugh. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 09:57:03 AM
They are probably safer in the bubble??
This is true.

I can see both sides. Some are worn down, some are not. I saw Pitt, which was 6-5, opted out. It's weird because the SEC is forcing teams to go, so you have some back-filling. I need to chase down the participation numbers as to which leagues are sending bad teams and which have good ones staying home.

I hope Army becomes everyone's COVID backup. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 10:05:22 AM
HA!

The Ohio-MB thing always makes me laugh.

Yeah, I don't get it really. There are much closer beaches, and it isn't like there is some mega highway connecting the two places. In fact it is actually a pain in the arse to get to Myrtle Beach from Columbus. The only part that was interstate was the stretch across WV and west VA. The Ohio and Carolina routs were pseudo freeways that had long stretches with traffic lights and intersections instead of exits. You literally have to cross the entire state of NC this way, from the NW corner to the SE corner of that state. Not sure why folks didn't just go to Ocean City or Virginia Beach.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2020, 10:05:34 AM
I don't blame the kids.

I blame Coach Frost for allowing them to vote and make the decision for the team.

for teams that had a successful season and feel good about next season, that's fine.  The Huskers obviously need more practice and game reps for young players.

I know this was decades ago in a different time and world, but Osborne would have accepted a bowl invite and the extra practice that came with it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2020, 10:06:59 AM
I also need Chile Crunch.

But, I'm not a big mayo guy.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 21, 2020, 10:07:17 AM
With the bowl games upon us, it's not as much "extra practice" as in seasons past.  I'm giving the kids a break this year, they've earned it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 10:09:18 AM

Who is Cincydawg rooting for in the Cincy-Dawg game? :017:
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 21, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
I've never heard of Duke's Mayo, so I looked it up. I guess it's a thing down here. I'll buy some on my next shopping trip.
My wife is a Hellman's loyalist.  But we bought a jar of Duke's on our last trip to the grocery just to see if there's any significant difference.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 10:23:35 AM
I don't blame the kids.

I blame Coach Frost for allowing them to vote and make the decision for the team.

for teams that had a successful season and feel good about next season, that's fine.  The Huskers obviously need more practice and game reps for young players.

I know this was decades ago in a different time and world, but Osborne would have accepted a bowl invite and the extra practice that came with it.
Big Ten teams opting out makes less sense to me. 

Like ACC or SEC, you're at 10 games. Nebraska was only at 8. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 21, 2020, 10:24:34 AM
I remember driving into Myrtle Beach on the way to play golf nearby.

I was like, this is just like Wisconsin Dells,  except w Palmetto Trees .  I suppose the one distinction would be, MB seems stuck in time.  It has a late 80s early 90s vibe to in the building style and color schemes. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 21, 2020, 10:28:28 AM
Big Ten teams opting out makes less sense to me.

Like ACC or SEC, you're at 10 games. Nebraska was only at 8.
I think having your dick in your hand from Aug to midOctober is a contributing factor as well.    At some point the player has to feel like a hostage.   
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 10:39:43 AM
I remember driving into Myrtle Beach on the way to play golf nearby.

I was like, this is just like Wisconsin Dells,  except w Palmetto Trees .  I suppose the one distinction would be, MB seems stuck in time.  It has a late 80s early 90s vibe to in the building style and color schemes.
Does the Dells have the Pirates Voyage? And 125 miles of billboards for it? 

I THINK NOT!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 21, 2020, 10:42:39 AM
I've never heard of Duke's Mayo, so I looked it up. I guess it's a thing down here. I'll buy some on my next shopping trip.
I know Alton Brown is a big fan of it.
Yeah, I don't get it really. There are much closer beaches, and it isn't like there is some mega highway connecting the two places. In fact it is actually a pain in the arse to get to Myrtle Beach from Columbus. The only part that was interstate was the stretch across WV and west VA. The Ohio and Carolina routs were pseudo freeways that had long stretches with traffic lights and intersections instead of exits. You literally have to cross the entire state of NC this way, from the NW corner to the SE corner of that state. Not sure why folks didn't just go to Ocean City or Virginia Beach.
This confused the HELL out of me until I realized what you were trying to say lol...
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 21, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Does the Dells have the Pirates Voyage? And 125 miles of billboards for it?

I THINK NOT!
Speaking of billboards, does "South of the Border" still exist, with 125 miles of "Pedro" welcoming you to it?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 10:48:30 AM
Big Ten teams opting out makes less sense to me.

Like ACC or SEC, you're at 10 games. Nebraska was only at 8.
It's my understanding that they were still following quarantine regulations,so the lock up time is still the same
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 11:11:10 AM
It's my understanding that they were still following quarantine regulations,so the lock up time is still the same
That is fair. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 11:11:30 AM
Speaking of billboards, does "South of the Border" still exist, with 125 miles of "Pedro" welcoming you to it?
Yes. A weird place with some odd history. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 11:23:48 AM
 This confused the HELL out of me until I realized what you were trying to say lol...


Yes, I was playing off of the whole John Denver Country Roads thing there. Everyone and their grandma thinks that he wrote the song about WV (including WV University), but in reality it was about west VA, which contains all of the geographical features that he mentions in the lyrics. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2020, 11:40:14 AM
no one or their grandma thought those silly things in Iowa or nebraska
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 11:53:22 AM

Yes, I was playing off of the whole John Denver Country Roads thing there. Everyone and their grandma thinks that he wrote the song about WV (including WV University), but in reality it was about west VA, which contains all of the geographical features that he mentions in the lyrics.
Engine search turned up this

The song’s refrain mentions ‘West Virginia,’ but the opening lyrics refer to the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Shenandoah River, which are primarily located in Virginia. The Blue Ridge Mountains are traditionally defined as the easternmost flank of the Appalachian Mountain chain, running roughly north-south from Pennsylvania to Georgia. They pass through only a sliver of West Virginia (https://www.blueridgeoutdoors.com/sponsored-content/your-guide-to-summer-whitewater-in-southern-west-virginia/).

The Shenandoah River’s headwaters are near Front Royal, Virginia; from there the river flows northeast through Virginia’s Shenandoah Valley and ultimately into the Potomac River near Washington, D.C. Near the end of its 150-mile journey, the Shenandoah does cross the eastern panhandle of West Virginia for approximately 20 miles.
Based on the geographical references in the lyrics, many have argued that John Denver shortened “western Virginia” to “west Virginia” (lowercase ‘w’) because the extra syllable would have disrupted the cadence of the refrain.
West Virginia loyalists maintain that Denver meant exactly what he sang. Both the Shenandoah River and the Blue Ridge Mountains are part of West Virginia, and “Country Roads”
 has been adopted as West Virginia’s state song. Denver sang it at West Virginia University’s football stadium inauguration in 1980, and the WVU Marching Band performs it before every home game.


So as Deon Sanders says - Boff
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Yes, I know of that particular technicality, but I am not buying that John Denver wrote the song about the tiny little Eastern Panhandle of WV that is nestled between Maryland and Pennsylvania. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 12:43:46 PM
In fact I propose that if you attempted to play that song while driving around on those specific country roads, you'd be in a different state by the time the second verse got going. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 12:50:00 PM
Well Denver himself sang it when the Mountaineers opened their new stadium.Unfortunately he's not around to ask and prolly wouldn't want to hurt others feelings.....like you :D
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 21, 2020, 12:56:27 PM
Well Denver himself sang it when the Mountaineers opened their new stadium.Unfortunately he's not around to ask and prolly wouldn't want to hurt others feelings.....like you :D
If he'd have stuck to Mountain Roads we could ask him.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 21, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Who is Cincydawg rooting for in the Cincy-Dawg game? :017:
@Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) ?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 12:59:24 PM
If he'd have stuck to Mountain Roads we could ask him. 
Forget what happened did he have a heart attack while flying?
And he did write "Leaving on a Jet Plane"
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 01:40:48 PM
I don't blame the kids.

I blame Coach Frost for allowing them to vote and make the decision for the team.

for teams that had a successful season and feel good about next season, that's fine.  The Huskers obviously need more practice and game reps for young players.

I know this was decades ago in a different time and world, but Osborne would have accepted a bowl invite and the extra practice that came with it.
The odd thing here is that UNL was the most vocal of all the schools in wanting to play this year. What changed?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2020, 01:42:51 PM
Reality
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
The odd thing here is that UNL was the most vocal of all the schools in wanting to play this year. What changed?
Illinois and Minnesoota happened
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 21, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
Yes, I was playing off of the whole John Denver Country Roads thing there. Everyone and their grandma thinks that he wrote the song about WV (including WV University), but in reality it was about west VA, which contains all of the geographical features that he mentions in the lyrics.
I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

I've always wondered about the "Shenandoah River" part, as only the last few miles of the Shenandoah are in WV.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 21, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
Illinois and Minnesoota happened
Well if the league carried its weight,  they'd play the full season and they still wouldn't be bowl eligible. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 21, 2020, 05:57:41 PM
I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

I've always wondered about the "Shenandoah River" part, as only the last few miles of the Shenandoah are in WV.
Per The Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge, it's about West Virginia.

Quote
"Take Me Home, Country Roads", also known simply as "Take Me Home" or "Country Roads", is a song written by Bill Danoff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Danoff), Taffy Nivert (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taffy_Nivert) and John Denver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Denver) about West Virginia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia). It was released as a single performed by Denver on April 12, 1971, peaking at number two on Billboard's US Hot 100 singles for the week ending August 28, 1971. The song was a success on its initial release and was certified Gold by the RIAA on August 18, 1971, and Platinum on April 10, 2017.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Home,_Country_Roads#cite_note-United_StatesJohn_DenverTake_Me_Home,_Country_RoadsingleCertRef-2) The song became one of John Denver's most popular and beloved songs. It has continued to sell, with over 1.6 million digital copies sold in the United States.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Home,_Country_Roads#cite_note-roughstock_sales-3) It is considered to be Denver's signature song (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_song).[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Home,_Country_Roads#cite_note-Unplug-4)

The song has a prominent status as an iconic symbol of West Virginia, which it describes as "Almost Heaven". In March 2014, it became one of the four official state anthems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_songs#State_songs) of West Virginia.

This reminds me of a late afternoon-early evening at Fort Benning, GA, in the summer of 1979.  There was an outdoor bluegrass festival on the side of a hill--with the stage at the bottom--out on what must have been a seldom-used part of the training area.  Maybe the advertising campaign was a failure, but only 20-30 people showed up to watch.  SO the bands would get up and do their thing to a smattering of applause.  There was a drunk down front by the stage who would shout to each group to "play that Almost Heaven West Virginia song!"  I can't remember if any of them ever did.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 07:13:46 PM
Illinois and Minnesoota happened


Well yeah, but that was before the unexpected upset of the Scarlette Knights. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 21, 2020, 08:21:02 PM
Appy State with the 56-28 win. Man, wonder what a game with Michigan would look like this year?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 08:23:25 PM


Probably worse than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCALXZjVVmA&ab_channel=BigTenNetwork
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 21, 2020, 08:29:12 PM
Ha I forgot Thom Brennaman was on the call. Maybe Ann Arbor was the *** capital of the world
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 21, 2020, 08:47:22 PM
Iowa has covid issues, pausing program
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2020, 09:22:30 PM
bummer
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 21, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Army replacing Tennessee in the liberty bowl against West Virginia
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 21, 2020, 10:27:10 PM

Yes, I was playing off of the whole John Denver Country Roads thing there. Everyone and their grandma thinks that he wrote the song about WV (including WV University), but in reality it was about west VA, which contains all of the geographical features that he mentions in the lyrics.
Whatever.  It’s ours now.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 21, 2020, 10:27:52 PM
Army replacing Tennessee in the liberty bowl against West Virginia
I’d rather play Army anyway.  Tennessee can take their 3-7 record and stay home.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 21, 2020, 10:42:54 PM
Whatever.  It’s ours now.


But you guys already have The Green Rolling Hills of West Virginia.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ZREMUTHZ8&ab_channel=UtahPhillips-Topic
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 21, 2020, 11:07:20 PM
I’d rather play Army anyway.  Tennessee can take their 3-7 record and stay home.
This is not a good vintage of Army, but I'd rather them than a Vols team that probably wants no part of it 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 22, 2020, 08:09:31 AM
Today's slate

Idaho Potato Bowl
3:30, ESPN
Tulane v. Nevada

A tale of two seasons for these teams.  Nevada started the season 5-0 before a couple tough losses to finish 6-2. Tulane started off 2-4 before rebounding with some strong wins and their only loss being a double overtime one to Tulsa.  Might be a fun game - Nevada loves to throw and Tulane is just ok against the pass.  Tulane has been the better team (47th on FEI v. 72 for Nevada) but it's supposed to be chilly in Boise, so let's see how the Louisiana team handles that.

Boca Raton Bowl
7 pm, ESPN
UCF v. BYU

Hell yeah this is more like it.  These are two good teams (UCF 26th on FEI, BYU is 4th!).  BYU is led by probable first round draft pick QB Zach Wilson, and has flattened most of the teams they've played, with Coastal Carolina as the one glaring but very fun exception.  UCF has been pretty strong offensively too, with all three of their losses being very close high scoring affairs.  The over/under in this game is 70.5, so no on expects a defensive slugfest.  Get out your adding machines, as Brent Musberger would say.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 22, 2020, 08:34:02 AM
The Boca Raton Bowl?That just smacks of Holiday Tradition,rather resurrect the Astro Blue Bonnett Bowl
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on December 22, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
Yes, I know of that particular technicality, but I am not buying that John Denver wrote the song about the tiny little Eastern Panhandle of WV that is nestled between Maryland and Pennsylvania.
I call B.S.

The geographic features are in both Virginia states and Maryland. The writer of the song (Bill Danoffcame up with most of the lyrics while driving winding roads in Maryland. He changed adjusted Maryland to West Virginia to help the song have a better ring. And again the features mentioned are large and winding and in multiple states. 

Source: https://www.wideopencountry.com/john-denver-take-me-home-country-roads-this-state/
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 08:57:08 AM
I call B.S.

The geographic features are in both Virginia states and Maryland. The writer of the song (Bill Danoff) came up with most of the lyrics while driving winding roads in Maryland. He changed adjusted Maryland to West Virginia to help the song have a better ring. And again the features mentioned are large and winding and in multiple states.

Source: https://www.wideopencountry.com/john-denver-take-me-home-country-roads-this-state/


Oh. So it was about Neither West Virginia nor west Virginia. It was actually about Maryland, with some creative liberty liberally applied. 

Damn Coloradoans.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 09:10:11 AM


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGDAioQXoAY5E3M.jpg)


(https://wmblogs.wm.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DT15Fig5.jpg)

(https://i.redd.it/t1o3noqq0j021.png)


(https://www.harrisonburgva.gov/sites/default/files/CleanStream/images/Map.PNG)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 22, 2020, 09:40:40 AM
It’s our song. Don’t care.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 09:55:51 AM
I’d rather play Army anyway.  Tennessee can take their 3-7 record and stay home.
hey, at least Army wanted to play
They might bring their "A" game
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 10:57:06 AM
The Boca Raton Bowl?That just smacks of Holiday Tradition,rather resurrect the Astro Blue Bonnett Bowl
The cover story for why Houston's bowl game is the creatively named Texas Bowl rather than the Bluebonnet Bowl is that the organizing committee for the Bluebonnet folded up owing money to everyone and his dog, and therefore any organization that tried to resurrect the old name would inherit the debts.
I don't know that I buy that.
I think it's more likely that the Houston PTB figured that "Bluebonnet" just didn't sound "Texas" enough.  So, what could be more "Texas" than "Texas"?
BTW, if you've ever been in the middle of a field of bluebonnets in bloom, you'll not forget it.  It's a beautiful sight.
In 1990, waiting to go on the aerial gunnery range at Fort Hood, we sat down in a field of bluebonnets.  Really cool!
Bring back the Bluebonnet Bowl!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 10:59:29 AM
The cover story for why Houston's bowl game is the creatively named Texas Bowl rather than the Bluebonnet Bowl is that the organizing committee for the Bluebonnet folded up owing money to everyone and his dog, and therefore any organization that tried to resurrect the old name would inherit the debts.
I don't know that I buy that.
I think it's more likely that the Houston PTB figured that "Bluebonnet" just didn't sound "Texas" enough.  So, what could be more "Texas" than "Texas"?
BTW, if you've ever been in the middle of a field of bluebonnets in bloom, you'll not forget it.  It's a beautiful sight.
In 1990, waiting to go on the aerial gunnery range at Fort Hood, we sat down in a field of bluebonnets.  Really cool!
Bring back the Bluebonnet Bowl!

Bluebonnets are extremely Texas-y, so I don't think that's it.

I think they probably just didn't think it "manly" enough.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 11:03:16 AM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGDAioQXoAY5E3M.jpg)


(https://wmblogs.wm.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DT15Fig5.jpg)

(https://i.redd.it/t1o3noqq0j021.png)


(https://www.harrisonburgva.gov/sites/default/files/CleanStream/images/Map.PNG)
The problem with that is that the area indicated is north (or northern) Virginia, not western Virginia.
I think the song was intended to refer to West Virginia, even though the geographical description would be better for the northern part of Virginia.
But whoever insists that songs have to be factually correct?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
Bluebonnets are extremely Texas-y, so I don't think that's it.

I think they probably just didn't think it "manly" enough.
Maybe so.  The other Texas bowl games have "manly" names.  Cotton picking is man's work.  Working on the Frisco railroad was man's work.  Being in the Armed Forces was man's work once upon a time.  First Responders are manly men, even when they are women.
But I wonder if kids today--outside of Texas--even know what bluebonnets are.
They grow up with some amazing gaps in their knowledge.
They know the cheat codes for every video game and they know how to hack into porn sites.
But ask them what continent contains the Mississippi River and they look at you like it's a trick question.
Maybe they don't know what bluebonnets are, or what connection they have to Texas.
And, as the explanation for hideous uniforms has it, it's all about pleasing the kids.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 11:19:24 AM
I don't think kids find any particular connection to the names "Orange Bowl" or "Citrus Bowl" or even "Rose Bowl."

Perhaps they may find some connection to the "Fiesta Bowl" since that literally means "Party Bowl" but beyond that, I don't think the kids care much at all about what the bowls are named.

They care about the swag bags, and that's probably about it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 11:29:49 AM
The problem with that is that the area indicated is north (or northern) Virginia, not western Virginia.
I think the song was intended to refer to West Virginia, even though the geographical description would be better for the northern part of Virginia.
But whoever insists that songs have to be factually correct?


The Blueridge Mountains literally run the full length of the state, from North to South and everywhere in between, and it does this along the western border of the state just east of West Virginia. 

Now Virginians may refer to their regions with some geographic liberty by which only the panhandle constitutes west Virginia, while the much taller western border that is located north of the panhandle is all just lumped in as north Virginia, but John Denver being a Coloradoan would not be privy to the local clichés. 

With all that being said, it is clear that the Blueridge Mountains cross the east end of the panhandle. If that isn't western Virginia, then nothing is. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 11:31:26 AM
Probably so.  I was overthinking it.

So, bring back the Bluebonnet Bowl!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
my brother had a family picture taken in a field of Bluebonnets

I've played Bluebonnet Hill golf course.  Didn't notice many bluebonnets, but was in JAnuary or February

The Huskers played in the Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl in 76.  Had a come from behind victory over the Red Raiders.  This helped them finish 9-3-1

Osborne was told after the game from a regent, that if he had lost that game he would have been fired.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 22, 2020, 11:42:03 AM
Maybe so.  The other Texas bowl games have "manly" names.  Cotton picking is man's work.  Working on the Frisco railroad was man's work.  Being in the Armed Forces was man's work once upon a time.  First Responders are manly men, even when they are women.
But I wonder if kids today--outside of Texas--even know what bluebonnets are.
They grow up with some amazing gaps in their knowledge.
They know the cheat codes for every video game and they know how to hack into porn sites.
But ask them what continent contains the Mississippi River and they look at you like it's a trick question.
Maybe they don't know what bluebonnets are, or what connection they have to Texas.
And, as the explanation for hideous uniforms has it, it's all about pleasing the kids.
Hell, I had no clue what bluebonnets are. I only knew it was an ice cream brand.

I guess I'll have to study up on my Texas-ness if I'm gonna move to Austin. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
oh, don't worry, there are plenty of Texans that will educate you once you move in

just ask them about ANY subject
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 22, 2020, 12:46:53 PM
WVU paddled TCU’s butt in the 84 Bluebonnet Bowl.  They broke out special jerseys with the players’ names on the back which they normally didn’t do back then.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 12:56:43 PM
oh, don't worry, there are plenty of Texans that will educate you once you move in

just ask them about ANY subject
Yup, Texans are horrible and obnoxious and overbearing and also overly wordy know-it-alls.  You'd hate interacting with them.  So don't move here.

Thank You For Your Support
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 12:58:35 PM
Bluebonnets are, of course, the state flower of Texas.  They bloom in March/April, so everyone takes their Easter pictures amidst a field of bluebonnets.  

(https://i.imgur.com/Sp9F4aC.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
The ice cream, on the other hand, is "Blue Bell." Not "Bluebonnet."

(https://i.imgur.com/MXRjDuM.jpg)

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 22, 2020, 01:02:16 PM
WVU paddled TCU’s butt in the 84 Bluebonnet Bowl.  They broke out special jerseys with the players’ names on the back which they normally didn’t do back then. 
Halfway through reading this, I thought you were going to explain the specific kind of paddles they broke out. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 22, 2020, 01:08:57 PM
Yup, Texans are horrible and obnoxious and overbearing and also overly wordy know-it-alls.  You'd hate interacting with them.  So don't move here.

Thank You For Your Support
Sounds like I'd fit in.

The ice cream, on the other hand, is "Blue Bell." Not "Bluebonnet."

(https://i.imgur.com/MXRjDuM.jpg)


Ahh. Then I knew even less about bluebonnets than I thought I knew, which was nothing. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 22, 2020, 01:29:49 PM
Halfway through reading this, I thought you were going to explain the specific kind of paddles they broke out.
That would have made for a better post.  “They broke out individual paddles with the name of a TCU player on each one.”  That would be pretty bad ass.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 22, 2020, 01:47:38 PM
INGREDIENTS
FOR THE AROMATICS
FOR THE SPICES
FOR THE MEAT
FOR THE VEGGIES



Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 22, 2020, 02:00:07 PM
That ice cream is going to taste terrible, CDawg.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2020, 02:10:16 PM
The ice cream, on the other hand, is "Blue Bell." Not "Bluebonnet."




I'm familiar with Blue Bunny.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
Blue Bunny ice cream is made 30 miles north of me.

Wells is the second largest ice cream maker in the United States

Near one of the greatest steakhouses in the nation

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2020, 02:22:08 PM
Yeah, but I think Bluebonnet used to distribute it?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 02:22:48 PM
speaking of other things called Blue Bunny..............

Blue Peacock, renamed from Blue Bunny and originally Brown Bunny, was a British tactical nuclear weapon project in the 1950s.

The project's goal was to store a number of ten-kiloton nuclear mines in Germany, to be placed on the North German Plain and, in the event of Soviet invasion from the east, detonated by wire or an eight-day timer in order to "... not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but ... deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination ..


The design was based on the free-falling Blue Danube, but the Blue Peacock weighed 7.2 long tons (16,000 lb). There would be two firing units: the casing and the warhead. Its steel casing was so large that it had to be tested outdoors in a flooded gravel pit near Sevenoaks in Kent. Since the bomb would be unattended, anti-tamper devices were also used. The casing was pressurized, and pressure and tilt switches were added. There were three different ways that the bomb could be detonated: a wire located three miles away, an eight-day timer, or anti-tampering devices. Once armed, Blue Peacock would detonate 10 seconds after being moved, if the casing lost pressure, or if it was filled with water.

The project was developed at the Royal Armament Research and Development Establishment (RARDE) at Fort Halstead in Kent in 1954.

In July 1957 the British Army ordered ten Blue Peacocks for use in Germany, under the cover story that they were atomic power units for troops in the field. In the end, though, the Ministry of Defence cancelled the project in February 1958. It was judged that the risks posed by the nuclear fallout and the political aspects of preparing for destruction and contamination of allied territory were too high to justify.


One technical problem was that during winter buried objects can get very cold, and it was possible the mine’s electronics would get too cold to work after some days underground. Various methods to get around this were studied, such as wrapping the bombs in insulating blankets. One particularly remarkable proposal suggested that live chickens be included in the mechanism. The chickens would be sealed inside the casing, with a supply of food and water; they would remain alive for a week or so. Their body heat would, it seems, have been sufficient to keep the mine's components at a working temperature.

This proposal was sufficiently outlandish that it was taken as an April Fool's Day joke when the Blue Peacock file was declassified on 1 April 2004. Tom O'Leary, head of education and interpretation at the National Archives, replied to the media that, "It does seem like an April Fool but it most certainly is not. The Civil Service does not do jokes." This is supported by the fact that Tom O'Leary has been shown to have worked for the United Kingdom National Archives by multiple sources on the Museums and the Web 2002 conference website and a LinkedIn Page regarding his work at the National Archives as Education Officer/Head of Online Services and Education from February, 1998–October, 2007.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 02:29:44 PM
Yeah, but I think Bluebonnet used to distribute it?
maybe Blue Bell, but I don't think so

the history..........

Fred H. Wells Jr. opened a milk route in 1913 in Le Mars after purchasing a horse, delivery wagon, and a few cans and jars for $250 from local dairy farmer Ray Bowers.

Around 1925, Wells and his sons began manufacturing ice cream and selling it in neighboring Iowa towns: Remsen, Alton and Sioux City. In 1928 Fairmont Ice Cream purchased the ice cream distribution system in Sioux City along with the right to use the Wells name.

In 1935, the Wells family decided to sell ice cream in Sioux City again. Unable to sell their product under their own name "Wells", they decided to hold a “Name That Ice Cream” contest in the Sioux City Journal. A Sioux City man won the $25 cash prize for the winning entry of “Blue Bunny” after noticing how much his son enjoyed the blue bunnies in a department store window at Easter.

After Fred H. Wells, Jr. died in 1954, his sons, Harold, Mike, Roy and Fay, and their cousin Fred D. Wells, son of Harry Cole Wells, ran the family business as a partnership. Meanwhile, new facilities were added in the postwar period. For example, the main part of the company, the North Plant, was built in Le Mars in the 1950s for the manufacture of ice cream products. In 1963, the company constructed its Milk Plant. The family retained ownership and management of the business after it was incorporated under Iowa law in 1977 as Wells' Dairy, Inc.

Blue Bell History.................

Blue Bell Creameries is an American food company that manufactures ice cream. It was founded in 1907 in Brenham, Texas. For much of its early history, the company manufactured both ice cream and butter locally. In the mid-20th century, it abandoned butter production and expanded to the entire state of Texas and soon much of the Southern United States. The company's corporate headquarters are located at the "Little Creamery" in Brenham, Texas.[5] Since 1919, it has been in the hands of the Kruse family. As of 2015, Blue Bell is the number three selling ice cream manufacturer in the United States.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 22, 2020, 02:37:50 PM
The project's goal was to store a number of ten-kiloton nuclear mines in Germany, to be placed on the North German Plain and, in the event of Soviet invasion from the east, detonated by wire or an eight-day timer in order to "... not only destroy facilities and installations over a large area, but ... deny occupation of the area to an enemy for an appreciable time due to contamination ..
They built a Doomsday Device?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozg7gEchjuM
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
INGREDIENTS
FOR THE SPICES
  • 5 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce (75 ml)
  • 1 tablespoon ground allspice
  • 2 ½ teaspoons salt
  • 2 ½ teaspoons liquid smoke
  • 2 teaspoons hot sauce, like Tabasco
  • 1 ½ teaspoons freshly ground black pepper
  • 1 ½ cup Carolina vinegar style tangy BBQ sauce, like Heinz (354 ml)
  • 1 ½ cup Carolina mustard style BBQ sauce, like Heinz (354 ml)
I'm not eating this green sauce.............


(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t45.1600-4/cp0/q75/spS444/p526x296/131046832_23846175163060679_7847373826739176690_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&cb=846ca55b-311e05c7&ccb=2&_nc_sid=7e83b1&_nc_ohc=3tyfhBAMK3kAX_0LST6&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=b4cc66a5fd61b4bad622595aea0a7efb&oe=6008BE6D)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 04:33:59 PM

The Blueridge Mountains literally run the full length of the state, from North to South and everywhere in between, and it does this along the western border of the state just east of West Virginia.

Now Virginians may refer to their regions with some geographic liberty by which only the panhandle constitutes west Virginia, while the much taller western border that is located north of the panhandle is all just lumped in as north Virginia, but John Denver being a Coloradoan would not be privy to the local clichés.

With all that being said, it is clear that the Blueridge Mountains cross the east end of the panhandle. If that isn't western Virginia, then nothing is.
On the maps you posted, there's a lot of Virginia west of the Blue Ridge.  Even moreso when you consider the Shenandoah River.
Neither of us seems to know what Virginians say about all of this, or what they call the west-of-the-Blue Ridge part of the state, or what part of the state they consider the Shenandoah River to be located in.
I think I know the answer to the last one, though.  It's in the Shenandoah Valley.
"Shenandoah" is probably my favorite Native-American-language place-names.
"Susquehanna" is another great one.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 04:43:59 PM
Hell, I had no clue what bluebonnets are. I only knew it was an ice cream brand.

I guess I'll have to study up on my Texas-ness if I'm gonna move to Austin.
(https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F28%2F2016%2F03%2FTexas-Bluebonnets-Spring-15-TXBLOOMS0316.jpg)

That's probably not Fort Hood, but there is similar terrain there, and that's how the bluebonnets looked from the cockpit of an AH-64.  As I remember it, we were in a smaller field, though.  A former small-arms range, I suspect, as there were berms on three sides and a road on the fourth.
That could be a berm covered in bluebonnets running from an inch below the upper-left corner across the image to an inch-and-a-half below the upper-right corner.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2020, 04:45:01 PM

"Shenandoah" is probably my favorite Native-American-language place-names.

"Susquehanna" is another great one.
Enjoy them while you can, before they get canceled. :67:


My favorite is Snoqualmie Falls.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 04:49:15 PM
I'm familiar with Blue Bunny.
Same here.

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e47fd564-d231-4ed0-91c2-861b90a46ee2_1.1679282f2659c112750a1d3c08d02fd1.png?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
And then there is this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHk8dI6WsAAtJJZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
WTH is that???
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 22, 2020, 04:53:11 PM
Never heard of Bluebonnet.  Looks like they're an ice cream distributor, and they have (at least at some point) distributed Blue Bunny ice cream (which I'd also never heard of).

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 05:03:22 PM
BlueBonnet DSD Inc. a wholesale distributor, was established in 2002 in Irving, Texas. From the start, BlueBonnet DSD Inc. was committed to providing high quality product at bargain wholesale prices that lead to high profit margins for our customers. We are proud to service two of Texas’ largest markets in North East and South Central Texas.

In these regions, BlueBonnet services over 6,000 accounts consisting of Independent Establishments, Local Chains, National Chains, and many prominent Associations. Our Direct Store Distribution (DSD) customer service cannot compare to any other. Our Account Managers and Sales Merchandisers are setting the standard of service through their knowledge of the industry, attentiveness, friendliness and helpfulness. Customer satisfaction is our guarantee because our customers are our #1 priority!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 05:08:13 PM
Enjoy them while you can, before they get canceled. :67:


My favorite is Snoqualmie Falls.
Snoqualmie?  That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue the way Shenandoah does.
I think we've got better ones than that in Oklahoma: Washita, Oologah, Owasso, Tahlequah, Talihina, Talala, Sapulpa, Eufaula.  And, of course, Oklahoma itself, from Choctaw words meaning "red man."
Kansas has Pottawatomie and Osawatomie.
Tulsa (OK), Tallassee (AL) and Talahassee (FL) all come from the same Creek word "talasi," meaning "old town."
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 05:24:41 PM
On the maps you posted, there's a lot of Virginia west of the Blue Ridge.  Even moreso when you consider the Shenandoah River.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/4a215c9d0e1a249e8419bf4c49e46d46/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 05:27:04 PM


Clearly everything west of the easternmost point of West Virginia is western Virginia. 

Otherwise West Virginia would be called North Virginia. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 22, 2020, 05:30:19 PM
That ice cream is going to taste terrible, CDawg.
Doubt it would melt though,prolly liquify
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 22, 2020, 05:30:44 PM
This song was written over a century ago when the whole state was West Virginia.  Then, in the Civil War, Virginia, the eastern portion, seceded from West Virginia.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 05:32:41 PM
Iowa also has Pottawatomie
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 22, 2020, 05:41:50 PM
Same here.

(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e47fd564-d231-4ed0-91c2-861b90a46ee2_1.1679282f2659c112750a1d3c08d02fd1.png?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
And then there is this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHk8dI6WsAAtJJZ.jpg)
Sure you guys aren't thinking of this

(https://i.imgur.com/Y516bl7.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
I like Pabst.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 22, 2020, 05:57:35 PM
Snoqualmie?  That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue the way Shenandoah does.
Our tongues are different??
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 22, 2020, 06:05:18 PM
I'll bet they are if ya like PBR
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 22, 2020, 06:49:54 PM
If they're out of PBR they can always fall back on Bud Fat
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 09:11:26 PM

Clearly everything west of the easternmost point of West Virginia is western Virginia.

Otherwise West Virginia would be called North Virginia.
Heh!  Not clearly at all.  Names don't have to reflect reality.
In the Russian Communist Party before the October Revolution, the minority faction was called "Bolshevik," meaning "majority."  The majority faction was called "Menshevik," meaning "minority."
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 09:12:46 PM
This song was written over a century ago when the whole state was West Virginia.  Then, in the Civil War, Virginia, the eastern portion, seceded from West Virginia.
I hear that's how it went on Earth II.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 22, 2020, 09:22:59 PM
Heh!  Not clearly at all.  Names don't have to reflect reality.
In the Russian Communist Party before the October Revolution, the minority faction was called "Bolshevik," meaning "majority."  The majority faction was called "Menshevik," meaning "minority."


Yeah, and Virginia extends farther west than does West Virginia. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/dWd0fw2gYjqff4YkJCDXbEVH9VgFc3Da5kxDRHJO1qKJ4JCW6mAnpLDNFXyc2wd0FJm4ct-yvAJDR0tpzQ27S38gc_QGPbLJZLXRVU1dZvL84g)


Nevertheless, calling a mountain chain that runs north and south along the entire length of western border of the state anything other than the western part of the state is asinine. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 09:29:00 PM

Yeah, and Virginia extends farther west than does West Virginia.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/dWd0fw2gYjqff4YkJCDXbEVH9VgFc3Da5kxDRHJO1qKJ4JCW6mAnpLDNFXyc2wd0FJm4ct-yvAJDR0tpzQ27S38gc_QGPbLJZLXRVU1dZvL84g)


Nevertheless, calling a mountain chain that runs north and south along the entire length of western border of the state anything other than the western part of the state is asinine.
Yes, it would be asinine.  Just as calling a mountain chain that by the maps you furnished does not touch the far western border of the state "running along the entire length of the western border" of said state would be asinine.

But keep on saying it does.  That's fine.
But while you're at it, find out if anyone calls western Virginia "west Virginia."

And tell the citizens of West Virginia that their state name is asinine.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Check this out.

(https://i.imgur.com/cV6FamY.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 22, 2020, 09:35:25 PM
BYU putting UCF in a pine box
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 09:57:37 PM
In 'The Victors' song, one used to take issue with "champions of the west," but now I think most of us would take issue with the "champions" aspect, lol.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 09:59:15 PM
Heh!  Not clearly at all.  Names don't have to reflect reality.
In the Russian Communist Party before the October Revolution, the minority faction was called "Bolshevik," meaning "majority."  The majority faction was called "Menshevik," meaning "minority."
Every evil, radical far-right money laundering fund-raising group has some sort of positive, pro-American name.  And it's ALL bullshit.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 22, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
Yes, it would be asinine.  Just as calling a mountain chain that by the maps you furnished does not touch the far western border of the state "running along the entire length of the western border" of said state would be asinine.

But keep on saying it does.  That's fine.
But while you're at it, find out if anyone calls western Virginia "west Virginia."


Are you kidding?  The running joke among West Virginians is when you tell someone you are from West Virginia their typical response is, “Oh, like around Richmond?”
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 11:37:39 PM
BYU putting UCF in a pine box
It should be called the "Del Boca Vista" Bowl
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 23, 2020, 12:40:12 AM
Are you kidding?  The running joke among West Virginians is when you tell someone you are from West Virginia their typical response is, “Oh, like around Richmond?”


No kidding. Every East Coast state treats their largest coastal city as though it is the center of the state. 

That's why West Point, Syracuse and Buffalo are all lumped together as "upstate NY." 

Anything anywhere near WV would be considered the extreme western part of the state. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 23, 2020, 12:45:20 AM
Check this out.

(https://i.imgur.com/cV6FamY.png)

So your argument is the only thing that constitutes western Virginia is the part out by Kentucky that is west of WV? That's your argument? If that were the case, then WV would be NV or even EV. 


But while you're at it, find out if anyone calls western Virginia "west Virginia."

Already did. John Denver calls western Virginia west Virginia. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 08:24:50 AM
Four provinces of the Appalachian Mountain system can be found in West Virginia: The Blue Ridge, the Allegheny Plateau, the Allegheny Mountains, the Cumberland Mountains, and the Ridge and Valley Appalachians.As stated before I think Denver knew what he was singing about.Prolly  the region in General.Now go have some eggnog and stop your pointless bitchery
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 23, 2020, 08:34:16 AM
This thread got kinda shitty.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 23, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
This thread got kinda shitty.
West Virginia talk not going away...
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 08:44:34 AM
Almost Heaven!!!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 23, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
Two games today

New Orleans Bowl
3 pm, ESPN
Louisiana Tech v. Georgia Southern

Not exactly the most interesting set of teams, (Southern is 65th on F+ and Tech is 110th :().  But Southern likes to run a lot of option football, so that can always be interesting to watch.  Unfortunately, they are also having QB health issues so who knows what they will look like.  Meh.

Montgomery Bowl
7 pm, ESPN
Florida Atlantic v. Memphis

Willie Taggart returns to the postseason with FAU, facing a Memphis team that squeaked out a lot of wins to get to 7-3.  Memphis is 64th on F+ and FAU is 90th.  The most fun thing about this game is it may be the only one ever.  The bowl game was originally going to be the Fenway Bowl to be played at Fenway Park in Boston,  but COVID derailed that plan, so the Fenway Bowl will debut next year, and the Montgomery Bowl may be long lost.   
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 23, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Man, even I cannot feign any interest in either of those. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 23, 2020, 12:28:31 PM
Luckily we do get some afternoon basketball at 4:30 as the Buckeyes take on Rutgers
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on December 23, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Not great games, but it's better than NOT having football to watch, so I'm good.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 23, 2020, 12:33:18 PM
Two games today

New Orleans Bowl
3 pm, ESPN
Louisiana Tech v. Georgia Southern

Not exactly the most interesting set of teams, (Southern is 65th on F+ and Tech is 110th :().  But Southern likes to run a lot of option football, so that can always be interesting to watch.  Unfortunately, they are also having QB health issues so who knows what they will look like.  Meh.

Montgomery Bowl
7 pm, ESPN
Florida Atlantic v. Memphis

Willie Taggart returns to the postseason with FAU, facing a Memphis team that squeaked out a lot of wins to get to 7-3.  Memphis is 64th on F+ and FAU is 90th.  The most fun thing about this game is it may be the only one ever.  The bowl game was originally going to be the Fenway Bowl to be played at Fenway Park in Boston,  but COVID derailed that plan, so the Fenway Bowl will debut next year, and the Montgomery Bowl may be long lost. 
Hmmmm. 

Southern option ball, I'll always take. Tech is odd because they've usually carved out a solid living with occasionally strong defenses and often high-powered offenses. They don't appear to be that year (the only thing they do well is prevent explosive plays), though their QB can be efficient in some ways. 

Memphis is explosive on offense and carved out a better record than the way it played. FAU is good on D, bad and boring on O. Not sure I'll watch, though I have almost nothing to do tonight, so perhaps it'll be on. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 12:39:10 PM
Not great games, but it's better than NOT having football to watch, so I'm good.
Like not having snow for Christmas
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 23, 2020, 12:40:30 PM
Yeah, I got a little sidetracked on my description of the route form Columbus to Myrtle Beach. My bad. 

At any rate, the only part of that trek that was Interstate was the part that ran through West Virginia and the portion of northern Virginia that is located directly south of WV, near Virginia Tech and ODU. 

Stayed at Pipestem both ways. Pipestem rules, btw. 

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/fd/c4/02fdc43aa0b3678b7b73717877101c8b.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 23, 2020, 01:02:49 PM
Yeah, I got a little sidetracked on my description of the route form Columbus to Myrtle Beach. My bad.

At any rate, the only part of that trek that was Interstate was the part that ran through West Virginia and the portion of northern Virginia that is located directly south of WV, near Virginia Tech and ODU.

Stayed at Pipestem both ways. Pipestem rules, btw.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/fd/c4/02fdc43aa0b3678b7b73717877101c8b.jpg)
If you are in that area again you might want to consider Mountain Lake Lodge.  It is about an hour away in Pembroke, VA right on the Appalachian Trail.  I stayed there one night of a weekend trip to hike the trail.  It is where Dirty Dancing was filmed, very scenic.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 01:08:17 PM
Hey nobody puts BB in a corner
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 23, 2020, 03:40:25 PM
Man, even I cannot feign any interest in either of those.

I have my annual bowl bet with my brother - it's for lunch

Tulane hurt me yesterday so to even things up I need a Georgia Southern win
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bamajoe on December 23, 2020, 04:20:39 PM
I stayed at Pipestem a couple years ago. I have family in Parkersburg and met them at Pipestem. Neat place.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 23, 2020, 06:55:03 PM
No kidding. Every East Coast state treats their largest coastal city as though it is the center of the state.
Not quite every state, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina?, Virginia?  I guess you could claim they don't have a large coastal city?  Savannah is a fair size as is Norfolks.

Savannah of course was the first city in GA.  Atlanta had a population in 1860 of about 10,000, they did some urban clearing, and in 1870 the population was 20,000.  We have those historic markers every around me and it is all some regiment moving north, or south or whatever.  I try and imagine it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 07:06:36 PM
Uncle Billy wouldn't recognize the place
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 23, 2020, 07:09:45 PM
I used to drive from Cincy to Raleigh, NC to see the in laws.  Back in the day, the WV Turnpike was both TOLL AND TWO LANES!!!!

I-75 wasn't finished on Jellico Mountain yet, so that route was not very good.  That was a long drive with 55 mph speed limits.  What a droll idea that was.

No GPS either.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 23, 2020, 07:11:37 PM
On top of Jellico Mountain off I-75, some developer decided to construct a retirement community, from nothing.  The TN DoT built a fancy bridge and interchange to access the site.  I stopped once at the sales center to have a look.

Not a single house was every built, not one, "Rarity Mountain" it was called.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 23, 2020, 07:13:09 PM
I used to drive from Cincy to Raleigh, NC to see the in laws.  Back in the day, the WV Turnpike was both TOLL AND TWO LANES!!!!

I-75 wasn't finished on Jellico Mountain yet, so that route was not very good.  That was a long drive with 55 mph speed limits.  What a droll idea that was.

No GPS either.
Somewhere Lewis and Clark are snickering
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 23, 2020, 08:51:10 PM
Almost Heaven!!!
One of only two times I've been there it was almost Heaven upon arrival.
I was the front-seater in the ferry flight of a brand-new AH-64 from the McDonnell-Douglas Helicopters plant in Mesa, AZ, to Andrews AFB, MD, to be put on a C-5 and flown to Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Shield.
We had terrible weather the whole way, and we ultimately got into Andrews about 6 hours too late for the Apache to be loaded on the C-5 on which it was supposed to be shipped.
The St. Louis-to-Wheeling, WV, day was typical, but the worst at the end.  We couldn't get out of St. Louis (Lambert Field) until noon because along with very low ceiling and very little visibility it was raining.  After maybe an hour of following I-64 at low level, the clouds lifted enough for us to fly normal VFR to Louisville.  We landed at some airport not named Louisville International--Clark Regional, I think--and parked the helicopter to be refueled.  The FBO had a very cute female driver who took us to a cheap steakhouse (Bonanza? Western Sizzlin'?) for dinner.  Back at the airport we took off for Morgantown.  And the weather got bad again, as the ceiling got lower and lower.  Ahead of us, a gap in the mountains opened up--we swore at the time that it must be the Cumberland Gap, but I don't think that was it--and we flew through it.  Now it started to get dark, and by the time we neared Wheeling, it was dark.  We crossed the Ohio River, flew up the ridgeline to Wheeling-Ohio County Airport, right under the clouds, and landed, got out and thanked our lucky stars (which we could not see).  The FBO drove us into town and picked us up the next morning.
The next day was another weather-problem day, along with the Morgantown NDB being out of service but not on the NOTAMS sheet we checked, and with Baltimore Approach asking us our location when we were in the clouds on radar guidance, and the NDB at Fort Meade, MD, being out of service, but we got into Andrews OK, albeit too late for our bird to be loaded as planned.
Getting in to Wheeling was the biggest relief we had on the whole trip.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 24, 2020, 08:03:50 AM
People pay good money to get the shit scared out of them like that - lucky Dog
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 24, 2020, 10:17:01 AM
Uncle Billy wouldn't recognize the place
My 2Great Grandfather was in "Uncle Billy's" Army when it burned Atlanta then his unit got dethatched and sent North.  When the war ended he was in Eastern Tennessee.  

He was wounded outside of Atlanta and I went to see the battlefield when I was in Atlanta for the Final Four a few years ago (Oden team).  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 24, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
A Christmas Eve Bowl Game

New Mexico Bowl
3:30, ESPN
Hawaii v. Houston

A season of fits and starts for both these teams.  Houston had a lot of problems just getting a season together, and ended up 3-4, though all their losses were to respectable teams and they finished 51st on F+.  They would be an easy pick over Todd Graham's first Hawaii team, but they are also missing a bunch of guys for various reasons, so who knows what to expect.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 24, 2020, 12:19:49 PM
Reposting here because for some reason this ended up in the basketball Thread the first time...

So today we have the New Mexico Bowl.

Which doesn't involve any team from the state of New Mexico. And will be played in Texas.

An I missing something here?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 24, 2020, 12:26:56 PM
Reposting here because for some reason this ended up in the basketball Thread the first time...

So today we have the New Mexico Bowl.

Which doesn't involve any team from the state of New Mexico. And will be played in Texas.

An I missing something here?
It's usually played in Albuquerque but got moved this year due to COVID.  The most interesting part of its history is that it was once sponsored by Dreamhouse Productions, until they discovered that company didn't exist and the founder was a huge scam artist.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 24, 2020, 12:58:55 PM
Albuquerque's mayor won't allow families to attend?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 24, 2020, 01:49:12 PM
Albuquerque's mayor won't allow families to attend?
They had a bunch of issues and restrictions, IRRC.

That families thing, some good PR. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 24, 2020, 01:50:01 PM
Reposting here because for some reason this ended up in the basketball Thread the first time...

So today we have the New Mexico Bowl.

Which doesn't involve any team from the state of New Mexico. And will be played in Texas.

An I missing something here?
The money in some small way getting to the Albuquerque chamber of commerce. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 24, 2020, 02:14:49 PM
Was there actually a question as to the reason that it was moved to a different state? 

In 2020, I am going to assume Covid until informed otherwise. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 24, 2020, 02:27:22 PM
It's usually played in Albuquerque but got moved this year due to COVID.  The most interesting part of its history is that it was once sponsored by Dreamhouse Productions, until they discovered that company didn't exist and the founder was a huge scam artist.
Ahh, I forgot about that guy! I didn't realize that was this bowl!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 24, 2020, 04:49:22 PM
Was there actually a question as to the reason that it was moved to a different state?

In 2020, I am going to assume Covid until informed otherwise.
Covid.

It may a statewide policy rather than something peculiar to Albuquerque.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 24, 2020, 05:10:56 PM
like California?

is everyone leaving New Mexico too?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 24, 2020, 05:33:36 PM
I shouldn't cackle at Houston's issues. But I will.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 24, 2020, 05:39:08 PM
does anyone like Dana?

I took the 12.5 points and the rainbow warriors
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 24, 2020, 05:42:56 PM
like California?

is everyone leaving New Mexico too?
Yes. The basketball team is playing their home games in Texas
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 24, 2020, 06:30:24 PM
that's a long drive
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 24, 2020, 06:31:56 PM
does anyone like Dana?

I took the 12.5 points and the rainbow warriors
He's always struck me as a bit of a sleazeball.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 24, 2020, 09:34:16 PM
does anyone like Dana?

I took the 12.5 points and the rainbow warriors
No, he’s a pretty unlikeable guy.  I’ll say this for him though.  If you look at his conference winning percentage transitioning WVU into the Big 12 it was right there with what Patterson and Whittingham have done at TCU and Utah.  A lot of the fan base thought he underachieved here, but I always thought he did an altogether pretty decent job.  Not outstanding, but respectable.

But he’s a terrible face for a program.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 24, 2020, 10:46:32 PM
And terrible hair for a program.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 24, 2020, 11:41:58 PM
No, he’s a pretty unlikeable guy.  I’ll say this for him though.  If you look at his conference winning percentage transitioning WVU into the Big 12 it was right there with what Patterson and Whittingham have done at TCU and Utah.  A lot of the fan base thought he underachieved here, but I always thought he did an altogether pretty decent job.  Not outstanding, but respectable.

But he’s a terrible face for a program.
I think he's the right face for a program that wants to be a bit rebellious. Some schools eat that up. I never got the sense WVU wanted that. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 24, 2020, 11:44:29 PM
I never thought that he looked out of place at WV. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 25, 2020, 07:38:02 AM
Kinda hoping OU drops 70 now.

(https://i.imgur.com/lmMi0oi.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 25, 2020, 09:11:59 AM
Kinda hoping OU drops 70 now.

(https://i.imgur.com/lmMi0oi.png)
That game has, to borrow the OAM term, 24ing potential. 

Rare Oklahoma catches a team with a better offense and worse defense.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 25, 2020, 09:21:49 AM
70-63?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2020, 10:19:43 AM
apparently the Florida kids are way too young to remember the 2014 Suga & 2017 Suga bowls
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bamajoe on December 25, 2020, 12:11:44 PM
Florida has an excellent team but with very little depth. They have basically three great players and a bunch of mediocre roll players. Those great players are Kyle Trask, Kadarius Toney and Kyle Pitts, who is the best tight end I have ever seen. Pitts has opted out. Oklahoma should win this game by a couple scores.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 25, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
Merry Christmas!  Are you already tired of your family?  Bowl season has you covered.

Camellia Bowl
2:30, ESPN
Buffalo v. Marshall

We get a pretty good tilt on Christmas Day.  The runner up of the MAC, Buffalo takes on the runner up in CUSA, Marshall.  The teams look to be pretty evenly matched (Buffalo 35th on F+ and Marshall is 42nd) .  Should be strength on strength - Buffalo is the #1 rushing offense in the land, and Marshall is the #1 scoring defense in the land.  OTOH Buffalo is pretty average defensively and Marshall kind of sucks on offense.  So we could get a good game.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2020, 12:47:17 PM
and there's Husker Hoops this evening and the Vikings/Saints game this afternoon!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 25, 2020, 12:50:33 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/59/0d/65590dec558949627290f6a3785ece40.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2020, 12:52:09 PM
Florida has an excellent team but with very little depth. They have basically three great players and a bunch of mediocre roll players. Those great players are Kyle Trask, Kadarius Toney and Kyle Pitts, who is the best tight end I have ever seen. Pitts has opted out. Oklahoma should win this game by a couple scores.
hope you're right, took the Boomers and the points in my bowl pool

had to pick 13 bowl games - weighted
Okie State is my top weighted team, Sooners #2

state of Oklahoma better come through
also went heavy on the B1G - Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio St.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 25, 2020, 12:53:12 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/59/0d/65590dec558949627290f6a3785ece40.jpg)
I think I'd prefer a live cow named Ralphie running around shitting on things
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 25, 2020, 01:06:57 PM
Merry Christmas!  Are you already tired of your family?  Bowl season has you covered.

Camellia Bowl
2:30, ESPN
Buffalo v. Marshall

We get a pretty good tilt on Christmas Day.  The runner up of the MAC, Buffalo takes on the runner up in CUSA, Marshall.  The teams look to be pretty evenly matched (Buffalo 35th on F+ and Marshall is 42nd) .  Should be strength on strength - Buffalo is the #1 rushing offense in the land, and Marshall is the #1 scoring defense in the land.  OTOH Buffalo is pretty average defensively and Marshall kind of sucks on offense.  So we could get a good game.
I think that happened like in April, for a lot of people. That's why we blew out of Illinois in April to spend a coupla months down here. We still like each other.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 25, 2020, 03:17:21 PM
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/herald-dispatch.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/a5/aa5e2168-7865-556e-a389-ca925f7b110e/562233b81149c.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C1219)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 25, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
I still like this Buffalo team even with the upset.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 25, 2020, 03:59:21 PM
That game has, to borrow the OAM term, 24ing potential.

Rare Oklahoma catches a team with a better offense and worse defense.
Not this year.  Not the defensive part, anyway.
OU has the 2nd-best defense in the Big 12 and is ranked 19th in total defense in FBS.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 25, 2020, 05:49:06 PM
That was Buffalo's first win over Marshall since 1959. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 25, 2020, 06:40:58 PM
Not this year.  Not the defensive part, anyway.
OU has the 2nd-best defense in the Big 12 and is ranked 19th in total defense in FBS.
(My friend, that was the point, to be nice to the defense this year and nice to the UF offense)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 26, 2020, 08:18:16 AM
It's not a typical Saturday, but it's something.

First Responder Bowl
3:30 pm, ABC
UTSA v. Louisiana

UTSA is a spunky little team - they can run the ball, play some defense, and have been good on not turning the ball over.  They gave BYU all they wanted, and overall had a nice season for the 91st ranked team on F+..  But because the football world is run by idiots, they play Louisiana, who is a good team (27th) which already beat Iowa State by 17 and whose only loss was by 3 to Coastal Carolina.  Usually we get ticket sales as the excuse as to why bowl officials do these kinds of things, but that seems like a weak one this year.

LendingTree Bowl
3:30 pm, ESPN
Western Kentucky v. Georgia State

Ah, let's gather round and celebrate the long history of the LendingTree Bowl.  I'm not sure how it happened, but this game exists, featuring 5-4 Georgia State (82nd on F+) and 5-6 Western Kentucky (92nd on F+).  How you get a bowl game out of that combo is news to me, but hey, if you watch, let me know how it goes.

Cure Bowl
7:30 pm, ESPN
Liberty v. Coastal Carolina

Well, here it is, the greatest Cure Bowl in history.  Also a byproduct of college football idiocy, but at least the game might be good.  Hugh Freeze and his Gemstones have had a great season, with the only blemish a 1 point loss to NC State and wins over Syracuse and Virginia Tech.  Coastal Carolina has been awesome, and a lot of fun to watch on offense.  This one is wider on the fancystats than I expected - CC is 13th (one spot ahead of TAMU) but Liberty clocks down at 49th.  So, I dunno, I have a feeling Hugh Freeze will call in a few favors to get his team warmed up for this game.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 26, 2020, 08:30:52 AM
It's not a typical Saturday, but it's something.

First Responder Bowl
3:30 pm, ABC
UTSA v. Louisiana

UTSA is a spunky little team - they can run the ball, play some defense, and have been good on not turning the ball over.  They gave BYU all they wanted, and overall had a nice season for the 91st ranked team on F+..  But because the football world is run by idiots, they play Louisiana, who is a good team (27th) which already beat Iowa State by 17 and whose only loss was by 3 to Coastal Carolina.  Usually we get ticket sales as the excuse as to why bowl officials do these kinds of things, but that seems like a weak one this year.

LendingTree Bowl
3:30 pm, ESPN
Western Kentucky v. Georgia State

Ah, let's gather round and celebrate the long history of the LendingTree Bowl.  I'm not sure how it happened, but this game exists, featuring 5-4 Georgia State (82nd on F+) and 5-6 Western Kentucky (92nd on F+).  How you get a bowl game out of that combo is news to me, but hey, if you watch, let me know how it goes.

Cure Bowl
7:30 pm, ESPN
Liberty v. Coastal Carolina

Well, here it is, the greatest Cure Bowl in history.  Also a byproduct of college football idiocy, but at least the game might be good.  Hugh Freeze and his Gemstones have had a great season, with the only blemish a 1 point loss to NC State and wins over Syracuse and Virginia Tech.  Coastal Carolina has been awesome, and a lot of fun to watch on offense.  This one is wider on the fancystats than I expected - CC is 13th (one spot ahead of TAMU) but Liberty clocks down at 49th.  So, I dunno, I have a feeling Hugh Freeze will call in a few favors to get his team warmed up for this game.
Good sir! The lending tree bowl has over 20 years of glorious history. None of that glorious history has involves holding on to a sponsor. And it might not be all that glorious, but it’s OK.

This day was supposed to be at least a little more full, but it was the home of two small bowls that got canceled out the gate, and then South Carolina had a staff outbreak that knocked out that game, which would’ve not been enjoyable.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 26, 2020, 11:54:55 AM
(My friend, that was the point, to be nice to the defense this year and nice to the UF offense)
Ah.  Sorry that I missed it.
The sorry defense for five years (2015-19) has been the cause of much angst among Sooner fandom, especially when we consider the many great defenses of previous OU teams.
So I'm probably spring-loaded to go into defensive posture.
But it has been MUCH better this year in Alex Grinch's second year as DC.  It's not great--yet--but it at least qualifies as good.
Meanwhile, the offense has taken a step backward this year.  Freshman QB, loss of top two RBs, most of the OL starting the season fat and out of shape, poor 2nd-half play-calling by Lincoln Riley--there have been many explanations.  It's the leading offense in the Big 12, but it's not a great offense.
I don't think we can win a shootout with Florida.  We are going to need our defense to get some stops on the Gators.
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 26, 2020, 12:40:16 PM
Ah.  Sorry that I missed it.
The sorry defense for five years (2015-19) has been the cause of much angst among Sooner fandom, especially when we consider the many great defenses of previous OU teams.
So I'm probably spring-loaded to go into defensive posture.
But it has been MUCH better this year in Alex Grinch's second year as DC.  It's not great--yet--but it at least qualifies as good.
Meanwhile, the offense has taken a step backward this year.  Freshman QB, loss of top two RBs, most of the OL starting the season fat and out of shape, poor 2nd-half play-calling by Lincoln Riley--there have been many explanations.  It's the leading offense in the Big 12, but it's not a great offense.
I don't think we can win a shootout with Florida.  We are going to need our defense to get some stops on the Gators.
Heh, no worries. I would've been defensive too. 

Per SP+, defense is up to 21st. Offense is down to 4th, but that's misleading because OU is usually not only 1st, but first by a large margin.

I think y'all can win a shootout because I think the UF defense is worse than its 31st ranking, but is also depends how you define a shootout. UF lost to A&m 41-38. If that's a shootout, OU can win that.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 26, 2020, 02:11:26 PM
Oh man - Utah RB Ty Jordan passes away from an accidental gunshot. Was just named the Pac Freshman of the Year
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 26, 2020, 02:38:21 PM
Oh man - Utah RB Ty Jordan passes away from an accidental gunshot. Was just named the Pac Freshman of the Year
Just terrible. I watched a game or two of theirs. It's way beside the point that he was enjoyable to watch, but he very much was. 
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Post by: Kris60 on December 26, 2020, 11:11:11 PM
One of the weirdest plays I’ve ever seen in CC and Liberty. Tie game with under a minute left.  Liberty has the ball inside the 5 and CC has no timeouts.  Liberty is purposely not trying to score a TD to set up a GW FG at the gun, while CC wants them to score to get the ball back.

 The Liberty RB gets caught up in a scrum where the CC defenders are trying to drag him across the goal line while one of his TE is trying to pull him back to keep from scoring.  In the midst of all that, the RB fumbles the football.  CC recovers and we’re headed to OT.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 26, 2020, 11:20:24 PM
One of the weirdest plays I’ve ever seen in CC and Liberty. Tie game with under a minute left.  Liberty has the ball inside the 5 and CC has no timeouts.  Liberty is purposely not trying to score a TD to set up a GW FG at the gun, while CC wants them to score to get the ball back.

 The Liberty RB gets caught up in a scrum where the CC defenders are trying to drag him across the goal line while one of his TE is trying to pull him back to keep from scoring.  In the midst of all that, the RB fumbles the football.  CC recovers and we’re headed to OT.
Should have just taken a knee.   Bad coaching.  He should never have stepped forward towards those defenders.  Will cost them the game 
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 26, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Or not.  Lol

What a game
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Post by: Kris60 on December 26, 2020, 11:25:56 PM
Best game of the bowl season so far.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 26, 2020, 11:27:19 PM
Best game of the bowl season so far. 
Totally!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 26, 2020, 11:30:26 PM
Should have just taken a knee.  Bad coaching.  He should never have stepped forward towards those defenders.  Will cost them the game
Yeah, I agree.  But the RB played it perfectly the play before.  Just stopped until they approached him and took a knee.  For some reason he tiptoed toward the LOS the next play and got caught up in the scrum. Just bonkers to see the D trying to drag him across the goal line and his teammate literally jumping on his back trying to prevent it.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 26, 2020, 11:32:39 PM

I don't think we can win a shootout with Florida.  We are going to need our defense to get some stops on the Gators.
Florida played 2 defenses better (by total defense) than OU's, and the next-best was Alabama's this year.  In those 3 games, the Gators scored 38, 44, and 46 points.
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Luckily for the Sooners, this is the worst Florida defense in........possibly my lifetime?  I'm gonna find out, brb.

**Wow, yep.  Worst Florida defense....EVER.  By 20 yards per game.  EVER.  EVERRRRRR.  Boy, that's nuts.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 28, 2020, 12:33:17 PM
Zero bowl games today, and two tomorrow? 

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Post by: 847badgerfan on December 28, 2020, 12:42:56 PM
Zero bowl games today, and two tomorrow?

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ESecPN has Monday Night Football tonight.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 28, 2020, 12:56:21 PM
There was supposed to be the Military Bowl today but it got canceled
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 28, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
Florida played 2 defenses better (by total defense) than OU's, and the next-best was Alabama's this year.  In those 3 games, the Gators scored 38, 44, and 46 points.
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Luckily for the Sooners, this is the worst Florida defense in........possibly my lifetime?  I'm gonna find out, brb.

**Wow, yep.  Worst Florida defense....EVER.  By 20 yards per game.  EVER.  EVERRRRRR.  Boy, that's nuts. 
Looks like the Gators top three receivers in Toney, Pitts, and Grimes are skipping the bowl game
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Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 02:02:35 PM
that should help - I took the Sooners and the 4.5 points
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 28, 2020, 02:14:30 PM
Florida played 2 defenses better (by total defense) than OU's, and the next-best was Alabama's this year.  In those 3 games, the Gators scored 38, 44, and 46 points.
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Luckily for the Sooners, this is the worst Florida defense in........possibly my lifetime?  I'm gonna find out, brb.

**Wow, yep.  Worst Florida defense....EVER.  By 20 yards per game.  EVER.  EVERRRRRR.  Boy, that's nuts. 
Just by raw yards a game? That would seem a slightly poor metric, if that's the case.
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 02:38:27 PM
Looks like the Gators top three receivers in Toney, Pitts, and Grimes are skipping the bowl game
There's your answer to expanding the Play offs
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 28, 2020, 02:54:46 PM
There's your answer to expanding the Play offs
How do you mean?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 03:13:55 PM
There's your answer to expanding the Play offs
this isn't a playoff game

just a bowl game like we've had since you were a kid
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Post by: 847badgerfan on December 28, 2020, 03:17:29 PM
What Mr N. is saying is that if Florida were in the playoff, these kids would be playing.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 03:22:23 PM
but, if it was an 8-team playoff, they wouldn't

I think that's what he's getting to
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Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 03:23:07 PM
not easy or recommended to get in that dude's head and mill around
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 28, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
I that applies to all of us.
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Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 03:36:49 PM
some of us more than others, but true

speaking of burgers.  I was gifted a 2lb package of USA Wagyu 80% ground beef.

should be a great burger
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 28, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
What Mr N. is saying is that if Florida were in the playoff, these kids would be playing.
Ahh, so he want's a bigger playoff?
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Post by: 847badgerfan on December 28, 2020, 04:08:23 PM
I'm not going any further into his  head. I've been advised.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 28, 2020, 04:09:14 PM
I'm not going any further into his  head. I've been advised.
Very fair
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Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 04:11:49 PM
and smart
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:14:10 PM
What Mr N. is saying is that if Florida were in the playoff, these kids would be playing.
IMO if it's expanded many will pack it in.Nothing wrong with what we have.Win your Conference or totally dominate opponents,if not you get what you get.The committee has gotten it right on the 6 Champions so far.
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:15:24 PM
I'm not going any further into his  head. I've been advised.
:character0029: well there are more than one of us in here
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:15:57 PM
Ahh, so he want's a bigger playoff?
Um,no
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:19:52 PM
this isn't a playoff game

just a bowl game like we've had since you were a kid
I get that but they're pulling in the reigns more and more is my point - can't blame them specially this year.Suppose if I was in their place I'd at least ask the program to insure me then I'd suit up.Forget who but someone I heard actually had a Lloyds policy
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Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2020, 04:21:58 PM
impermissible benefit

gotta have your agent put up that $$$
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:26:44 PM
not easy or recommended to get in that dude's head and mill around
Correct more hazards in there than the courses you play
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2020, 04:31:56 PM
impermissible benefit

gotta have your agent put up that $$$
I don't think so,simply a hedge against injury,if the wonks balk - sayonara,hello NFL
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Post by: CWSooner on December 28, 2020, 11:06:29 PM
this isn't a playoff game

just a bowl game like we've had since you were a kid
Nope.  Worse.

When I was a kid, the Cotton Bowl was one of the top 4 games of the post-season.

Now it's just another NY6 non-playoff bowl game 2/3 of the time.

The CFP is part of what's ruining college football.
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Post by: CWSooner on December 28, 2020, 11:08:04 PM
some of us more than others, but true

speaking of burgers.  I was gifted a 2lb package of USA Wagyu 80% ground beef.

should be a great burger
I've never had a 2-pound burger of any type of ground beef.
You'll have to tell how it comes out.
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 28, 2020, 11:32:15 PM
Nope.  Worse.

When I was a kid, the Cotton Bowl was one of the top 4 games of the post-season.

Now it's just another NY6 non-playoff bowl game 2/3 of the time.

The CFP is part of what's ruining college football.
So it went from being top four to being top 6?

Is the thesis that the playoff is siphoning so much attention/value from the other bowls that they're just rendered less meaningful?
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Post by: Kris60 on December 28, 2020, 11:41:44 PM
Nope.  Worse.

When I was a kid, the Cotton Bowl was one of the top 4 games of the post-season.

Now it's just another NY6 non-playoff bowl game 2/3 of the time.

The CFP is part of what's ruining college football.
I’m a child of the 80’s.  This year’s matchup is basically like every Cotton Bowl when I was growing up.  Two very good top ten teams that aren’t playing for a national title.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 29, 2020, 08:04:16 AM
Back to bowl games today

Cheez-It Bowl
4:30, ESPN
Oklahoma St. v. Miami

Here comes the big boys, all hail the big boys.  These are two pretty evenly matched teams (25 v. 23 on F+).  The fancystats actually like Okie St.'s defense much more than their offense.  Miami has the reputation of a good team but they got destroyed by North Carolina and Clemson, and had a streak of three wins by a combined 7 points.  D'Eriq King runs around a lot trying to make things happen,s o you can tune in to see that.  No Chuba Hubbard, who never really got going this year and is now off to the NFL.

Alamo Bowl
9 pm, ESPN
Colorado v. Texas

Kind of a late tip for a lazy midweek bowl game, but so be it.  Colorado escaped the clutches of the Pac 12 to make a bowl game, though there isn't much evidence they are actually good. Four fairly close wins over UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, and SDSU and a blowout loss to Utah.  They are 57th on F+, going up against 19th ranked Texas and a team that hasn't lost a bowl game under Tom Herman. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 29, 2020, 08:46:16 AM
Two contests that you can look forward too and enjoy a couple of schooners
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 29, 2020, 08:50:51 AM
Nope.  Worse.

When I was a kid, the Cotton Bowl was one of the top 4 games of the post-season.
Correct,I think the Fiesta has sort of nudged it to 2 nd tier.

Now it's just another NY6 non-playoff bowl game 2/3 of the time.The CFP is part of what's ruining college football.
Maybe but the networks handing out participation Bowls certainly didn't help
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Post by: FearlessF on December 29, 2020, 09:06:22 AM
I've never had a 2-pound burger of any type of ground beef.
You'll have to tell how it comes out.
I'm thinking it will be divided into 4 or maybe 6 burgers.
Back in my 20's I attended a backyard grill party.  I threw a 2 lb package of ground beef on the grill as a burger.  Didn't slice the raw white onion, just ate it like an apple along with the rare burger with some chips.  No bun needed.
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 29, 2020, 09:12:27 AM
Raw white onions huh?And you actually got dates
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 29, 2020, 09:24:15 AM
A poster on a Buckeye Board brought up a good point


The NCAA wasn’t smart in giving exclusive rights to ESPN, not because it’s ESPN, but giving it to one singular network shuts out all of the other networks, like, NBC, Fox and CBS, and they have no incentive to promote the playoff. Joel Klatt mentioned this weeks ago, saying how after the conference championships, Fox is like “see ya good luck” to CFB as it goes into the post season, and doesn’t really care if it succeeds. 
 
 The NFL shares the Super Bowl with CBS, Fox, and NBC, so those networks have incentive to promote it and want it to succeed, even though it’s not their turn to broadcast it. 



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Post by: FearlessF on December 29, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
rooting for the Big 12 today

money on Okie state and Texas

really not a fan of the Canes or Ralphie
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Post by: bayareabadger on December 29, 2020, 10:58:28 AM
A poster on a Buckeye Board brought up a good point


The NCAA wasn’t smart in giving exclusive rights to ESPN, not because it’s ESPN, but giving it to one singular network shuts out all of the other networks, like, NBC, Fox and CBS, and they have no incentive to promote the playoff. Joel Klatt mentioned this weeks ago, saying how after the conference championships, Fox is like “see ya good luck” to CFB as it goes into the post season, and doesn’t really care if it succeeds.
 


The NFL shares the Super Bowl with CBS, Fox, and NBC, so those networks have incentive to promote it and want it to succeed, even though it’s not their turn to broadcast it.




Does ... does the playoff need more promotion?
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Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 11:17:17 AM
Does ... does the playoff need more promotion?
That was my first thought, too.  And it probably doesn’t to guys like you and me and anyone who takes the time to post on a college football message board.  But to your more casual “who’s in the CFB playoff this year” fan maybe that’s a valid point.  I know I’m guilty of sometimes thinking everyone pays as attention to college football as I do and then you get in a conversation with someone knows Les Miles is no longer at LSU but doesn’t know what happened to him.  So, it might be something worth considering for those type fans.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 29, 2020, 01:11:13 PM
So everyone's rooting for OSU2 and Colorado tonight, no? 
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 29, 2020, 01:13:28 PM
rooting for the Big 12 today

money on Okie state and Texas

really not a fan of the Canes or Ralphie


You are rooting SWC over Big 8? 

You need to have your black shirt revoked. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 29, 2020, 01:27:39 PM
Okie st is Big 8

and nobody likes Ralphie

besides, I need to cover the wager
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Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
I’m a child of the 80’s.  This year’s matchup is basically like every Cotton Bowl when I was growing up.  Two very good top ten teams that aren’t playing for a national title.
At least twice during the 1960s, the MNC came out of the Cotton Bowl.
One of the dominoes that had to fall for the '75 Sooners to be playing for the MNC in the Orange Bowl vs. Michigan was 10-1 Texas A&M losing to 7-4 USC in the Cotton Bowl earlier that day.
Texas lost the 1984 MNC by losing 10-9 to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  And I'm sure I'm omitting some other examples.
So, once upon a time it was a big bowl.  I always thought of it as #4 of the four big bowls--the others being Rose, Orange, and Sugar--but maybe that's because the Big 8 champ never went there.  And maybe also because Dallas at New Year's is not a glamorous or enchanting vacation destination.
Of course, the Rose Bowl, where the Big 8 champ also never went, was #1 as the Granddaddy of 'em all.
Now it's one of the NY6, so every three years it gets to host a "meaningful" game.
Some Florida fans are saying that the Gators will get stomped with all their top receivers sitting it out.  Others are saying that they shouldn't even play the game, because it's irrelevant.
Which gets me back to my gripe about the CFP.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 04:28:01 PM
Quote
MrNubbz: Correct,I think the Fiesta has sort of nudged it to 2 nd tier.
When the BCS began, and the four bowls were chosen to be part of the rotation, the Fiesta put in a higher/better bid (and/or paid bigger bribes) and the Cotton was left on the outside.  Before that, the Fiesta Bowl didn't really have a claim to anything other than having been the site of undefeated BYU beating 6-win Michigan for the extremely mythical national championship.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 04:28:48 PM
I'm thinking it will be divided into 4 or maybe 6 burgers.
Back in my 20's I attended a backyard grill party.  I threw a 2 lb package of ground beef on the grill as a burger.  Didn't slice the raw white onion, just ate it like an apple along with the rare burger with some chips.  No bun needed.
But when you became a man, you put away childish things.
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Post by: Cincydawg on December 29, 2020, 04:30:31 PM
UGA has I think 9 players opting out, mostly starters.

I agree there were four major bowls, now there are six.  UGA has never been to the Fiesta so to me it seems contrived.  The Peach shows you can throw money at it.

The Peach Bowl was almost folded ca. 1976 or so.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on December 29, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
When the BCS began, and the four bowls were chosen to be part of the rotation, the Fiesta put in a higher/better bid (and/or paid bigger bribes) and the Cotton was left on the outside.  Before that, the Fiesta Bowl didn't really have a claim to anything other than having been the site of undefeated BYU beating 6-win Michigan for the extremely mythical national championship.
Not to quibble, but that happened in the Holiday Bowl.

The Fiesta was started as a bowl game for ASU and UA to play in, while they were still in the WAC. It has quite a history.


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Post by: MarqHusker on December 29, 2020, 04:57:12 PM
The Fiesta was always aggressive.   One of the first to adopt a title sponsor.  Barged into NYD, at first with a less attractive kickoff time but they got NBCs attention.  Really waved around the checkbook and filled a void by wooing the Independent teams as well.   Their move to pull in Miami and Penn St. really made a statement.  To me that's the blow the Cotton Bowl couldn't recover from and of course the demise of SWC
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 06:24:40 PM
At least twice during the 1960s, the MNC came out of the Cotton Bowl.
One of the dominoes that had to fall for the '75 Sooners to be playing for the MNC in the Orange Bowl vs. Michigan was 10-1 Texas A&M losing to 7-4 USC in the Cotton Bowl earlier that day.
Texas lost the 1984 MNC by losing 10-9 to Georgia in the Cotton Bowl.  And I'm sure I'm omitting some other examples.
So, once upon a time it was a big bowl.  I always thought of it as #4 of the four big bowls--the others being Rose, Orange, and Sugar--but maybe that's because the Big 8 champ never went there.  And maybe also because Dallas at New Year's is not a glamorous or enchanting vacation destination.
Of course, the Rose Bowl, where the Big 8 champ also never went, was #1 as the Granddaddy of 'em all.
Now it's one of the NY6, so every three years it gets to host a "meaningful" game.
Some Florida fans are saying that the Gators will get stomped with all their top receivers sitting it out.  Others are saying that they shouldn't even play the game, because it's irrelevant.
Which gets me back to my gripe about the CFP.
It’s still a big bowl game. It still gets better matchups than most bowls but doesn’t figure into the NC picture most years. That’s the same as it ever was.

I think the CFP gets the blame for these guys sitting out when I think it is the evolution of the selfish athlete.  You didn’t used to see guys transferring at the drop of a hat either.  Now they do. We could go back to old bowl/poll model tomorrow and I think moving forward you would still see guys sitting out.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 29, 2020, 06:49:18 PM
Ouch - D'eriq King looks like he may have torn up his knee. Always rough to see that in bowl games
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Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 07:53:30 PM
Meh, the refs just wiped off a 2 point conversion from Miami that there wasn’t enough evidence to do so.  No way you could unequivocally tell he was down before the ball crossed. 21-19 Okie Lite.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 07:59:31 PM
The Fiesta was always aggressive.  One of the first to adopt a title sponsor.  Barged into NYD, at first with a less attractive kickoff time but they got NBCs attention.  Really waved around the checkbook and filled a void by wooing the Independent teams as well.  Their move to pull in Miami and Penn St. really made a statement.  To me that's the blow the Cotton Bowl couldn't recover from and of course the demise of SWC
To be fair, the sponsor was perfect.  They're absurd and out of control now, but that was a perfect marriage.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 08:02:28 PM
The Fiesta mattered when it hosted 1 vs 2 for the '86 NC.  Then, yes, when the BCS began, it relegated the Cotton to 2nd-tier.  The Cotton hadn't mattered since then, until being included in the NY6.  Now it's still a rung below the others, along with the Peach.  While the Peach has ascended to its current status, the Cotton fell to its.  

The Fiesta is like Florida, FSU, and Miami when helmet status conversations come up.  It has it all, except history.  
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All that being said, the Rose, Sugar, and Orange are the big 3.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 08:03:09 PM
The Cowpokes have done jack squat since the first quarter, btw.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
Does opting out at halftime of your bowl game look good to NFL teams? lol
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Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 08:15:35 PM
Tylan Wallace has apparently decided not to play in the second half.   That’s interesting.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 29, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
BTW with these announcers doing games from home - does that impact anything for you?  I wonder if they just decide to keep that up for these games.  Seems like it saves money.
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Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
BTW with these announcers doing games from home - does that impact anything for you?  I wonder if they just decide to keep that up for these games.  Seems like it saves money.
Honestly, if I didn’t already know I couldn’t tell anything had changed with the broadcast of these games.
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Post by: MaximumSam on December 29, 2020, 08:55:34 PM
Heck of a game this has been
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 29, 2020, 09:03:56 PM
BTW with these announcers doing games from home - does that impact anything for you?  I wonder if they just decide to keep that up for these games.  Seems like it saves money.


If I remember correctly, ESPN starting doing remote, in-studio announcing four or five years ago, for their later, more obscure games. It wasn’t received well, but fast forward to 2020 and I don’t think anybody really cares.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 09:08:08 PM
Miami’s WR have been awful.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 09:16:08 PM
Not to quibble, but that happened in the Holiday Bowl.

The Fiesta was started as a bowl game for ASU and UA to play in, while they were still in the WAC. It has quite a history.
Yeah, I just came back to correct that mistake!  :smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 09:16:58 PM
Wow, CU hasn't won a bowl game since Joel Klatt was their QB?  Now he's just a talking head chode.....
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 09:21:16 PM
Meh, the refs just wiped off a 2 point conversion from Miami that there wasn’t enough evidence to do so.  No way you could unequivocally tell he was down before the ball crossed. 21-19 Okie Lite.
I think that he was down before he got the ball across the line, but I didn't think they had enough evidence to overturn the call on the field to the contrary.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 29, 2020, 09:36:50 PM
Wow, CU hasn't won a bowl game since Joel Klatt was their QB?  Now he's just a talking head chode.....
They don't look they're going to win this one either.  Texas is threatening to go up 14-0 in the 1st quarter.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 10:19:17 PM
Hell of an effort by the Colorado RB to score that TD and get them back in the game.  Texas was all over that sweep.  Kid just wanted it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 10:21:39 PM
I need a break from these announcers.  Watching CFB 150 on ESPNU.  I'd rather listen to Barry Switzer talk about recruiting for awhile.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 10:24:22 PM
Hell of an effort by the Colorado RB to score that TD and get them back in the game.  Texas was all over that sweep.  Kid just wanted it.
Yeah, he had no business scoring there.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 29, 2020, 10:27:45 PM
To be fair, the sponsor was perfect.  They're absurd and out of control now, but that was a perfect marriage.
While Tostitos was perfect, it wasn't the first one or even the second sponsor for the Fiesta 
The Sunkist Fiesta was a great name.  Remember the IBM OS/2 Fiesta?   YouTube that game and check out the field conditions for that game.   Just dreadful. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 29, 2020, 10:40:05 PM
I grew up with the FedEx Orange Bowl and the USF+G Sugar Bowl.  WTF is USF+G?  There should be a bowl sponsorship committee to make sure we only get combinations akin to the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.

No weedeaters, no .coms, none of that crap.  Have a weekly show, introducing a new sponsorship pairing, lol.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 29, 2020, 10:48:48 PM
While Tostitos was perfect, it wasn't the first one or even the second sponsor for the Fiesta
The Sunkist Fiesta was a great name.  Remember the IBM OS/2 Fiesta?  YouTube that game and check out the field conditions for that game.  Just dreadful.
I had actually forgotten it was originally the Sunkist Fiesta Bowl and, yeah, that was a good fit too.  Sunkist would actually be a great fit for the Orange Bowl too.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2020, 12:04:52 AM
  Sunkist would actually be a great fit for the Orange Bowl too.
How dare you!
Sunkist is in CA.  Do NOT mix your oranges.  The Orange Bowl will be sponsored by Florida's Natural or Tropicana ONLY.  The other can sponsor the Citrus Bowl, but that's named for the citrus growers anyway.

And do NOT be fooled by "Simply Orange"......they Simply mix oranges from all over the western hemisphere for that swill.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 30, 2020, 12:18:19 AM
If I’m Sam Ehlinger I’m probably declaring for the draft because he might not have a job if he comes back to Texas.

His backup is showing out.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2020, 04:08:10 AM
There are 2 reasons Ehlinger should come back to UTA:
1 - to set all-time Texas records, or
2 - a position change

Just a glorified fullback, really.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 07:29:22 AM
Hey, we get a B1G game today!  Just one of them though :(

Dukes Mayo Bowl
Noon, ESPN
Wisconsin v. Wake Forest

The mayonnaise bowl is coming at you, and I think these two teams should cover themselves in Dukes before playing. So, this game.  3-3 Wisconsin clearly did not have the season they wanted given how they started and their fancystat rating, which is 15th.  Wake Forest is not a fancystat darling at 59th, and also had a crappy season (3-4).  Wake has put up some points and given up some points - they have lost games where they scored 42 and 53 points.  Still, there is one exceptional unit in this game and it is Wisconsin's defense.  The question will be can they score some points to keep out of the fluky loss category that bit them this season.

Cotton Bowl
8 pm, ESPN
Oklahoma v. Florida

A great matchup per F+, with Oklahoma at 5 and Florida at 6.  Both teams can score, and Oklahoma has even messed around playing some defense this year, though Florida hasn't so much.  The biggest question mark is how will Florida look without their top three receivers, who have all skipped the game for the NFL.  If they can at least look the part, we should have a pretty fun game where both teams throw the ball and attack the quarterback.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 07:52:07 AM
Reading the Athletic and one idea they talked about was if the new stuff passes where players can get paid for using their likeness and whatnot, will bowl games start to pay star players as part of the bowl process, presumably to entice them to play in the bowl?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
Not feeling too good about this game. I think the defense will be tested, and the offense again challenged. Too many kids are still out.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Abba on December 30, 2020, 09:07:49 AM


I normally don't root for teams in the West, but what the heck.  Go Badgers today!


Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 30, 2020, 10:20:29 AM
Wake Forest has to be the lamest of all of the "P5 programs." Not specifically this year, but just overall in general. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 30, 2020, 10:35:20 AM
Wake with few exceptions has been a lower level program, as has Duke, Vandy,, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, Kansas and KSU, etc.  And of course plenty that were high level back in the day are chumps now (including Vandy and Yale and Army).  Wake is a fairly small private school oddly enough not located in Wake Forest, NC, they moved a while back to Winston-Salem, which of course is famous for cigarettes.  W-S is a pretty nice town overall.  We used to drive there to go to a bar near WF campus.

Chapel Hill was really bar deficient.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 30, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
True story, I was visiting my younger brother in the triangle early 2000s, he was working for Durham Bulls.  It was spring break and there was a Duke/Unc game @Chapel Hill.  We ended up at a place called Hes not Here.   This place couldn't/didn't serve liquor and we could tell that they were running out of beer as cups were covering handles and the transparent fridge case was getting thin.  Selection was vanishing.   Our WI contingent starting to notice this and we started buying 8-12 at a time and it was a scarce commodity. Pretty soon Hes Not Here became Beer's not Here.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 30, 2020, 11:11:28 AM
Yeah, been there many times, one of two main bars in Chapel Hill, and they didn't serve hard liquor.  That was a shock to me coming from Athens.

The other bar was Harrison's on Franklin Street, I think both are long gone now.  The few other bars were for "locals".

My time in CH was rather weird, to me, looking back.  It got me a decent job anyway.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 30, 2020, 11:43:54 AM
True story, I was visiting my younger brother in the triangle early 2000s, he was working for Durham Bulls.  It was spring break and there was a Duke/Unc game @Chapel Hill.  We ended up at a place called Hes not Here.  This place couldn't/didn't serve liquor and we could tell that they were running out of beer as cups were covering handles and the transparent fridge case was getting thin.  Selection was vanishing.  Our WI contingent starting to notice this and we started buying 8-12 at a time and it was a scarce commodity. Pretty soon Hes Not Here became Beer's not Here. 
Obviously. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 12:08:29 PM
Wake goes right down the field. 2nd and goal now.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
7-0 Wake. No pass rush at all there.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 12:20:42 PM
Defense looks lost too.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 12:23:18 PM
TD Wake. Maybe I'll just get back to work.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 12:49:06 PM
Nice drive from Wiscy.  The internet was out and I missed the Wake touchdowns.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 01:12:14 PM
Special Team Badger
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 01:32:20 PM
Well, at least they kinda got it together. Need to play a lot cleaner in the second.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
what the heck happened to the Badgers this season?

I thought they'd dominate physically in this game
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
3 starting OL out. Top 3 WR's out. Top 2 CB's out. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 02:20:23 PM
Badgers used to be solid 2 deep along the O-line

10 big bruisers, maybe 11 or 12

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Abba on December 30, 2020, 02:22:44 PM
Speaking of bar deficient, our very own Terrapins have 1 bar on campus.  Hopefully my info as of 2014 is outdated, but I think they just expected everyone to go to DC.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 02:24:34 PM
Badgers used to be solid 2 deep along the O-line

10 big bruisers, maybe 11 or 12


2020.

Also missing 2 DE's and now the starting NT is out.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
no alcohol allowed on Nebraska state property which is campus.

there are plenty of bars within a few blocks
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
thank God for special teams and turnovers!!!

Go Bucky!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
little late for these but gonna be hard to top cc/liberty game and ok st/miami game.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 03:03:36 PM
UW needs some skill on the outsides on both O and D. It's a huge weakness right now, but supposedly help is coming.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 03:05:19 PM
Well, that was good.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
The box score in this game is wild
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 03:23:06 PM
WF QB is the UW MVP.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 30, 2020, 04:18:13 PM
So 2020...

(https://i.imgur.com/RqC5SNx.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 30, 2020, 04:18:24 PM
The box score in this game is wild
Didn't see this game.  . My thats some drive chart.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 30, 2020, 04:21:47 PM
Clearly the trophy wasn't made out of Duke's as it takes a lot of cold air exposure to create that kind of separation with that Mayo.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 30, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
The box score in this game is wild
WF QB is the UW MVP.
I just came here to post almost exactly these thoughts.  I didn't watch (at work) but just checked the box score and saw the WF outgained UW by nearly double (518-266) but lost the turnover battle 4-1.  Also, UW's one turnover was a pretty harmless INT thrown right before the half from about midfield and intercepted on the WF 19.  Thus, Wake simply ran one play and went to the locker-room all tied up.  Wake also had two more quasi-turnovers, a blocked punt and losing the ball on downs after getting stuffed near midfield on a 4th and 1. 

I thought this comparison was interesting:
Wake Forest's scoring drives:


Wisconsin's scoring drives:

So Wisconsin scored 21 points on drives that started INSIDE the WF 10 yard line and another 14 on drives that started almost in the red zone.  That is just crazy and lucky for Wisconsin because they didn't do much on drives that started in the normal range of field position.  Wisconsin also had a missed FG after getting the ball on the 26 and losing four yards on three plays before missing a 48 yarder.  

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 30, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
It’s really hard to outgain a team by that much and lose.  That is nuts.  Makes for an interesting question.

What’s the most your favorite team ever outgained an opponent and lost.  Conversely, what is the most they have ever been outgained and won?  Obviously, it will be hard to know the real answer to that but a couple of games jump to mind for me.  In 2007, WVU outgained USF 437-274 and lost.  6 Turnovers.  No suprise.

In 09, UConn outgained WVU 501-387 and lost.  There may be more extreme cases but I remember that one.  Going to be hard to beat that Wisconsin box score though.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 05:08:22 PM
that's an interesting box score. i didn't get to watch either, so this might not be the case, but a lot of times you see those lopsided  yards in opposite blowouts doesn't really mean the game would or should have been much closer. just because you didn't have to drive the field and build up yards doesn't mean you couldn't/wouldn't have.

having said that, uw's other drives in the box score don't exactly give a lot of confidence either.

congrats, badgers. next time don't break the mayo jar.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 30, 2020, 05:20:56 PM
Winning that game was nice and good. It was weird to watch the defense play like garbage, which usually hasn’t happened, and then watch it suddenly decide to save the offense, which played more competently than it has. We are done with the year, and I’m glad it is over for many reasons.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 30, 2020, 05:24:25 PM
It’s really hard to outgain a team by that much and lose.  That is nuts.  Makes for an interesting question.

What’s the most your favorite team ever outgained an opponent and lost.  Conversely, what is the most they have ever been outgained and won?  Obviously, it will be hard to know the real answer to that but a couple of games jump to mind for me.  In 2007, WVU outgained USF 437-274 and lost.  6 Turnovers.  No suprise.

In 09, UConn outgained WVU 501-387 and lost.  There may be more extreme cases but I remember that one.  Going to be hard to beat that Wisconsin box score though.
OSU out gained Clemson last year 516- 416. Not the most extreme example, but you asked. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 30, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
having said that, uw's other drives in the box score don't exactly give a lot of confidence either.
They sure don't, UW's non-scoring drives:

Like you said, that doesn't give a lot of confidence.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 30, 2020, 06:21:16 PM
Congrats to the Badgers!

Florida has gone from being a 3-point favorite to an 8.5-point underdog.

If you bet the Sooners at +3, maybe you should now bet the Gators at +8.5.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2020, 07:12:18 PM
Yeah, these opt-outs are so funnnnnnn.  For me, I care less about winning the game and more interested in the preview of our pass-catchers for next year.  Xzavier Henderson, Rick Wells, and Zipperer are some names you'll hear more today than you have all year.

Hell, if Trask lights it up without his top 3 4 guys, hand him the Heisman.  OU's defense is really good, right?
On the other hand, don't be surprised if Emory Jones gets the most snaps at QB.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 30, 2020, 08:17:13 PM
The little guy sprinting down the sideline waving a towel with every big OU play is cracking me up.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 30, 2020, 08:40:05 PM
At this rate Trask might get yanked
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2020, 08:58:18 PM
Okay, so Florida is missing:
top 4 pass catchers
2nd best D-lineman
MLB
starting S
starting CB


Yeah, if OU doesn't roll, nothing can help them.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Benthere2 on December 30, 2020, 09:15:57 PM
Mertz drops the Mayo trophy  great advertising for Duke's
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 09:32:27 PM
Okay, so Florida is missing:
top 4 pass catchers
2nd best D-lineman
MLB
starting S
starting CB


Yeah, if OU doesn't roll, nothing can help them.
sounds almost as bad as Wisconsin

sorry, no tears for you
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 09:38:34 PM
Boomer Sooners 12ving in the first half
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 30, 2020, 09:40:29 PM
We'd be doing okay if it was just backups playing, but we have dudes who haven't played at all in there.  Fun stuff.  Good job, OU.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 30, 2020, 09:41:15 PM
Oklahoma is missing some key players also

At Oklahoma, senior cornerback Tre Brown chose not to play in the bowl game and will begin preparation for the NFL Draft. ... Their top three pass catchers — Kadarius Toney, Kyle Pitts and Trevon Grimes — all announced they would not participate in the game, as well as safety Shawn Davis and defensive back Marco Wilson.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
missing key players has always been a part of the game

it's called an excuse, when a team doesn't win
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 10:11:48 PM
missing key players has always been a part of the game

it's called an excuse, when a team doesn't win
missing players like this is new. i don't like it. i understand it, but i don't like it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 10:20:36 PM
missing players to COVID is new

not to prepping for the NFL or all the other reasons
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 10:26:57 PM
prepping for nfl is new. it's not first time it's happened, but it's still new. and covid is just exacerbating it. i get the covid reason and generally don't have any issue with that. i don't like nfl prepping, though i understand it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 30, 2020, 10:42:25 PM
Good night, Irene.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 30, 2020, 10:45:02 PM
I bet that Florida wishes that they were putting up 40+ points in a losing effort right about now. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on December 30, 2020, 10:53:11 PM
I'm just waiting for Tommy Frazier to show up and run through them at this point
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
the defense Tommie ran through was light years better than is one
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 30, 2020, 11:04:45 PM
I think I heard Sooner fans chanting, SEC, SEC, SEC
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 30, 2020, 11:10:25 PM
As someone who coaches kids i think there's a psychological loss when one (or more) of your teammates aren't playing.  I see this with my youngsters, and I try to beat it out of them. Woe is us our best player isn't here.  
more chances for you kids.   It can really undermine preparedness and motivation. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 30, 2020, 11:13:39 PM
they just dont play defense in the Big12
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 30, 2020, 11:17:01 PM
The little guy sprinting down the sideline waving a towel with every big OU play is cracking me up.
Are you thinking of RBs coach DeMarco Murray?  He ran down the sideline at least once.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 30, 2020, 11:18:45 PM
Are you thinking of RBs coach DeMarco Murray?  He ran down the sideline at least once.
No, some white dude who’s about 5’8
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 30, 2020, 11:20:53 PM
I think I heard Sooner fans chanting, SEC, SEC, SEC
You did.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 30, 2020, 11:21:27 PM
No, some white dude who’s about 5’8
Heh!  That would not be DeMarco.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 30, 2020, 11:22:52 PM
speaks volumes that Florida has pulled their heisman nominated quarterback
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 11:27:40 PM
I think I heard Sooner fans chanting, SEC, SEC, SEC
conference realignment starting sooner than we thought.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 30, 2020, 11:28:31 PM
conference realignment starting sooner than we thought.
Alabama is joining the Big12?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 30, 2020, 11:51:30 PM
we're in the bigxii se, right? got the o and d (or lack there of) to go with it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 31, 2020, 01:00:16 AM
I think the game meant more to OU than it did to UF.  And UF was down some guys.  We know a bit about that.  The only other time we played the Gators DeMarco Murray was out with injury, incurred on a kick-coverage play in--IIRC--the Big 12 CCG.

But I'm really happy for the win.  We had lost 3 straight CFP semifinals against SEC teams.

A lot of media guys were saying that OU would have been a tough out in the CFP this year.  I don't know about that.  We're a lot better than we were when we suffered 4th-quarter collapses against ISU and KSU to start conference play.  And I think that had we won either of those games, we would have been in the CFP.  But we're still not there, IMO.

We still need the D to get better, and Rattler will be better, more mature, next year.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 31, 2020, 01:13:32 AM
I think OU could beat Notre Dame and be very competitive against Ohio St

Not sure about Clemson or Bama
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2020, 01:34:22 AM
I think the game meant more to OU than it did to UF.  And UF was down some guys.  We know a bit about that.  The only other time we played the Gators DeMarco Murray was out with injury, incurred on a kick-coverage play in--IIRC--the Big 12 CCG.

LOL
Let me put it in a proper context for you.  Imagine your 08 Sooners facing Florida without:
WR Chaney
WR Iglesias
WR Johnson
WR Broyles
TE Gresham
DT McCoy
LB Lewis
CB Franks
S   Jackson
.
Not in terms of talent, man-for-man, but those positions and that aggregate.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 31, 2020, 07:46:40 AM
A trio of games to carry you into 2021

Armed Forced Bowl
12 pm, ESPN
Tulsa v. Mississippi State

Well, this game exists.  Tulsa is a pretty decent team, the runner up the AAC, and checks in at 33 on F+.  Mississippi State decided to play in a bowl game despite going 3-7 and checking in at 77.  It has been a rough year for Mike Leach and crew, and they are actually underdogs in this game.  You never know what you'll get with the air raid, though, and they may be able to sort out an efficient performance for this one.

Arizona Bowl
2 pm, CBSSN
San Jose St. v. Ball St.

Undefeated SJSU gets their chance at an Arizona Bowl National Championship against surprise MAC champs Ball St.  It's going to be an uphill battle for Ball State (72 v. 42) and they mostly have survived on forcing turnovers. SJSU has been a pretty efficient group with strong lines and QB Nick Starkel, who has been named the starter at TAMU and Arkansas before landing here.

Liberty Bowl
4 pm, ESPN
Army v. West Virginia

A late arranged matchup when Tennessee dropped out, we get a good defense in West Virginia against the always fun triple option of Army.  Decent enough on paper (WVU 40th on F+, Army is 55th).  Army struggles against good offensive teams, but that hasn't been West Virginia, so if the score stays low we could get a pretty good game here.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 31, 2020, 08:33:24 AM

Army v. West Virginia

A late arranged matchup when Tennessee dropped out, we get a good defense in West Virginia against the always fun triple option of Army.  Decent enough on paper (WVU 40th on F+, Army is 55th).  Army struggles against good offensive teams, but that hasn't been West Virginia, so if the score stays low we could get a pretty good game here.
I think this game will show why the triple option is a thing of the past in the Big 12

This offense is great if youre ahead but makes it difficult to have to come from behind especially late in the game

Not sure what covid has done to the Mountaineers but if they are healthy this should not be much of a contest
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 31, 2020, 08:48:20 AM
I favored putting OU in the CFP over ND obviously.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2020, 08:56:34 AM
Winning that game was nice and good. It was weird to watch the defense play like garbage, which usually hasn’t happened, and then watch it suddenly decide to save the offense, which played more competently than it has. We are done with the year, and I’m glad it is over for many reasons.
I know the Badgers gave up a lot of yards, but almost 200 of them came on the first two drives, and on the very last drive, with all 2-3 string guys playing defense. In between all of that, the Badgers played pretty solid defense, getting stops when needed, and turnovers. Overall, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on December 31, 2020, 09:18:54 AM
Pro move was breaking the Mayo Bowl trophy, so you don't have to dingy up the trophy case with that.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 31, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
I know the Badgers gave up a lot of yards, but almost 200 of them came on the first two drives, and on the very last drive, with all 2-3 string guys playing defense. In between all of that, the Badgers played pretty solid defense, getting stops when needed, and turnovers. Overall, I'll take it.
I mean, they came out and gave up 9 yards a play to go down 14-0 to a not good team, and after it was tied gave up 10 per play the first drive out of halftime, then 71 more yards.

Looking at the details, 12 passing plays of 15 or more yards, which is a ton. You had 330 yards on 13 big plays, 2.5 YPP the rest of the way. Points per drive was 1.86, which included the garbage time TD. 

It was a tough way to live and angst inducing, but I'll take it. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 31, 2020, 09:35:39 AM
I think this game will show why the triple option is a thing of the past in the Big 12

This offense is great if youre ahead but makes it difficult to have to come from behind especially late in the game

Not sure what covid has done to the Mountaineers but if they are healthy this should not be much of a contest
/Climbs on small soap box that would pitch to a smaller, faster soap box

Why is every damn option team game a referendum on the option? Like, it's a bowl, drawing much meaning from it is kinda silly.

It's especially silly in this bowl. First, this is not a good Army offense. Like, by the usual standards of any option offense, it's kinda dreadful. Second, WVU is not your normal Big 12 team in that it too is bad at offense and good at defense. Three, any time Army plays a P5 team, it should lose. Full stop. This is literally a team that can't recruit players bigger than a certain size. If WVU wins comfortably, nothing should be taken from it other than, this is how it was suppose to go. 

Do I think the option would have some trouble in the Big 12 with the pace, but I think that to a degree is overblown. Option teams are generally underdogs. And when underdogs fall behind by 14-21, they mostly lose. If you're up-tempo, maybe it wins you a game every year or two, and maybe you lose about as many because you can't sit on the ball. Shoot, Bill Snyder played option adjacent football for years, and it was mostly OK to sometimes good. This isn't to say that Oklahoma should start with it, but Kansas? Maybe.

(I mean, lots of offenses look bad all the time, but we're never like, "Look, that one team couldn't manage a high-tempo balanced spread, can't work in that conference")
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 31, 2020, 10:13:25 AM
Yeah, it's not like option football has gone anywhere. Army runs a lot of triple option because they can't recruit guys who can throw and catch very well. Their average recruiting rank is like 115
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 31, 2020, 10:25:51 AM
I know the Badgers gave up a lot of yards, but almost 200 of them came on the first two drives, and on the very last drive, with all 2-3 string guys playing defense. In between all of that, the Badgers played pretty solid defense, getting stops when needed, and turnovers. Overall, I'll take it.


If you take away all of their bad plays, they were awesome. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 31, 2020, 10:32:21 AM
Wisconsin got the V.   Easily.   The rest is just spin.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2020, 10:34:53 AM

If you take away all of their bad plays, they were awesome.
Given that they only had two DL available to them, and one of those came off on a cart, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 10:39:35 AM
/Climbs on small soap box that would pitch to a smaller, faster soap box

Why is every damn option team game a referendum on the option? Like, it's a bowl, drawing much meaning from it is kinda silly.

It's especially silly in this bowl. First, this is not a good Army offense. Like, by the usual standards of any option offense, it's kinda dreadful. Second, WVU is not your normal Big 12 team in that it too is bad at offense and good at defense. Three, any time Army plays a P5 team, it should lose. Full stop. This is literally a team that can't recruit players bigger than a certain size. If WVU wins comfortably, nothing should be taken from it other than, this is how it was suppose to go.

Do I think the option would have some trouble in the Big 12 with the pace, but I think that to a degree is overblown. Option teams are generally underdogs. And when underdogs fall behind by 14-21, they mostly lose. If you're up-tempo, maybe it wins you a game every year or two, and maybe you lose about as many because you can't sit on the ball. Shoot, Bill Snyder played option adjacent football for years, and it was mostly OK to sometimes good. This isn't to say that Oklahoma should start with it, but Kansas? Maybe.

(I mean, lots of offenses look bad all the time, but we're never like, "Look, that one team couldn't manage a high-tempo balanced spread, can't work in that conference")
for example:  Mike Leach's air raid offense is 4th in the SEC and out of the top 15 this season.  Not horrible, but not up to his standard.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 31, 2020, 10:46:14 AM
LOL
Let me put it in a proper context for you.  Imagine your 08 Sooners facing Florida without:
WR Chaney
WR Iglesias
WR Johnson
WR Broyles
TE Gresham
DT McCoy
LB Lewis
CB Franks
S  Jackson
.
Not in terms of talent, man-for-man, but those positions and that aggregate.
I didn't know that UF was missing 9 starters last night.  Is that right?
In any event, most of them chose to skip it.
I sure didn't get ESPN having Pitts on there rambling on and on wishing his teammates well.  You wish your teammates well?  Show it with your actions, not empty words.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 31, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
I didn't know that UF was missing 9 starters last night.  Is that right?
In any event, most of them chose to skip it.
I sure didn't get ESPN having Pitts on there rambling on and on wishing his teammates well.  You wish your teammates well?  Show it with your actions, not empty words.
Definitely sucks for Trask, whose stock probably took a big hit
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 10:57:32 AM
his teammates didn't seem to give a shit
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 31, 2020, 11:11:58 AM
How many Florida starters were absent because they opted out and how many missed because of injury
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 31, 2020, 11:18:26 AM
OSU hardly has anyone opt out. Brandon Roby is the only one that jumps to mind. 

If your players cannot wait to get the hell out of there, that's a problem.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 31, 2020, 11:21:02 AM
I think bowls should get some sort of player assurance of participation and the right not to invite

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 31, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
I think nearly all the starters opted out to prep for the combines and not get injured.

It wasn't COVID related.

Trask hurt his stock obviously.  OU did a nice job of jumping routes.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
for example:  Mike Leach's air raid offense is 4th in the SEC and out of the top 15 this season.  Not horrible, but not up to his standard.
msu is 2nd to last in scoring offense and bottom half in total offense. they're 5th in passing offense, which i guess is good since they basically forgo trying to run at all.

don't get me wrong, i think hes a good coach and will do fine in sec. but they were pretty bad this year and easy to shut down with a simple 8 man zone drop. virtually every team did it to him after lsu game and they were shut down.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2020, 11:30:53 AM
I think bowls should get some sort of player assurance of participation and the right not to invite


this year aside (i'm fine with player s opting out for covid reasons) i think once you make a commitment to the team you should honor it. i get wanting/needing to protect your future, and i can respect that. but i'm really big on keeping your word and commitments.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2020, 11:33:10 AM
I think the game meant more to OU than it did to UF.  And UF was down some guys.  We know a bit about that.  The only other time we played the Gators DeMarco Murray was out with injury, incurred on a kick-coverage play in--IIRC--the Big 12 CCG.

But I'm really happy for the win.  We had lost 3 straight CFP semifinals against SEC teams.

A lot of media guys were saying that OU would have been a tough out in the CFP this year.  I don't know about that.  We're a lot better than we were when we suffered 4th-quarter collapses against ISU and KSU to start conference play.  And I think that had we won either of those games, we would have been in the CFP.  But we're still not there, IMO.

We still need the D to get better, and Rattler will be better, more mature, next year.
i don't know what all ou has coming back, but they look to be one of the major contenders coming into 2021. uf was missing a lot, but i'm not sure it mattered with the way ou was playing. closer game for sure, but ou probably still wins fairly convincingly. 10-14 points or so.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 31, 2020, 11:33:14 AM
AS a player, I would opt out were I draftable.  As a fan, I dislike it of course, but it makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on December 31, 2020, 11:35:59 AM
AS a player, I would opt out were I draftable.  As a fan, I dislike it of course, but it makes sense to me.
I've always questioned how a bowl game is any more of an "exhibition" than a November game between a couple of 7-4 teams.  I think this season, with COVID reasons, has opened the door to that going forward.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on December 31, 2020, 11:39:35 AM
I'd guess 7-4 teams won't have that many draftable players, and the 1 or 2 they do have would likely be trying to improve their draft stock.

Do you think Trask should have opted out last night?  After the fact, yes.  He may have dropped into the 2nd round.

We saw the Oklahoma State RB opt out very early this year, I think to avoid risk of injury.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2020, 11:49:36 AM
AS a player, I would opt out were I draftable.  As a fan, I dislike it of course, but it makes sense to me.
i can't say i blame them, especially with millions on the line. but i'm not sure it's a good thing either.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 11:52:48 AM
plays can and do, quit on their team whenever they like for any reason

I'm not much for quitters
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 31, 2020, 12:03:34 PM
OSU hardly has anyone opt out. Brandon Roby is the only one that jumps to mind.

If your players cannot wait to get the hell out of there, that's a problem.
Denzel Ward.  

ROBY Was painful because we didn’t have anyone to cover Sammy Watkins and he killed us
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 12:12:30 PM
OSU hardly has anyone opt out. Brandon Roby is the only one that jumps to mind.

If your players cannot wait to get the hell out of there, that's a problem.
Could have used him vs Clemson and Taj Boyd/Sammy Watkins,they lost 40-35.He sat out,Shazior played Hurt and Fr phenom Noah Spence with 8 sacks was out.He had more than even Joey Bosa.Braxton played with a hurt shoulder that he reinjured in 2014 training camp.Somehow Clemson always has our Voodoo Doll
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 31, 2020, 12:32:16 PM
I'd guess 7-4 teams won't have that many draftable players, and the 1 or 2 they do have would likely be trying to improve their draft stock..




Seems like every team in the league has a few guys from the MS schools, and they are perennial 7-5 teams. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Cindy picked up some Sauer Kraut balls and Beef Taquitos(evidently a rolled up taco) - just came out of the oven,not a bad combo at all
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 01:19:07 PM
where do you buy the Sauer Kraut balls???  never heard of them

I see recipes on-line but none for sale
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 31, 2020, 01:25:12 PM
where do you buy the Sauer Kraut balls???  never heard of them

I see recipes on-line but none for sale


They are like Rocky Mountain Oysters, only instead of sheep it is a Germanic bloke with a poor disposition. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 01:29:30 PM
where do you buy the Sauer Kraut balls???  never heard of them

I see recipes on-line but none for sale
Seriously,these were from the frozen section but local grocers make them by hand.I'm sure if you have a Krogers or even an Aldi's should have them in the freezer section.These have ham/kraut worcestershire & soy sauce,seasoned & breaded - damn good
Edit-Cindy said she hasn't seen them around for a while,maybe only dragging them out for New Years.I remember my mom making them back in the day
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
dern, might have to make my own

bowling for Kraut Balls!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ364lcjVNh4xLxBMSABWI-_1MeVtIl50XVag&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everyone’s situations are different but I’m not the opt out kind of guy. I stayed for my senior year after being a projected first round pick. I loved my team. I loved competing. Opting out to me = quitting. Not in my DNA. <a href="https://t.co/jSb9Mnh6zn">https://t.co/jSb9Mnh6zn</a></p>&mdash; David Pollack (@davidpollack47) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidpollack47/status/1344644873044037632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 01:49:18 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/82318339.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 01:49:57 PM
dern, might have to make my own

bowling for Kraut Balls!

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ364lcjVNh4xLxBMSABWI-_1MeVtIl50XVag&usqp=CAU)
Atta Boy have at it,wish I had mom's old recipe's.Cindi may have something,I'll let you know but the web's your friend
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 31, 2020, 01:59:15 PM
I've always questioned how a bowl game is any more of an "exhibition" than a November game between a couple of 7-4 teams.  I think this season, with COVID reasons, has opened the door to that going forward.
It isn't. But that just taps into norms. If a coach quits on his team for a bowl, NBD. If he does in November, it's a thing.

The opt-outs felt like sort of a cascade of more information. We saw high-profile injuries in big bowls. We saw the NFL didn't care if they did it. Mix that with a little bravado of "only the best guys do it, and that's the kind of player I am," and it happens. Shoot, one of UW's best players of the 2000s got through three seasons, then just exploded his knee in drills. Actually, come to think of it, another really good Badger tore an ACL at the senior bowl. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 31, 2020, 02:06:32 PM
Cindy picked up some Sauer Kraut balls and Beef Taquitos(evidently a rolled up taco) - just came out of the oven,not a bad combo at all
Yeah, a taquito is a rolled taco, usually deep fried. Common out here for Baja Mexican food... I don't know if they're all that common in Tex-Mex. 

Anyone have a good recipe for these sauerkraut balls? I think that could be a fun project.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: fezzador on December 31, 2020, 02:11:25 PM
If a player wants to opt out, he needs to make the decision before September 1st.  Either sit out the whole season and give someone else your scholly, or honor your scholarship and play every game that you're able. 

The NFL is a brutal business.  Yes, no player deserves to get hurt, but THOUSANDS of *healthy* players don't make it in the League.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 31, 2020, 02:14:32 PM
Welp, I’m in for the year.  Ran some errands for my wife, got my son and me a haircut, and then did my cardio (dropped 12 pounds since Sunday).  My wife wants to do a meat and cheese board with fruit, and some wine.  Not my preferred beer and wings but I can roll with it.

Settling in by the fireplace and already started in on the wine.  Tulsa just scored, btw.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 02:19:34 PM
rooting for the Hurricane

my brother has the Pirate
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 31, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Welp, I’m in for the year.  Ran some errands for my wife, got my son and me a haircut, and then did my cardio (dropped 12 pounds since Sunday).  My wife wants to do a meat and cheese board with fruit, and some wine.  Not my preferred beer and wings but I can roll with it.

Settling in by the fireplace and already started in on the wine.  Tulsa just scored, btw.
Wine, a fireplace, and football is always a heck of a capper
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on December 31, 2020, 02:41:27 PM
Ball State races out early vs undefeated SJSU.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 02:45:36 PM

Anyone have a good recipe for these sauerkraut balls? I think that could be a fun project.
I remember mom made them with pork sausage but don't have her increments available
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/139183/scrumptious-sauerkraut-balls/
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
Welp, I’m in for the year.  Ran some errands for my wife, got my son and me a haircut, and then did my cardio (dropped 12 pounds since Sunday). 
Musta been a hell of a haircut
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 31, 2020, 02:52:43 PM
rooting for the Hurricane

my brother has the Pirate
I do not understand why Zach Smith is playing QB for Tulsa.  He is the 3rd-best QB on the team, but he has been the starter all year.
I suspect he has pictures of Phillip Montgomery with a goat.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 31, 2020, 03:12:25 PM
prepping for nfl is new. it's not first time it's happened, but it's still new. and covid is just exacerbating it. i get the covid reason and generally don't have any issue with that. i don't like nfl prepping, though i understand it.
It has changed the whole experience of watching a non-CFP Bowl.  The rest of them are more like pre-season scrimmages for next year's teams or at least can be especially with the new rule allowing redshirts to play.  

Honestly, if I were a coach and my team was in a non-CFP Bowl, I think I'd opt not to play any seniors after the first quarter.  Let them start and play a quarter but then spend the last three quarters seeing what I have for next year and getting my next year guys some live snaps.  That would basically make Bowls into NFL preseason games.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 31, 2020, 03:13:09 PM
OSU hardly has anyone opt out. Brandon Roby is the only one that jumps to mind.

If your players cannot wait to get the hell out of there, that's a problem.
To be fair, this isn't really a fair comparison because tOSU has mostly been in CFP Bowls that actually matter.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2020, 03:13:13 PM
If a player wants to opt out, he needs to make the decision before September 1st.  Either sit out the whole season and give someone else your scholly, or honor your scholarship and play every game that you're able. 
This is where we're headed.  Bosa showed you don't need to play any more, once you've shown you're dominant.
That Penn St LB and LSU's WR Chase will both hold their draft position and once that happens, players who show flashes as a FR and dominate as a SO, will simply sit out and get drafted the following spring.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2020, 03:14:29 PM
Sourkraut balls sound horrendous.  Kraut is one of those foods that I don't just dislike, but that I can't fathom how anyone likes it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 31, 2020, 03:15:44 PM
Do you think Trask should have opted out last night?  After the fact, yes.  He may have dropped into the 2nd round.
I think he should have, but it is conditional.  Once all those WR's opted out he should have as well because what happened last night wasn't really all that surprising.  

I'd say if you were a RB expected to go in the 1st round and three of your OL decided to opt out, BAIL!  You don't want to show NFL scouts what you look like behind a patchwork OL so you need to bail.  Same for a QB with no experienced WR's or no experienced OL, etc.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2020, 03:25:27 PM
The team Florida put out there was a disservice to OU.  It converted it into a spring-time jamboree type game.  If it was just backups, that'd be one thing, but there were many players out there getting their first game action of the season.  I'm not saying it's why Florida lost, OU played great and earned the win, for sure.
But I'm sure OU fans would have loved to have beaten the real Florida team even more.  There were other guys out that I didn't know about even as the game started.  
But as long as the OU players enjoyed themselves, then I guess it's no harm done.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 03:30:02 PM
Sooners got more enjoyment than Hawkeye players
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 03:32:39 PM
Honestly, if I were a coach and my team was in a non-CFP Bowl, I think I'd opt not to play any seniors after the first quarter.  Let them start and play a quarter but then spend the last three quarters seeing what I have for next year and getting my next year guys some live snaps.  That would basically make Bowls into NFL preseason games. 
why even go that far.  I wouldn't even have the seniors and others that weren't going to play the following season practice for the bowl.
Give all the practice reps and game reps to the guys coming back.
Let the seniors pick up their gift bag, eat well, go out on the town (no curfew).
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2020, 03:36:17 PM
Who's providing the condoms?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 03:36:55 PM
And the Pirate snatches the Armed Forces booty.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2020, 03:45:45 PM
Sourkraut balls sound horrendous.  Kraut is one of those foods that I don't just dislike, but that I can't fathom how anyone likes it.
it requires a very refined pallet
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Bad scene .
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 31, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
Sourkraut balls sound horrendous.  Kraut is one of those foods that I don't just dislike, but that I can't fathom how anyone likes it.
Same.  I’m not a very picky eater but I tap out at kraut.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 03:52:40 PM
why even go that far.  I wouldn't even have the seniors and others that weren't going to play the following season practice for the bowl.
Give all the practice reps and game reps to the guys coming back.
Let the seniors pick up their gift bag, eat well, go out on the town (no curfew).
Ya it'll be like the night before the 1st Super Bowl 34 yr old Max McGee got smashed figuring he wasn't going to play.Then starting WR Boyd Dowler reinjured his shoulder practicing. McGee who stayed up partying with 2 stewardesses he met at the Hotel Bar didn't find out until he came stumbling back to his room at 6:30 AM and Bart Starr passed him going to breakfast told him.McGee caught 4 passes all year but had 2 TD grabs and 138 yds receiving total in one of the best perormances in a Title game.The Pack beat the Chiefs 35-10
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 03:55:00 PM
Sourkraut balls sound horrendous.  Kraut is one of those foods that I don't just dislike, but that I can't fathom how anyone likes it.
Same.  I’m not a very picky eater but I tap out at kraut.
Good more for us
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1344745862833041409?s=10 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 03:58:49 PM
Max Mcgee is a legend.  Strangely enjoyable when he was radio analyst for Packers radio.   Also one of the lead owners of Chi-Chis lackluster Mexican chain.   I believe he died after falling off a roof.   He looked like age 50 in that SB.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on December 31, 2020, 04:01:17 PM
He was like oh please no,don't put me in.LMAO.Damn Ball State taking SJST behind the woodshed 27-0 at the half
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 31, 2020, 04:12:22 PM
Ya it'll be like the night before the 1st Super Bowl 34 yr old Max McGee got smashed figuring he wasn't going to play.Then starting WR Boyd Dowler reinjured his shoulder practicing. McGee who stayed up partying with 2 stewardesses he met at the Hotel Bar didn't find out until he came stumbling back to his room at 6:30 AM and Bart Starr passed him going to breakfast told him.McGee caught 4 passes all year but had 2 TD grabs and 138 yds receiving total in one of the best perormances in a Title game.The Pack beat the Chiefs 35-10
I saw this story on some ESPN production (I think it was) and the interview with the guy was hysterical.  He said he saw three balls coming at him so he just caught the middle one, LoL.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 04:50:34 PM
One of the NFL films describes him in either that game or SB II as 'the elderly Max McGee.'   Facenda's smoky voice is perfect for the script.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on December 31, 2020, 05:20:50 PM
It has changed the whole experience of watching a non-CFP Bowl.  The rest of them are more like pre-season scrimmages for next year's teams or at least can be especially with the new rule allowing redshirts to play. 

Honestly, if I were a coach and my team was in a non-CFP Bowl, I think I'd opt not to play any seniors after the first quarter.  Let them start and play a quarter but then spend the last three quarters seeing what I have for next year and getting my next year guys some live snaps.  That would basically make Bowls into NFL preseason games.
Before the final polls starting being after the bowl games, said games were regarded by many as exhibitions.  Could we be going back to that state of mind?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on December 31, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
Heck of a nice drive by Army coming out the half. 21-10
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 06:12:20 PM
Nice to see end zone paint jobs at Liberty Bowl sticking to original schemes. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 31, 2020, 07:13:13 PM
Shew. WVU survives the Knights.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on December 31, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
Stunned they tried the 40yd fg on 4th and 3 with 3 timeouts.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 31, 2020, 08:21:39 PM
Shew. WVU survives the Knights.
now if Iowa St comes through the Big12 will have run the table
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on December 31, 2020, 10:58:54 PM
I get the rationale for opting out, I really do.  There’s still some guys who don’t see themselves as a brand or the sport as a business though.  This is WVU’s Senior All American DT Darius Stills after the meaningless Liberty Bowl.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WVUfootball/status/1344819697401921540?s=20
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 12:48:08 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1344745862833041409?s=10

Deplorable. How many of those SEC thugs get expelled? arrested?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 06:07:42 AM
Way to not get political.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 08:22:11 AM
Happy New Year!  Here come the Big Bois.  

Peach Bowl
Noon, ESPN
Georgia v. Cincinnati

A good matchup on paper (Cincy 7th and Georgia 8th).  Georgia was somewhat unimpressive until they switched to J.T. Daniels at quarterback and seemed to get right on offense.  Cincy brings a balanced offense and strong defense which should provide a good test for the new QB.  Biggest question is whether Cincy, passed over for the playoffs, will really want to be there.  How motivated can they be?

Citrus Bowl
1 pm, ABC
Northwestern v. Auburn

Another good matchup on paper, albeit between worse teams, as NW clocks in at 28 and Auburn 311 on F+.  All Northwestern games are more or less the same thing - they will try to play really sound defense, keep the score really low, and hope to pull out enough points to win the game in the end.  So it will be today - Auburn can score a few points, though they make enough of their own mistakes that it would be surprising if they score at will.  Rock fight engage.

Not the Rose Bowl
4 pm, ESPN
Alabama v. Notre Dame

Here comes the big bois.  Though this is a bit of a mismatch on paper, with Alabama coming in at a healthy #1 while ND is all the way back at 9.  The Irish are well coached defensively and can run the ball and have an experienced quarterback.  You can see a world where they run clock and make just enough stops or turnovers to get a victory.  Just not sure it's this world - Bama has been vulnerable to teams that can shoot it out with them, and that isn't Notre Dame.

Sugar Bowl
8 pm, ESPN
Clemson v. Ohio State

Well, here we go again.  OSU hoping third time is the charm as they take on Clemson again in the playoffs.  Clemson is rightfully favored, as they have the best quarterback in the land and OSU has, uh, not the best secondary in the land.  Conversely, Justin Fields has suddenly looked mortal and Clemson has the best defense in the land.  So I'm not expecting great things, though it feels like OSU is getting a bit more buried than they deserve.  They have pretty good players and the only single digit win was a game where they were up 35-7.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 01, 2021, 10:03:46 AM
Happy New Year all.

Hopefully this one is better.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 01, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
Buckeyes, please beat Clemson.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on January 01, 2021, 11:34:31 AM
Bama please beat Notre Dame
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 11:55:12 AM
https://twitter.com/CitrusBowl/status/1345015218271903745?s=19
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 01, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/3ov9k4FSJH7fYv88Pm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
And the nominees for worst combined uniform schemes are....
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
Bearcat just got a reception using just his knees
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 12:34:18 PM
Bearcats strike.  7-0.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 12:53:33 PM
Bulldogs strike. 7-7
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
And the nominees for worst combined uniform schemes are....
Was just gonna say,if either of these programs are trying to attract recruits IMO they're going about it all wrong
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 01:13:43 PM
These refs don’t seem very good. Bad call not necessarily against either team in particular just bad calls. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 01, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
That was nice!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 01:16:00 PM
Deplorable. How many of those SEC thugs get expelled? arrested?
Kids from both teams need to be disciplined. That one for msu that kicked the dude has had prior incidents. Be curious if leach will do anything. If he doesn’t I’d guess the league will. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 01:27:25 PM
The Fighting Fitzgeralds lead Auburn 7-0 with 8 minutes left in the 1st
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 01:41:34 PM
Unexpected game plan by Northwestern. They aren’t even trying to establish the run. Instead Patrick Ramsey is picking apart a very disorganized Auburn back seven. A number of converted 3rd/4th & Longs where Ramsey has all the time to in the pocket and finds someone drifting open. NW up 14-0 on Auburn nearing the end of the 1st Q.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 01, 2021, 01:41:47 PM
Is it me or has Bo Nix been Auburn's QB for about a decade?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 01:48:49 PM
Well his Dad was the AU QB many years ago.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 02:18:51 PM
Bearcats strike - 21-10
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 02:34:05 PM
Harry Miller out with the covid
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
Man Cincy's defense let's you know it
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 02:57:25 PM
Georgia not dead, forces a turnover and punches it in. 21-16
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 02:59:48 PM
Is it me or has Bo Nix been Auburn's QB for about a decade?


Nix quarterbacks in a gimmicky way that’s almost impossible to develop beyond the impulsiveness we’ve seen for two seasons now. Lots of getting spooked in the pocket and sprinting to the right while losing his progressions before firing downfield at anything moving, often giving his receivers little room to work with against the sideline. There’s no determination from Nix to establish a familiarity to pass downfield - it’s all just react as the pass rush dictates, with the only thing dependably bailing him out is running upfield. Mix is the type of QB that OLs find most difficult to protect.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:03:51 PM
Cincinnati with a fake punt in the 4th quarter of the Sugar Bowl against UGA trying to hold a lead.  WVU fans can appreciate that.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:17:12 PM
Georgia with a nice drive that stalls. 21-19. Heck of a game if you like to see hitting.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:19:15 PM
Sounds like Zach Harrison is out as well
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:28:25 PM
Man- Hudson getting tossed for his stupid targeting for Cinci- has been so costly.  

Kid who replaced him has false started 3 times, and given up 3 sacks, including a strip sack.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:36:25 PM
Georgia D holds.  Getting ready to get the ball back with under 1:30 to play and no timeouts.  FG wins it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:37:50 PM
Georgia with a nice drive that stalls. 21-19. Heck of a game if you like to see hitting.
Yeah, very physical game.  Fun to watch.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
So is the argument that because they played an even game vs 7-2 UGA, Cincinnati should be in the playoff?  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 03:43:14 PM
Sounds like Zach Harrison is out as well
Might as well cancel the damn game,crap Georgia just scored with a flag
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:43:25 PM
So is the argument that because they played an even game vs 7-2 UGA, Cincinnati should be in the playoff? 
The argument is they should be in the playoff because they are a good undefeated team. What no longer exists as an argument is they should have been excluded because they can't compete.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:44:09 PM
So is the argument that because they played an even game vs 7-2 UGA, Cincinnati should be in the playoff? 
I haven’t seen that argument made on here.  Are you making it?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:45:58 PM
Hell of a game
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:47:27 PM
I haven’t seen that argument made on here.  Are you making it?
Stirring the pot as usual.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: EastAthens on January 01, 2021, 03:47:41 PM
Kudos to Cinci. That is a good, hard hitting football team.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:49:43 PM
Man- Hudson getting tossed for his stupid targeting for Cinci- has been so costly. 

Kid who replaced him has false started 3 times, and given up 3 sacks, including a strip sack. 
Gave up another sack to end the game.  Feel bad for the kid.  He just got exposed from the second he came in.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:49:46 PM
The argument is they should be in the playoff because they are a good undefeated team. What no longer exists as an argument is they should have been excluded because they can't compete.
We have evidence that they can compete with a 7-2 Georgia team with 5 opt-outs that knew it wasn't going to win its division back in early November.  You want them playing Clemson? 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 01, 2021, 03:50:10 PM
Yeah, Fickle has them really playing tough.  UGA was obviously lucky to win after making a lot of mistakes eaerlier.

That last FG was a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:50:55 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/57/85/2f/57852f050992608fd333477e3eff2097.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:52:32 PM
We have evidence that they can compete with a 7-2 Georgia team that knew it wasn't going to win its division back in early November.  You want them playing Clemson? 
Why not?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:53:47 PM
For the same reason there are weight classes in boxing and MMA?  How many opt-outs did Cinci have?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:54:48 PM
For the same reason there are weight classes in boxing and MMA?  How many opt-outs did Cinci have?
They were missing their starting center they’re starting running back and they’re starting safety. Also the best office of Lyman got ejected for targeting and his replacement gave up three sacks and committed 3 offsides
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:55:10 PM
Fun game to watch, though.
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See, if I made your argument, people would pile on and bash me.  Cinci belongs in the playoff because they had the 4th-best SEC on the ropes!  Get out of here.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 01, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
I was impressed obviously with how well UC played the run.  Daniels was a bit off with his passing I thought, and UGA made some early bad mistakes.  But it wasn't as if UGA somehow dominated the line play, their defense found something after that long run to start the 2nd half.  UC should not drop much in the rankings in my view.

I also thought both teams were playing hard and to win, no exhibition there.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:55:30 PM
They were missing their starting center they’re starting running back and they’re starting safety. Also the best office of Lyman got ejected for targeting and his replacement gave up three sacks and committed 3 offsides
their


So you're saying the G5 team has depth issues?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 03:55:44 PM
For the same reason there are weight classes in boxing and MMA?
I mean, Clemson would be rightly favored. But they are favored by tonight. Maybe OSU should quit now, about the same argument as Cincinnati shouldn't be allowed to play. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 03:56:22 PM
Fickell probably going to take some criticism for that last UC offensive possession.  Didn’t use all of the play clock on a couple plays  and then threw the ball downfield on 3rd and 2 with UGA having no timeouts.

He definitely gave the Dawgs some extra time to play with.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:57:32 PM
I mean, Clemson would be rightly favored. But they are favored by tonight. Maybe OSU should quit now, about the same argument as Cincinnati shouldn't be allowed to play.
You're not good at this.
.
A blueblood gets into the playoff having played far fewer games than everyone else, and because one team is a favorite and the other an underdog, you're linking OSU with Cincinnati?

Yeah, you're not good at this at all.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:58:10 PM
I guess the real question is, do we think Cinci could hang with the 4th ranked team, Norte Dame? 

I think they answered that.  

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 03:59:19 PM
I guess the real question is, do we think Cinci could hang with the 4th ranked team, Norte Dame?

I think they answered that. 


Not if 6 other teams could hang with ND, too.  LOL
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:59:24 PM
You're not good at this.
.
A blueblood gets into the playoff having played far fewer games than everyone else, and because one team is a favorite and the other an underdog, you're linking OSU with Cincinnati?

Yeah, you're not good at this at all.
He is making way more sense than you. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Not if 6 other teams could hang with ND, too.  LOL
Since everybody’s wondering I’ll just ask: what the hell are you trying to say? What argument are you trying to start?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:01:07 PM
Here, let me ask this - we know in college basketball, all the mid-majors get in and there are Cinderella stories and this and that.  Gonzaga has worked its way up to a 1-seed from time to time, etc.  

Have any of those mid-majors won a NC?  Given a fair shot year after year after year, have any of them actually won it all?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:01:32 PM
Fickell probably going to take some criticism for that last UC offensive possession.  Didn’t use all of the play clock on a couple plays  and then threw the ball downfield on 3rd and 2 with UGA having no timeouts.

He definitely gave the Dawgs some extra time to play with.
Ya I was thinking the same thing,specially with the sacks and stopping the clock.But he may have thought that's what the Dawgs were thinking

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:02:30 PM
He is making way more sense than you.
So by citing the ultimate "helmet team" advantage OSU has benefited from this season, he's making a good argument for Cincinnati's inclusion???    
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I hope like hell you never agree with me, ever....because then I'd know I was wrong.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:03:50 PM
Ya I was thinking the same thing,specially with the sacks and stopping the clock.But he may have thought that's what the Dawgs were thinking


(https://i.imgur.com/lPaPidj.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 04:04:02 PM
So by citing the ultimate "helmet team" advantage OSU has benefited from this season, he's making a good argument for Cincinnati's inclusion???   
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I hope like hell you never agree with me, ever....because then I'd know I was wrong.
We pretty much count on you always being wrong. However to defend you I can’t say you’re on here because I don’t think I know what the hell you’re even saying? You’re comparing basketball football??? What?

And this post here of yours. What the hell are you talking about that’s not what Sam was saying at all. He was basically saying that by your logic Ohio State shouldn’t even be playing tonight because they’re not favored.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:04:57 PM
Right.  An absurdity.  Thank you.  
He's convoluted what I've said and restructured it as an absurdity.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:05:01 PM
their


So you're saying the G5 team has depth issues?
Evidently so does Clemson if they had to quit testing before the opposition.And we all know firm you are about taking covid seriously
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:10:43 PM
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I hope like hell you never agree with me, ever....because then I'd know I was wrong.
Reduced to stealing others lines - sad
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 04:11:35 PM
Let's all move on.   We've got to make room for hand wringing over the Rose Bowl logo at JerryWorld.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 04:11:40 PM
You're not good at this.
.
A blueblood gets into the playoff having played far fewer games than everyone else, and because one team is a favorite and the other an underdog, you're linking OSU with Cincinnati?

Yeah, you're not good at this at all.
Buddy I'm not the one arguing recruiting rankings deserve more merit than results on the field.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 04:12:37 PM
Here, let me ask this - we know in college basketball, all the mid-majors get in and there are Cinderella stories and this and that.  Gonzaga has worked its way up to a 1-seed from time to time, etc. 

Have any of those mid-majors won a NC?  Given a fair shot year after year after year, have any of them actually won it all?
Yep. UNLV is pretty notable.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 04:13:10 PM
Buddy I'm not the one arguing recruiting rankings deserve more merit than results on the field.
😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:13:42 PM
Buddy I'm not the one arguing recruiting rankings deserve more merit than results on the field.
Calling him Buddy might encourage him
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:15:03 PM
Buddy I'm not the one arguing recruiting rankings deserve more merit than results on the field.
Dishonest.
Fill in the blank:  Cincinnati's best win was against ________.

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:19:42 PM
Yep. UNLV is pretty notable.
A preseason #1 team is a mid-major?  And that was put on probation soon after?  That's your example?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 04:25:03 PM
btw, Cincinnati had the same chance at being in the playoff in August as it did a week ago.  If your outrage is genuine, maybe bring it up before the season starts?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 01, 2021, 04:26:08 PM
Fickell probably going to take some criticism for that last UC offensive possession.  Didn’t use all of the play clock on a couple plays  and then threw the ball downfield on 3rd and 2 with UGA having no timeouts.

He definitely gave the Dawgs some extra time to play with.


Luke beefed it. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 04:27:12 PM
A preseason #1 team is a mid-major?  And that was put on probation soon after?  That's your example?
Well what on earth is your definition of a mid-major?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:28:55 PM

Luke beefed it.
Prolly,nothing ventured,nothing gained
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 04:29:35 PM
btw, Cincinnati had the same chance at being in the playoff in August as it did a week ago.  If your outrage is genuine, maybe bring it up before the season starts?
Well again, I'm into results on the field, not anointing champions before the games start. I feel I've been consistent on this issue.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 04:31:02 PM

I kinda get the idea that's why the play the games.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 04:39:04 PM
I did not have northwestern kicking auburns ass on my bingo card
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 04:39:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1344745862833041409?s=10

Each member Game Day called out the Pirate and Miss St. for their thuggish behavior. Herbstreit went so far to call this the biggest black eye for the sport and for Fines, Suspensions, and Arrests for the cleat stomping Miss St. players were cowardly doing. 

Miss St. Fans were chanting $EC $EC as the brawl was taking place; pretty sure they were bragging about the thugs in the $ec conference. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 01, 2021, 04:40:09 PM
Did the announcer just say Notre Dame believes they're more physical than Alabama?

Someone has been hitting the communion wine too hard in South Bend...
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 04:42:23 PM
A preseason #1 team is a mid-major?  And that was put on probation soon after?  That's your example?
So, mid-majors aren’t deserving of rankings high enough to get in the playoffs but as soon as they get a high ranking they are no longer a mid-major?  There’s no wonder you never lose an argument with that logic.  That’s air tight! Lol.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 05:02:02 PM
I did not have northwestern kicking auburns ass on my bingo card
Game seemed like an easy NW bet.  I probably didn't expect to see the offensive production but they were the proper favorite.   
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
Game seemed like an easy NW bet.  I probably didn't expect to see the offensive production but they were the proper favorite. 
Oh I agree but did not expect them to to put up 35 and 450 yards. That's their best offensive game since their first game against Maryland
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 05:11:12 PM
That was a TD
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
ND gets in. If only they could get a stop.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
Did the announcer just say Notre Dame believes they're more physical than Alabama?

Someone has been hitting the communion wine too hard in South Bend...
That or the Arch Bishops Liquor Cabinet
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 05:19:33 PM
A preseason #1 team is a mid-major?  And that was put on probation soon after?  That's your example?
Kentucky and Louisville have never been?Why do you think Tarkanian said The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland State 2 years.What about Villanova back in the day,put that thing out you'll burn your fingers
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 05:19:59 PM
Devonta Smith gets banged up scoring a touchdown, which looks to be the only way to slow him down
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
I did not have northwestern kicking auburns ass on my bingo card

Kudos to NW for gutting out a strong Citrus Bowl finish Vs an Auburn team that had pulled the game within 1 (14-13) and had made the defensive adjustments necessary to control the game. NW’s QB wasn’t fazed and brought a lot of headiness to an offense that had sputtered for 1.5 quarters. Nix is a 5 star recruit and gets outplayed by these 3 star NW backfields signed from across the Great Lakes states, who were patiently developed by a great, longer-term planning coaching staff.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 05:36:04 PM
So, mid-majors aren’t deserving of rankings high enough to get in the playoffs but as soon as they get a high ranking they are no longer a mid-major?  There’s no wonder you never lose an argument with that logic.  That’s air tight! Lol.
That's fair, but now we're just gleaming over the fact that they cheated, lol.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 05:39:50 PM
Alabama has a punter?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 05:44:26 PM
That's fair, but now we're just gleaming over the fact that they cheated, lol. 

Eh well so did UCLA and John Wooden is a legend. It's tough out here.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 05:49:19 PM
Irrelevant to the conversation.  Any other tangents you want to explore, do it on your own.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 05:50:18 PM
A preseason #1 team is a mid-major?  And that was put on probation soon after?  That's your example?
The Big West was high major? Interesting 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 05:50:23 PM
Irrelevant to the conversation.  Any other tangents you want to explore, do it on your own.
Oh gee thanks for telling me what I'm allowed to say
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 06:05:17 PM
So is the argument that because they played an even game vs 7-2 UGA, Cincinnati should be in the playoff? 
Cincy had missed out on their big goal. Just couldn’t get fully up for this one. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 06:05:59 PM
Buckeyes down two starters and two regulars

Harry Miller-left Guard, Tyler Friday- Defensive End, plus Master Teague and Zach Harrison.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on January 01, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Buckeyes down two starters and two regulars

Harry Miller-left Guard, Tyler Friday- Defensive End, plus Master Teague and Zach Harrison.
if thats all they are missing then they are lucky
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 06:14:06 PM
Lo, a defensive stop appears
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 06:42:07 PM
That was the oddest use of computer animation I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 06:46:47 PM
When did the throat slash become ok again? ('bama's cb after making the pick, slashes his throat right in front of a ref, and nothing.)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 06:48:46 PM
Really boring game 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 06:59:55 PM
Really boring game
Glad we were protected from having to watch Cincinnati 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:02:02 PM
Glad we were protected from having to watch Cincinnati
A&M would've been a better opponent.  But helmetocity and such.  
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It's as if some people don't learn.....did you all see the graphic of ND in "major" bowls since 2000?  They're not elite, they just have shiny helmets.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:03:48 PM
A&M would've been a better opponent.  But helmetocity and such. 
.
It's as if some people don't learn.....did you all see the graphic of ND in "major" bowls since 2000?  They're not elite, they just have shiny helmets.
Heh pretty sure we've seen how TAMU does against Alabama
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 07:05:49 PM
Good for them

https://twitter.com/Rygi13/status/1345112010078482433?s=19
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:07:44 PM
Good for them

https://twitter.com/Rygi13/status/1345112010078482433?s=19
I agree though not being in the Citrus Bowl seems low on the list of grievances
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:09:04 PM
Heh pretty sure we've seen how TAMU does against Alabama
We saw how Cincinnati did against......TULSA!  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:11:07 PM
We saw how Cincinnati did against......TULSA! 
Yeah we saw a victory. I actually think BYU might have made an interesting matchup, they have a better offense than Cincy (and TAMU)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 07:11:17 PM
I agree though not being in the Citrus Bowl seems low on the list of grievances
When you have a once in a generation season, just to get screwed by a postseason that is selected by helmet status rather than accomplishment, I don't blame them.  Hell, they should have been ina NY6 bowl
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
When you have a once in a generation season, just to get screwed by a postseason that is selected by helmet status rather than accomplishment, I don't blame them.  Hell, they should have been ina NY6 bowl
Helmet status of Northwestern? They should have been in an NY6 bowl. Could have replaced Florida.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
You guys don't think they've have gotten the Citrus or NY6 if their QB was healthy?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:14:57 PM
OMG, there's a Copperfit mask/scarf thing?!?!  Why didn't anyone tell me?!?!?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 07:17:52 PM
A&M would've been a better opponent.  But helmetocity and such. 
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It's as if some people don't learn.....did you all see the graphic of ND in "major" bowls since 2000?  They're not elite, they just have shiny helmets.
You're saying in this game?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:20:19 PM
You guys don't think they've have gotten the Citrus or NY6 if their QB was healthy?
Maybe, though it's hard for me not to be super jaded on how these games are selected. No network wants to broadcast Indiana over a helmet or helmet adjacent team
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
But like you said, N'Western isn't sexy.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:24:59 PM
But like you said, N'Western isn't sexy.
True, but I didn't think Northwestern was undeserving of the nod either
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:26:28 PM
Would you put Indiana in over <gasp> Cincinnati?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:26:35 PM
Touchdown Irish we got this boys
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 01, 2021, 07:26:49 PM
Helmet status of Northwestern? They should have been in an NY6 bowl. Could have replaced Florida.
Word
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 07:28:20 PM
Backdoor 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
Oh NOW Bama can't field an on-side kick......fml
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:28:52 PM
Would you put Indiana in over <gasp> Cincinnati?
No
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 07:33:30 PM
Would you put Indiana in over <gasp> Cincinnati?
Would throw UNC out. Oregon is the other outlier, but there's a reason for that.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:35:44 PM
Would throw UNC out. Oregon is the other outlier, but there's a reason for that.
I keep forgetting about ND in the ACC. 3 ACC teams is ridiculous 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 07:42:42 PM
I keep forgetting about ND in the ACC. 3 ACC teams is ridiculous
I don’t mind it if it makes sense. But this one seems silly. UNC is a good team, but that’s still weird. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 01, 2021, 07:47:40 PM
Touchdown Irish we got this boys
Alabama -19.5

That TD ruined and made a lot of peoples' days...
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:48:47 PM
Alabama -19.5

That TD ruined and made a lot of peoples' days...
Great Teams Cover
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 01, 2021, 07:51:34 PM
Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, LSU, UGA, and Oregon will remain the only six teams to have won a CFP game.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:54:54 PM
Harry Miller is good for about 4 boneheaded mistakes a game so I can't say I will miss him tonight. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 07:59:06 PM
Missing Harrison and Friday is a hit at DE though, considering they need to get some heat on Lawrence. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 08:11:41 PM
Helmet status of Northwestern? They should have been in an NY6 bowl. Could have replaced Florida.
Should have been in the NY6 over Florida or North Carolina.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 08:16:47 PM
Honestly feel like the game was much closer than score. ND is a wr or 2 away from being a really good team. Congrats Irish. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 08:22:26 PM
I got Clemson winning this but pulling for osu
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on January 01, 2021, 08:26:20 PM
That was a "little bit" of a push off? Refs gifted Clemson real early.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 08:27:29 PM
Defense, what is it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 08:28:18 PM
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1345167261036789760?s=19
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 08:35:08 PM
Defense, what is it.
Overrated. Let them score quick so we can score quicker.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 08:36:51 PM
That was not a great series. Clemson was confused, so tehy called timeout. Then ran a QB run.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 08:45:34 PM
Well obviously the offense should just be give the ball to Sermon
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 08:57:10 PM
Who do I complain to about the gold '1 and 10' marker that looks like a yellow penalty flag?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 08:59:14 PM
A tight end? OSU came to play
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 09:09:25 PM
Missing Harrison and Friday is a hit at DE though, considering they need to get some heat on Lawrence.

Pleasantly surprised with how aggressive the Buckeyes’ front four is playing against a sometimes overwhelming Clemson OL. So far they are holding up well, and the OSU DL Vs Clemson OL was what I thought was the biggest mismatch going into this game.

And I really like seeing how Day adjusted the offense to start out by operating through Sermon’s running rather than Fields’ arm. It’s a more balanced offense giving Fields more time to find options downfield. I guess Day heard us all yelling during the Northwestern game to put the offense on Sermon’s shoulders.

Entertaining game so far.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
Buckeyes have been saving their tight ends all season
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 09:13:12 PM
Good game. That’s all I was hoping for with this game and what I expected.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: EastAthens on January 01, 2021, 09:14:33 PM
This, at this point looks like it may be a classic
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Clemson is in trouble.  They can’t stop the run.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 09:25:48 PM
I keep waiting for turnovers 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 09:27:56 PM
I keep waiting for turnovers
Shut your face.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 09:31:14 PM
Shut your face.
In any direction, I should've prefaced.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
Karma call via the roid boy?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 09:33:03 PM
The arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 09:33:30 PM
Karma call via the roid boy?
My 7 year olds reaction..."wait, the meathead guy has a twin brother?"
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Does Fields finish the game? 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 09:35:08 PM
Karma call via the roid boy?
And to clarify, I don't think that should be a foul, but Wade's shouldn't have been either, so, ok.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 09:36:15 PM
Neck roll to return to dustbin of history.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 09:38:13 PM
I took a hit like that in HS.   The size of the welt the next day was like a big softball. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Neck roll to return to dustbin of history.
He'll always be the trivia question, who is the only player to be ejected from multiple playoffs
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 09:44:32 PM
Trey Sermon has turned into Walter Payton 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 09:46:17 PM
I dont want to rip OU, but the kid is much stronger this year and demonstrates a lot more balance .
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 09:49:28 PM
Everybody going down 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 09:52:00 PM
Clemson’s defense is bizarrely lost. On that 3rd and 8 it’s inexcusable to give up 9 yards on the ground against a QB limited by obvious injuries.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 09:55:53 PM
That throw by Fields was as good as it gets.  That was a TIGHT window.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Mdot21 on January 01, 2021, 09:57:42 PM
Fields might be better than Lawerence. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 09:58:07 PM
Ohio state gets the ball  to start the 2nd half 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 09:59:42 PM
Is the #11 team the worst Clemson loss since Pitt?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 10:00:16 PM
Should have asked him whether he still thinks osu is the 11th rank team 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 10:03:31 PM
Man, do you play Fields in the 2nd half?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 01, 2021, 10:08:16 PM
Fields is tough, you tell hi he's out.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:20:20 PM
Man it sucks I watched the Indiana game and will now be thinking about that game this whole second half
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:26:03 PM
Ah see
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 10:26:32 PM
Tipped ball.  He was throwing that out the back of the end zone.  

Good defensive play.   
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 10:32:33 PM
That's fair, but now we're just gleaming over the fact that they cheated, lol. 

Who are we kidding here?  That title wasn’t even vacated, like Louisville’s 2013 title was.  All that happened in this thread was you came in here after the UGA game looking for an argument.  You got what you wanted and asked a question about mid-majors winning titles.  You got an answer that you didn’t expect (or had forgotten) and now you are using silly reasons to dismiss it.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:34:15 PM
Ah yes defense what is it again?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 10:35:14 PM
Welp
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:40:46 PM
wut
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 10:42:29 PM
Man, that’s a big first down for Ohio St.  3rd and 11 deep in their own territory and Clemson lets a simple give up swing pass keep the drive alive.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:45:48 PM
Man I love Olave
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 10:47:17 PM
What a throw
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 10:48:10 PM
This game is taking a huge toll on both teams.  

Now we lose our all American Hurd- Wyatt Davis.   Already lost Garrett on the D-line.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 10:49:37 PM
Youch Wyatt Davis hurt
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 10:52:10 PM
Man I love Olave

Olave played that perfectly. Breaks open a defense that isn’t playing the deep ball (not believing that an injured Fields would throw that deep), and let up just enough to catch the pass on his shoulder when the pass wasn’t quite long enough.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 10:52:22 PM
This game is taking a huge toll on both teams. 

Now we lose our all American Hurd- Wyatt Davis.  Already lost Garrett on the D-line. 
Yeah injuries suck. Smith got banged up and Mac twisted his ankle but didn’t come out for bama. And we were already missing our AA center from seccg and waddle from earlier. Looks like smitty and Mac are ok but definitely a scare. 
hope these guys just need a day or 2 to recover after game. Osu is looking damn good. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 10:54:22 PM
I feel bad that Jake Fromm is trending.  Seems like it should be Kirby Smart
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:00:27 PM
Hey replay didn't screw up
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 11:04:08 PM
I hate when injuries force our inexperienced 5* dudes to have to play for our experienced 5* dudes
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:05:09 PM
I hate when injuries force our inexperienced 5* dudes to have to play for our experienced 5* dudes
It's the beautiful struggle
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 11:10:05 PM
Not the same thing but I fish with a guy who lugs thousands of dollars in tackle to the boat.  I always tell him we need scholarship limitations.  He doesn't follow college football and doesn't get it.   Meanwhile, I'm still throwing my last cyclops with one hook left.  Still kick his ass.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 11:11:44 PM
Well, I’m looking forward to Ohio St-Bama.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:13:27 PM
Hey hey Jameson Williams. Also hasn't done much this year
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 01, 2021, 11:15:09 PM
Hey hey Jameson Williams. Also hasn't done much this year
Fastest player on the Buckeye team though
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 11:15:54 PM
Feeling good about tonight.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 11:19:53 PM
Twitterati looking to fan flames of IU's decision to remove BIG logo from helmet and replace it with LEO.  Love Each Other.    Man, people are quite bored.  There must be grudges and bad motives.  Seinfeld again with the prescience.  Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 01, 2021, 11:21:11 PM
That was a "little bit" of a push off? Refs gifted Clemson real early.
10x more than the Payne Durham ”push off"...
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:24:16 PM
A gift call there
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Hawkinole on January 01, 2021, 11:26:00 PM
Northwestern over Auburn
Ohio St over Clemson

Big Ten looking strong.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:26:10 PM
Who are we kidding here?  That title wasn’t even vacated, like Louisville’s 2013 title was.  All that happened in this thread was you came in here after the UGA game looking for an argument.  You got what you wanted and asked a question about mid-majors winning titles.  You got an answer that you didn’t expect (or had forgotten) and now you are using silly reasons to dismiss it.
So they didn't cheat?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 11:26:48 PM
Wade gets spun and falls down 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:27:23 PM
So they didn't cheat?
Who cares if they did?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
One day into 2021, but there is more internet unity behind enjoying watching Dabo get his ass handed to him than any other issue in the past year.

In retrospect, a lot of failed 2020 presidential candidates seemed to miss the boat on a Screw Dabo platform.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Riffraft on January 01, 2021, 11:27:44 PM
Northwestern over Auburn
Ohio St over Clemson

Big Ten looking strong.
Game ain't over yet
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:30:38 PM
Kris seems to.  Idk.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 01, 2021, 11:30:42 PM
I will say, Shaun Wade.mayne should have stayed opted out, if NFL Draft stock was his only focus.  I was shocked to see how many postseason honors lists he was on, and this is sort of reaffirming my thoughts


Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:31:08 PM
I'm glad we don't have to see Bama vs Clemson again.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 01, 2021, 11:31:19 PM
I feel bad that Jake Fromm is trending.  Seems like it should be Kirby Smart


One of the more productive, football-centric conversations to come up (as opposed to the contextual Covid related) this season (in November) was how in the world Kirby Smart can do so well at so many facets of head coaching - recruiting, motivating, navigating the SEC, winning the fans over, not giving an inch on defense - but somehow so obviously miss the mark when it comes to reading and developing QBs.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 11:31:48 PM
So they didn't cheat?
Asperger Afro Man with his laser mis guided focus can't stop his trolling.


Guys it's a disorder, he can't ever let this go, or say he is wrong. Just ignore him till he fixates on something else.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:33:09 PM
I will say, Shaun Wade.mayne should have stayed opted out, if NFL Draft stock was his only focus.  I was shocked to see how many postseason honors lists he was on, and this is sort of reaffirming my thoughts
I think he's a really good football player, but he's not a lockdown corner and trying to be one isn't great for his football future. As a safety/linebacker hybrid, which is a thing these days, he's an ace.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:33:41 PM
I feel bad that Jake Fromm is trending.  Seems like it should be Kirby Smart

None of it's fair, which makes  sense that it's happening on the interwebs.  Smart simply went with the incumbent and the old adage, "if it' ain't broke, don't fix it."
90% of voters do the same every 2 years, no matter how upset they are.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:35:22 PM
Asperger Afro Man with his laser mis guided focus can't stop his trolling.


Guys it's a disorder, he can't ever let this go, or say he is wrong. Just ignore him till he fixates on something else.
The blame for the MSU-Tulsa brawl was on the one side you say so.
Kris and I prolonging a stupid in-thread discussion is the fault of the one side you say so.

Teach us more!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 01, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
Man. Fields is just unreal. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:39:36 PM
Hey defense. There you are
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 01, 2021, 11:39:54 PM
So they didn't cheat?
Honestly, it was so long ago I didn’t remember the specifics but a quick Google search shows me they were put on probation in 1977 which started a long feud between Tark and the NCAA.  There doesn’t seem to be anything related to the 89-90 title winning team.  The title wasn’t vacated either.

So, no, I guess they didn’t. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 11:40:32 PM
I'm interested in how Fields is tomorrow.  When adrenaline is gone.  Hope my lying eyes are wrong and he's ok next week.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MarqHusker on January 01, 2021, 11:41:43 PM
This unlv sidebar is worse than any conference realignment thread i could imagine.   Enough.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 11:43:32 PM
ROAR!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:43:40 PM


So, no, I guess they didn’t.
In the wake of a three-year span where Tarkanian led his hip, high-flying Running Rebels to a 95-8 record, back-to-back appearances in the NCAA Final Four and the 1990 National Championship, the relationship between at least four UNLV players and a notorious east coast organized crime figure and convicted point-shaver resulted in his ouster at the school he put on the map.

Less than two months after UNLV was upset by Duke in the 1991 Final Four, the Las Vegas Review Journal printed photos of notorious New York mob associate, Richard (Richie the Fixer) Perry, socializing in a hot tub and horsing around on his backyard basketball court with Running Rebel stars Anderson Hunt, David Butler and Moses Scurry, accompanied by a scathing expose of his various contacts with the program.

Yeah, you're probably right.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:44:20 PM
ROAR!
According to you, Kris can keep lobbing shots at me, but if I retort, I'm the troll.  It must be fun being you.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:45:50 PM
Brian Kelly quote, frustrated about the narrative that ND is a step below the elite programs, no matter how good their record, "We were right there."  

Yeah, you were right there, losing 31-7.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 01, 2021, 11:49:50 PM
According to you, Kris can keep lobbing shots at me, but if I retort, I'm the troll.  It must be fun being you. 
Clinical Asperger trait.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 01, 2021, 11:53:49 PM
I point out something legit, and you insult me.  Rinse, repeat.  
With no one from the echo chamber to step in.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:56:39 PM
Bada bing. What a win
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 01, 2021, 11:56:50 PM
One day into 2021, but there is more internet unity behind enjoying watching Dabo get his ass handed to him than any other issue in the past year.

In retrospect, a lot of failed 2020 presidential candidates seemed to miss the boat on a Screw Dabo platform.
That and that Carol Baskins killed her husband. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 01, 2021, 11:57:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ramzy/status/1345232615855562752?s=19
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 02, 2021, 12:02:13 AM
Fields is a monster. Hope him and others get over their bangups quickly and we have an epic title game. 
Congrats buckeyes. See y’all in a week or so. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 02, 2021, 12:08:08 AM
Bada bing. What a win
All right Buckeyes, let's win one More.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 12:12:00 AM
Clemson is a pretty good team, and damn if OSU didn't just trample them.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 02, 2021, 12:25:29 AM
All right Buckeyes, let's win one More.
Nah. Sugar bowl champs seems sufficient. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:17:08 AM
Man- Hudson getting tossed for his stupid targeting for Cinci- has been so costly. 

Kid who replaced him has false started 3 times, and given up 3 sacks, including a strip sack.
That was the key play of the game.  What a dumbass!
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 02, 2021, 01:43:06 AM
In the wake of a three-year span where Tarkanian led his hip, high-flying Running Rebels to a 95-8 record, back-to-back appearances in the NCAA Final Four and the 1990 National Championship, the relationship between at least four UNLV players and a notorious east coast organized crime figure and convicted point-shaver resulted in his ouster at the school he put on the map.

Less than two months after UNLV was upset by Duke in the 1991 Final Four, the Las Vegas Review Journal printed photos of notorious New York mob associate, Richard (Richie the Fixer) Perry, socializing in a hot tub and horsing around on his backyard basketball court with Running Rebel stars Anderson Hunt, David Butler and Moses Scurry, accompanied by a scathing expose of his various contacts with the program.

Yeah, you're probably right.
In summary, a school gives up mid-major status when:

1. They have a high preseason ranking, and/or:
2. They were put on probation.

https://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/ncaa-probation-and-division-i-college-basketball/

According to your definitions and this list I estimate there are only  about 6 mid-major basketball programs left in the entire country. 

And the goalposts moved from “They cheated” to “They probably cheated.”





Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:45:17 AM
So, the whole College Football Nation is going to say that Bama's 17-point victory over Notre Dame proves that the Irish didn't belong in the playoff.

Why won't College Football Nation say the same thing about Clemson?
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:46:56 AM
I loved seeing Trey Sermon tear up the Clemson D tonight.

Buckeyes can thank former OU RBs coach Jay Boulware for screwing with him while he was at OU, according to one well-informed Sooner alum.

https://twitter.com/bakermayfield/status/1345217908851564544?s=21
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: TyphonInc on January 02, 2021, 01:59:01 AM
Nah. Sugar bowl champs seems sufficient.
Ohio against the World.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 02, 2021, 02:10:59 AM
So, the whole College Football Nation is going to say that Bama's 17-point victory over Notre Dame proves that the Irish didn't belong in the playoff.

Why won't College Football Nation say the same thing about Clemson?
Because although teams should only be judged on this season and this season alone, they aren’t.  ND was viewed as unworthy as much for their loss to Bama in 2012 as for their loss to Clemson this year.  Clemson’s previous CFP wins gave them as much credibility as any win they got this year.  Is that stupid?  Yes, but short of erasing memories I don’t see it changing.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 02, 2021, 02:23:41 AM
Well I was not expecting that but wow!

Now I just hope the Buckeyes can play that well next week. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 02:39:29 AM
In summary, a school gives up mid-major status when:

1. They have a high preseason ranking, and/or:
2. They were put on probation.

https://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/ncaa-probation-and-division-i-college-basketball/

According to your definitions and this list I estimate there are only  about 6 mid-major basketball programs left in the entire country. 

And the goalposts moved from “They cheated” to “They probably cheated.”
Well...yes.

If Cincinnati cheated and violated recruiting rules to get better players on their team, their program would still be G5 but their roster wouldn't.  Thanks for keeping this tangent going, as I take the blame for it, btw.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 02, 2021, 02:56:19 AM
Well...yes.

If Cincinnati cheated and violated recruiting rules to get better players on their team, their program would still be G5 but their roster wouldn't.  Thanks for keeping this tangent going, as I take the blame for it, btw.
No, I definitely deserve some of the blame. Not to go all 2nd grade but you started it. I mean, this is what you wanted when you posed the question after the UGA game, right?

 The link I posted shows mid-majors have been going on probation for years. UNLV wasn’t the first and won’t be the last.  But because they were more successful than the other ones who got caught doing something you are saying they don’t count as a mid-major.  I guess UT Pan American gets to retain their mid major status because their cheating didn’t result in any winning anything important.

Once again, the years they were put on probation wasn’t the championship year and the NCAA never made them vacate any wins or titles.

Did they probably have recruiting violations with guys on that team? Yeah, probably, but I just assume that goes on to varying degrees basically everywhere.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 02:57:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0wFEEZU.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 03:02:45 AM
No, I definitely deserve some of the blame. Not to go all 2nd grade but you started it. I mean, this is what you wanted when you posed the question after the UGA game, right?

 The link I posted shows mid-majors have been going on probation for years. UNLV wasn’t the first and won’t be the last.  But because they were more successful than the other ones who got caught doing something you are saying they don’t count as a mid-major.  I guess UT Pan American gets to retain their mid major status because their cheating didn’t result in any winning anything important.

Once again, the years they were put on probation wasn’t the championship year and the NCAA never made them vacate any wins or titles.

Did they probably have recruiting violations with guys on that team? Yeah, probably, but I just assume that goes on to varying degrees basically everywhere.
Here, let me just say UNLV was a mid-major who won a NC in 1990.  You can have it, it's fine, no problem whatsoever.  
That's 1.  Ever.  (since mid-majors have been a thing, which is probably 50 years or so - is that fair?  I don't want that to turn into another bitch-fest tangent)
So 1 in 50 years.  Does that negate my larger point?  I say no, but as well can all agree here, I'm never right.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Kris60 on January 02, 2021, 03:33:11 AM
Here, let me just say UNLV was a mid-major who won a NC in 1990.  You can have it, it's fine, no problem whatsoever. 
That's 1.  Ever.  (since mid-majors have been a thing, which is probably 50 years or so - is that fair?  I don't want that to turn into another bitch-fest tangent)
So 1 in 50 years.  Does that negate my larger point?  I say no, but as well can all agree here, I'm never right.
See, that wasn’t so hard, was it? But does the standard really have to be if they don’t win it all it proves they don’t belong? We have seen mid-major programs in the title game in basketball five times since 1998.  We’ve seen numerous mid-majors make the FF in the last 20 years.

I get why they don’t get selected in football but I also get the argument if they are never given a chance how will they prove they can do something in the playoffs.

Btw, we could probably argue about Louisville’s national titles while playing in the Metro but let’s put it to bed.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 03:37:30 AM
If only we, the posters of this board, were the decision-makers, college football would run smoothly, right?  :57:
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2021, 06:39:01 AM
So, the whole College Football Nation is going to say that Bama's 17-point victory over Notre Dame proves that the Irish didn't belong in the playoff.

Why won't College Football Nation say the same thing about Clemson?
History, Clemson has won when in the CFP, ND has not.

History is interesting.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2021, 06:41:11 AM
No one is surprised that Bama beat ND handily, some might be surprised a bit that it wasn't more decisive, but ND has a good team, just not IMHO a playoff caliber team.  At least Oklahoma won their CG.  In my view, a team that loses a CG should be out barring unusual circumstances (nobody else really available).

Yeah, a  team that loses a close one to another great team and is 12-1 might "deserve" it if nobody else appears comparable, but to me the CG is almost a playoff game, one and done.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2021, 06:42:07 AM
I noticed several times Fields downfield looking to throw a block, again, with ribs that must be aching.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 07:44:46 AM
Did I dream that last night?  Am I still asleep?  Am I still drunk?  Anyway, more bowls coming your way.

Gator Bowl
Noon, ESPN
NC State v. Kentucky

Not exactly a thrilling start to the day, as neither of these teams are any good.  NC State took advantage of a soft ACC to go 8-3, but they are just 50th on F+, though still 18 spots ahead of 68th ranked Kentucky.  UK has been useless on offense when facing a good team, and pretty decent when facing a bad team, so I guess we'll see what side of the coin NC State is on.

Outback Bowl
12:30, ABC
Indiana v. Ole Miss

Luckily we don't have to watch the Gator Bowl for long.  Here comes Windiana, 17th on F+, though without Michael Penix.  They face Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss, who check in at a surprisingly low 48th.  They can score, though, the offense is 9th, though they will miss receiver Elijah Moore.  They were able to score on everyone, and so Indiana better bring their adding machines to make this a game.

Fiesta Bowl
4 pm, ESPN
Iowa State v. Oregon

These teams are actually quite good.  ISU checks in at 11 and Oregon at 20, Both these teams are fired up, which is a good thing in a bowl game.  I like both these teams, they both play well on both sides of the ball, though ISU was a bit more consistent against a tougher slate of teams.

Orange Bowl
8 pm, ESPN
TAMU v. North Carolina

Here comes everyone's darling Texas A&M, to take on Mack Brown and the Tar Heels.  F+ loves this matchup, with North Carolina at 12th and TAMU at 14th.  We know what North Carolina is going to try and do - they are gonna go fast and try and score.  TAMU has been a bit weird - they looked dominant in some games and pretty pedestrian in others.  But we should see some points.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 08:47:26 AM
No one is surprised that Bama beat ND handily, some might be surprised a bit that it wasn't more decisive, but ND has a good team, just not IMHO a playoff caliber team.  At least Oklahoma won their CG.  In my view, a team that loses a CG should be out barring unusual circumstances (nobody else really available).

Yeah, a  team that loses a close one to another great team and is 12-1 might "deserve" it if nobody else appears comparable, but to me the CG is almost a playoff game, one and done.
I mean, it’s rare you have the CCG split like that. And TBH, if Oklahoma takes that beating, we’re back to the thing where everyone asks why the Sooners keep getting sent.

Right now, we just don’t have four teams that can keep up with this Bama squad.Such is life.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 08:52:02 AM
I mean, it’s rare you have the CCG split like that. And TBH, if Oklahoma takes that beating, we’re back to the thing where everyone asks why the Sooners keep getting sent.

Right now, we just don’t have four teams that can keep up with this Bama squad.Such is life.
Yeah Brian Kelly had a point - questioning why ND can't beat Bama is probably not the right question
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 09:43:15 AM
Did I dream that last night?  Am I still asleep?  Am I still drunk?  Anyway, more bowls coming your way.
(https://i.imgur.com/3uDq3he.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 09:54:35 AM
the B10 looking good so far NU takes down Auburn.tOSU beats yubba dubba Dabo and going to meet the Tide.Even conference Little Brother Bearcats playing tough
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 02, 2021, 10:11:39 AM
Ohio against the World.
As if the world likes/wants bama to win. Could say same for osu. 
it’s just bama/osu and the world is gonna have to like it. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2021, 10:13:25 AM
Yeah, no doubt, if OU gets in and gets smoked ... or they let A&M in and they lose badly .... same questions.  Why not ND?

I still think if you lose your CG you should be out unless ...

ND lost to Clemson decisively also, not close.

Anyway, on to more and better.  I think OSU has a shot with Bama.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 02, 2021, 10:19:00 AM
I mean, it’s rare you have the CCG split like that. And TBH, if Oklahoma takes that beating, we’re back to the thing where everyone asks why the Sooners keep getting sent.

Right now, we just don’t have four teams that can keep up with this Bama squad.Such is life.
It’s always going to be like this. Even in bcs with only 2 teams it was usually a lopsided game. 

only the 02, 03, 05, 08, and 14 games were within 2 scores. The other 12 bcs title games were lopsided if not blowouts. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 10:46:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/3uDq3he.png)
That was last night. This morning more like:

(https://i.imgur.com/F2lwanY.png)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 10:55:33 AM
Yeah, no doubt, if OU gets in and gets smoked ... or they let A&M in and they lose badly .... same questions.  Why not ND?

I still think if you lose your CG you should be out unless ...

ND lost to Clemson decisively also, not close.

Anyway, on to more and better.  I think OSU has a shot with Bama.
The alternative is not making the title game?

I would’ve sent Cincy and called it done, but short of that, ND had the best argument.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 11:31:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0wFEEZU.png)
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Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 11:36:24 AM
many wanted this 4-team playoff just so that a team that might be deserving got their chance

so, Notre Dame may have been deserving, they weren't, but they got their chance and that's the who;e point of a 3rd and 4th team

heck, back in the good old daze, it would have been #1 vs #2.  Bama vs Clemson

this way Ohio state got their chance to prove they were deserving

worked well for them, not so well for ND

the 4-team playoff worked
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sO3qVUW.jpg)
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 11:48:26 AM
Tom Hermann fired
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on January 02, 2021, 11:54:49 AM
Tom Hermann fired
Looks like it


Im surprised but not shocked


Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 02, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
Down goes Mensa Boi
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: longhorn320 on January 02, 2021, 12:00:04 PM
Down goes Mensa Boi
Expensive decision for UT

But what the hell its only football
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Mdot21 on January 02, 2021, 12:17:08 PM
Thoughts... 

Ryan Day is one of the elite play-callers and QB coaches in the college game. By far.

Brian Hartline is one of the elite WRs coaches in the college game. By far. 

Recruiting 5* OLs helps. NPF and Wyatt Davis sure as hell look like 5 STARZ. 

Larry Johnson Sr is one of the elite DL coaches in the college game. By far. 

Stealing Greg Mattison was a stroke of genius by Day. Damages rival severely while also giving OSU an elite coach.

Michigan isn’t beating Ohio State any time soon. Bout to be another two decades of 2-18.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 12:21:39 PM
https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1345202875656331265?s=19
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 02, 2021, 12:30:38 PM
Tom Hermann fired
7-3 and top 20 finish.   Tough gig.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 02, 2021, 12:39:09 PM
Ole Miss down RB, TE, and 2 WR today accounting for 60% of their offensive yards and 55% of their offensive TDs.

Not sure why (covid, opt out, injury, etc) but that doesn't bode well for them.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:12:42 PM
No one is surprised that Bama beat ND handily, some might be surprised a bit that it wasn't more decisive, but ND has a good team, just not IMHO a playoff caliber team.  At least Oklahoma won their CG.  In my view, a team that loses a CG should be out barring unusual circumstances (nobody else really available).

Yeah, a  team that loses a close one to another great team and is 12-1 might "deserve" it if nobody else appears comparable, but to me the CG is almost a playoff game, one and done.
What do you think about a 1-loss team that loses its CCG for a 2nd loss compared to a 1-loss team that doesn't make the CCG?
Maybe we didn't have 4 playoff-quality teams this year.  Maybe just 2--Bama and tOSU.
If Bama beat tOSU badly, what will that say about Clemson?
I'll be rooting for tOSU, BTW.  Bama/Saban-fatigue.
I suspect that the majority of CFB fans will also be rooting for the Buckeyes, although there will be some/many who want to blame tOSU for the Big Ten's curtailed season and the mid-short-season rules change to get tOSU into the CCG.
I don't care how a conference selects its champion.  Round-robin scheduling or not.  CCG or not.  But the short season was a bad decision and is a bad look, and some fans will see it as a reason to downgrade a tOSU NC.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: ELA on January 02, 2021, 01:13:55 PM
NC State early returns looking on par for ACC this far.

This is why this was the year to just out in all P5 champs.  There was even less reason than normal to know just how "good" any conference was.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2021, 01:17:18 PM
I view the CG as a first playoff round, with few exceptions.  Win your conference.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 01:21:10 PM
What do you think about a 1-loss team that loses its CCG for a 2nd loss compared to a 1-loss team that doesn't make the CCG?
Maybe we didn't have 4 playoff-quality teams this year.  Maybe just 2--Bama and tOSU.
If Bama beat tOSU badly, what will that say about Clemson?
I'll be rooting for tOSU, BTW.  Bama/Saban-fatigue.
I suspect that the majority of CFB fans will also be rooting for the Buckeyes, although there will be some/many who want to blame tOSU for the Big Ten's curtailed season and the mid-short-season rules change to get tOSU into the CCG.
I don't care how a conference selects its champion.  Round-robin scheduling or not.  CCG or not.  But the short season was a bad decision and is a bad look, and some fans will see it as a reason to downgrade a tOSU NC.
You could have let us know that Trey Sermon was a combo of Walter Payton and Eric Dickerson
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:24:05 PM
If we have to expand the CFP, make it to 6 teams.  The P5 conference champs plus the highest-ranked G5 team that has beaten a P5 team.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:37:58 PM
You could have let us know that Trey Sermon was a combo of Walter Payton and Eric Dickerson
He was very good at OU and I really hated to see him leave.  He does seem to have taken it up a notch or three over the last several games.
If you noticed the little twitterstorm involving Baker Mayfield and the now (for the moment, anyway) Texas AHC Jay Boulware, here is the back story.
Sermon left OU because of Boulware.  I don't know whose fault it was, but when you're the RBs coach, and your bell-cow RB wants to leave because of you, you've probably done something wrong.
Boulware was a Bob Stoops hire.  One of the few areas where I think Lincoln Riley has mishandled things is that he kept some of Bob's assistants (including little brother Mikey) on the staff too long.  It took him three years to tell Boulware to look for another job.  But it took Sermon leaving to make Lincoln notice that something was wrong.
I'm firmly convinced that if we had had Trey Sermon this year, we'd have been unbeaten in the regular season.  Of our top 3 RBs from last year, Sermon transferred, Kennedy Brooks opted out due to COVID, and Rhamondre Stevenson was suspended for the first six games.
Stevenson is a lot like Sermon. If he comes back, he could have a monster season in 2021.
BTW, you're welcome for Sermon.  And THANK YOU, Ohio State, for Alex Grinch. I'm really looking forward to seeing our D in Grinch Year 3.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 01:39:56 PM
 But the short season was a bad decision and is a bad look, and some fans will see it as a reason to downgrade a tOSU NC.
if the Buckeyes somehow beat Bama, there will be no downgrading a tOSU NC

this season's Bama squad is perceived as "great"
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 02, 2021, 01:40:46 PM
if the Buckeyes somehow beat Bama, there will be no downgrading a tOSU NC

this season's Bama squad is perceived as "great"
I agree.
But you know how "some fans" are.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 01:41:49 PM
Bama is a 7-8 point favorite.
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 01:42:44 PM
I agree.
But you know how "some fans" are.
well, "those" fans... I don't value their opinion
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 01:52:31 PM
The soap opera between Indiana football and the Big Ten isn't quite over.

IU has removed the Big Ten logos from its jerseys and helmets ahead of Saturday's Outback Bowl against Ole Miss, apparently in response to feeling slighted by the conference in bowl selection.

Indiana coach Tom Allen says that isn't the case.

A few hours after a social media post pointed out IU removed the Big Ten logo from its jerseys and helmets, IU coach Tom Allen released a statement.

"To clarify what we are wearing on our uniform and helmet for tomorrow's Outback Bowl: since I took over as Indiana head coach, this program's mantra has been LEO, Love Each Other. This season has been the most trying we will ever experience, and we felt it was appropriate to showcase LEO, which has carried us through one of the most historic years in Indiana Football history, We did not intend to show any disrespect to anyone. We are a proud member of the Big Ten and are always representing our conference, LEO is the foundation of our program and we want to bring in 2021 focusing on our team and Love Each Other. LEO!"
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 02, 2021, 01:54:54 PM
...and this is the second best team in the Big Ten. Or at least the B1G East. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 02:00:48 PM
He was very good at OU and I really hated to see him leave.  He does seem to have taken it up a notch or three over the last several games.
If you noticed the little twitterstorm involving Baker Mayfield and the now (for the moment, anyway) Texas AHC Jay Boulware, here is the back story.
Sermon left OU because of Boulware.  I don't know whose fault it was, but when you're the RBs coach, and your bell-cow RB wants to leave because of you, you've probably done something wrong.
Boulware was a Bob Stoops hire.  One of the few areas where I think Lincoln Riley has mishandled things is that he kept some of Bob's assistants (including little brother Mikey) on the staff too long.  It took him three years to tell Boulware to look for another job.  But it took Sermon leaving to make Lincoln notice that something was wrong.
I'm firmly convinced that if we had had Trey Sermon this year, we'd have been unbeaten in the regular season.  Of our top 3 RBs from last year, Sermon transferred, Kennedy Brooks opted out due to COVID, and Rhamondre Stevenson was suspended for the first six games.
Stevenson is a lot like Sermon. If he comes back, he could have a monster season in 2021.
BTW, you're welcome for Sermon.  And THANK YOU, Ohio State, for Alex Grinch. I'm really looking forward to seeing our D in Grinch Year 3.
That's interesting I always wondered about the backstory there.  I remember liking Sermon and was surprised he was transferring. I'm also blanking at seeing a guy have a year like he's having.  He was essentially an afterthought in the offense - his total yard numbers were 48, 56, 68, and 60 in the first four games, then 112, 331, and 261 in the last 3.  Hopefully he has one more in him.

You should thank Tennessee fans for Grinch.  He was supposed to replace Schiano, who was going to coach the Vols before they threw a big hissy fit, and then he came back and they did not really work well together, so they both got dumped when Urbs left. 
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Post by: MarqHusker on January 02, 2021, 02:06:23 PM
The soap opera between Indiana football and the Big Ten isn't quite over.

IU has removed the Big Ten logos from its jerseys and helmets ahead of Saturday's Outback Bowl against Ole Miss, apparently in response to feeling slighted by the conference in bowl selection.

Indiana coach Tom Allen says that isn't the case.

A few hours after a social media post pointed out IU removed the Big Ten logo from its jerseys and helmets, IU coach Tom Allen released a statement.

"To clarify what we are wearing on our uniform and helmet for tomorrow's Outback Bowl: since I took over as Indiana head coach, this program's mantra has been LEO, Love Each Other. This season has been the most trying we will ever experience, and we felt it was appropriate to showcase LEO, which has carried us through one of the most historic years in Indiana Football history, We did not intend to show any disrespect to anyone. We are a proud member of the Big Ten and are always representing our conference, LEO is the foundation of our program and we want to bring in 2021 focusing on our team and Love Each Other. LEO!"

As I said many pages ago,  Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon!?  People really need to pick up hobbies.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 02, 2021, 02:10:20 PM

(https://i.gifer.com/1A4b.gif)

Love each other? :57:
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Post by: Kris60 on January 02, 2021, 03:11:58 PM
I have a picture of me wearing a shirt that says Love Each Other while flexing. I was buzzing pretty good in the picture.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 02, 2021, 03:19:06 PM
...and this is the second best team in the Big Ten. Or at least the B1G East.
With Pennix at QB they are a completely different team.  An almost unstoppable offense. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 03:44:11 PM
  And THANK YOU, Ohio State, for Alex Grinch. I'm really looking forward to seeing our D in Grinch Year 3.
Made some big strides this year for sure
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Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 03:48:39 PM
ole miss left the door open
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Post by: MarqHusker on January 02, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
Iowa st going with the anonymous football uniform again.   Boooo.
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Post by: MarqHusker on January 02, 2021, 04:20:49 PM
Jesus.  Philyor with 18 catches...for 81 yards.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 04:51:51 PM
Wow, #8 just went on the road and thrashed #3, who never loses at home!  Huge game!!!  
Wait.  Why isn't it making any headlines?  Why doesn't anyone seem to care?  
Ohhhhh, that's right, it's college basketball's regular season.  
.
Be wary, bigger-playoff-proponents.  
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Post by: LittlePig on January 02, 2021, 05:08:39 PM
Indiana really let the Big Ten down.  The Big Ten had a good story going this Bowl season until Indy lost. 

Oh well, the Big Ten will always have New Year's day to look back on.  Oh and maybe, maybe just maybe, OSU can still snag a national championship too.
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Post by: ELA on January 02, 2021, 06:30:30 PM
I used to be Mr watch every bowl, and I find myself more into this Purdue Illinois basketball game, than a New year's six bowl. I have no idea how this is sustainable long term
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Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 06:32:40 PM
Wow, #8 just went on the road and thrashed #3, who never loses at home!  Huge game!!! 
Wait.  Why isn't it making any headlines?  Why doesn't anyone seem to care? 
Ohhhhh, that's right, it's college basketball's regular season. 
.
Be wary, bigger-playoff-proponents. 
I'm terrified and shaken by this reality. When the 30-game football season comes to pass, this will be very concerning. 
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Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 06:35:14 PM
I used to be Mr watch every bowl, and I find myself more into this Purdue Illinois basketball game, than a New year's six bowl. I have no idea how this is sustainable long term
It probably isn't, though probably not for that reason. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2021, 07:09:02 PM
I'm terrified and shaken by this reality. When the 30-game football season comes to pass, this will be very concerning.
You're not too good with ratios and percentages, are you?
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Post by: MarqHusker on January 02, 2021, 07:15:59 PM
I actually have managed to neglect college hoops almost entirely.  I'm always a cliffs notes viewer in any normal season but have not bothered to check in much beyond one or two games so far.   I've been very limited in my bowl consumption. 
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Post by: utee94 on January 02, 2021, 07:16:41 PM
Just got back from a week of camping-- anything new happen?
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Post by: bayareabadger on January 02, 2021, 07:47:08 PM
You're not too good with ratios and percentages, are you?
Enlighten me with your fancy maths, teach.
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Post by: MaximumSam on January 02, 2021, 07:49:06 PM
I actually have managed to neglect college hoops almost entirely.  I'm always a cliffs notes viewer in any normal season but have not bothered to check in much beyond one or two games so far.  I've been very limited in my bowl consumption.
You are safe to skip Nebrasketball this year, but they might give you something next season
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Post by: MarqHusker on January 02, 2021, 07:55:03 PM
Nebraska's track record has not influenced or detracted from my hoops viewing.  In any given year I'd struggle to name 8 players nationwide.  Basketball has just escaped my interest as I get older.  
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Post by: ELA on January 02, 2021, 08:33:09 PM
You are safe to skip Nebrasketball this year, but they might give you something next season
MSU is the cure for the common Hoiberg
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Post by: ELA on January 02, 2021, 08:59:37 PM
Today has been the best day of bowls this postseason.  Defenses finally showing up
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2021, 11:24:22 PM
Just got back from a week of camping-- anything new happen?
.College Football Playoff National Championship saw number 11 defeat number 2.Did you grill out any jackalope or possum on the half shell?Any Yeti's,Sooners or Aggies bother you?
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Post by: ELA on January 03, 2021, 12:35:19 AM
Just in case ACC fans thought the Challenge was their low point.  0-6 in bowls, including the first ever 0-2 performance, 0-3 in NY6 games, with 3 double digits losses.

How is ACC hockey looking this year?
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Post by: utee94 on January 03, 2021, 08:47:32 AM
.College Football Playoff National Championship saw number 11 defeat number 2.Did you grill out any jackalope or possum on the half shell?Any Yeti's,Sooners or Aggies bother you?
No possum.  Made chili for one night.  Grilled strips for another.

Only Aggie there was my wife, only Yetis were full of my beer.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2021, 09:42:52 AM
Just in case ACC fans thought the Challenge was their low point.  0-6 in bowls, including the first ever 0-2 performance, 0-3 in NY6 games, with 3 double digits losses.

How is ACC hockey looking this year?

I really thought Indiana should have gotten a spot over UNC.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2021, 10:16:35 AM
Happy Birthday, Badge!
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Post by: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2021, 11:10:04 AM
Thanks pal.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 03, 2021, 11:38:28 AM
How many birthday lashings are in order? 
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Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2021, 11:57:39 AM
a hole bunch
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Post by: CWSooner on January 03, 2021, 12:18:18 PM
That's interesting I always wondered about the backstory there.  I remember liking Sermon and was surprised he was transferring. I'm also blanking at seeing a guy have a year like he's having.  He was essentially an afterthought in the offense - his total yard numbers were 48, 56, 68, and 60 in the first four games, then 112, 331, and 261 in the last 3.  Hopefully he has one more in him. . . .
Also consider this about Sermon.  He had his ACL injury in November 2019, I think.  A year later, he's fully good to go again, and he really lights it up.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on January 03, 2021, 03:11:03 PM
How many birthday lashings are in order?
54 today.
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Post by: TyphonInc on January 03, 2021, 03:51:31 PM
I really thought Indiana should have gotten a spot over UNC.

Indiana without Pennix, was definitely playing a step down than they played with him at the controls. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on January 03, 2021, 04:07:28 PM
Indiana without Pennix, was definitely playing a step down than they played with him at the controls.
It didn't help that the backup had a separated shoulder
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Post by: TyphonInc on January 03, 2021, 04:45:50 PM
Just in case ACC fans thought the Challenge was their low point.  0-6 in bowls, including the first ever 0-2 [CFP] performance, 0-3 in NY6 games, with 3 double digits losses.

How is ACC hockey looking this year?
On the surface 0-6 is a pretty big black eye for the ACC, and B12 looks great with their 5-0.
 
But I think the CFP boogers stuff up. If the ACC only sent one team, then all the rest of the teams would have a played a step lower bowl match up and prolly would have faired better.
On the converse if OU was invited to the CFP, then each of the B12 teams would have a played a step up bowl, and prolly not faired as well. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 03, 2021, 05:29:42 PM
ND isn't really an ACC team.

The SEC had teams in the Peavh, Orange, and Cotton.  And Bama.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 03, 2021, 05:59:23 PM
ND isn't really an ACC team.

It was this year.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 03, 2021, 06:00:47 PM
On the surface 0-6 is a pretty big black eye for the ACC, and B12 looks great with their 5-0.
 
But I think the CFP boogers stuff up. If the ACC only sent one team, then all the rest of the teams would have a played a step lower bowl match up and prolly would have faired better.
On the converse if OU was invited to the CFP, then each of the B12 teams would have a played a step up bowl, and prolly not faired as well.
Funny how you say this, but when it was true for the SEC, no one here bought in.  Hmmph.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 03, 2021, 06:40:16 PM
Funny how you say this, but when it was true for the SEC, no one here bought in.  Hmmph.
Really? When the Big Ten was more than just OSU + 13 schlubs, we would get two (and a few times three IIRC) teams into BCS bowls. And we always mentioned how it screwed the lesser B1G teams by giving them tougher bowl competition. 
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Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2021, 06:44:45 PM
I suppose conferences could turn down invites to the CFP and the NY6 bowls to try to pad their bowl records

doubt that would buy them much respect

play the games and win the games
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 03, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
Happy Birthday, Badge!

Ya Happy B-Day 857 ;D ,take it easy on the Seafood & Glenlivet 12/Lagavulin 16
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 03, 2021, 06:52:10 PM

How many birthday lashings are in order?
The lasher will need Tommy John Surgery
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 03, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
Been a long week end taking in the games Friday.Then tearing down and packing Cindy's Macy's size Holiday Displays Sat/Sun
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Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2021, 06:57:38 PM
I enjoy and embrace long weekends
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Post by: utee94 on January 03, 2021, 07:05:02 PM
We just got back yesterday afternoon from a week of camping, so I won't bother taking down the decorations until next weekend.  Gonna be a long slow isolation-y January anyway, so plenty of time on the weekends for that.
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Post by: utee94 on January 03, 2021, 07:08:12 PM
Happy bday bf!
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Post by: bayareabadger on January 03, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
Happy Birthday old man! Hope if finds you well with a delicious meal. 
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Post by: Kris60 on January 03, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
Been a long week end taking in the games Friday.Then tearing down and packing Cindy's Macy's size Holiday Displays Sat/Sun
Got the outside stuff taken down today because I don’t want to be the last house in the neighborhood with Christmas stuff still up.  Probably get the tree and inside decorations next weekend.  The first year we were married we had the tree still up past Valentine’s Day. We had better things to do with our weekends.  Ah, newlywed days.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2021, 07:22:44 PM
Happy Birthday old man! Hope if finds you well with a delicious meal.
I hope he allowed someone else to do the cooking
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 03, 2021, 07:28:56 PM
Got the outside stuff taken down today because I don’t want to be the last house in the neighborhood with Christmas stuff still up. 
My next door neighbor usually pounces by June
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Post by: CWSooner on January 03, 2021, 07:46:27 PM
Happy birthday, Badge!
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 03, 2021, 08:57:28 PM
My next door neighbor usually pounces by June


Well yeah, you gotta keep 'em up through Father's Day, don'cha.
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Post by: Cincydawg on January 04, 2021, 09:20:48 AM
Not much about this year has been "typical", but Bama-v-OSU is.

Of course we all know OSU has never beaten Bama with their starting QB healthy.
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2021, 10:09:05 AM
SHUT....UP....YOU!!!
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 04, 2021, 11:01:18 AM
Not much about this year has been "typical", but Bama-v-OSU is.

Of course we all know OSU has never beaten Bama with their starting QB healthy.
That’s good. He sure as hell isn’t healthy now.  
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Post by: rolltidefan on January 04, 2021, 11:16:38 AM
That’s good. He sure as hell isn’t healthy now. 
on a serious note, i hope he is soon. dude played a legendary game.

happy belated bday @847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5) 
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2021, 12:12:56 PM
Of course we all know OSU has never beaten Bama with their starting QB healthy.
That’s good. He sure as hell isn’t healthy now. 
Well played boys,need more smack like the old Big 12 Board - always read that at lunch and when I got home.Before their conference exodus
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Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 04, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
P5 Bowl Records:


Big 12:


B1G:

SEC:

P12:

ACC:

Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 04, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
I think that putting two teams in the CFP REALLY hurt the ACC's record in bowls.  Otherwise they might well have gone 5-1.  
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 04, 2021, 12:42:16 PM
Two completely winless conferences? That's ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2021, 12:48:18 PM
Well it is the 2020 season
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Post by: longhorn320 on January 04, 2021, 01:24:16 PM
P5 Bowl Records:

  • 5-0 B12
  • 4-1 or 3-2 pending NCG, B1G
  • 7-2 or 6-3 pending NCG, SEC
  • 0-2 P12
  • 0-6 ACC

Big 12:
  • Oklahoma over Florida
  • Iowa State over Oregon
  • Texas over Colorado
  • OkSU over Miami, FL
         West Virginia over Army

B1G:
  • tOSU over Clemson
  • Northwestern over Auburn
  • Wisconsin over Wake
  • Indiana lost to Ole Miss
  • tOSU vs Bama next week

SEC:
  • Bama over ND
  • aTm over UNC
  • UGA over Cincy
  • Ole Miss over IU
  • Kentucky over NCST
  • MissSt over Tulsa
  • Florida lost to OU
  • Auburn lost to NU
  • Bama vs tOSU next week

P12:
  • Oregon lost to ISU
  • Colorado lost to TX

ACC:
  • Clemson lost to tOSU
  • Notre Dame lost to Bama
  • UNC lost to aTm
  • NCST lost to Kentucky
  • Miami lost to OkSU
  • Wake lost to Wisconsin


FIFY
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Post by: utee94 on January 04, 2021, 01:26:34 PM
I certainly enjoyed watching Oklahoma State beat Miami.  I'll never shed a tear for the canes.
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Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 04, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
FIFY
I fixed it in the original post.  Sorry about that.  

I did give the B12 credit for the right record, I just neglected to list a game that I actually watched, oops.  
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: utee94 on January 04, 2021, 02:17:11 PM

I fixed it in the original post.  Sorry about that. 

I did give the B12 credit for the right record, I just neglected to list a game that I actually watched, oops. 
Just don't want @Kris60 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=79) feeling left out and diminished, ya know?  :)
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Post by: Kris60 on January 04, 2021, 02:31:13 PM
Just don't want @Kris60 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=79) feeling left out and diminished, ya know?  :)
Thanks.  I have to cancel my plane ticket now.  I was coming to look for Medina. 
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: rolltidefan on January 04, 2021, 02:53:02 PM
I think that putting two teams in the CFP REALLY hurt the ACC's record in bowls.  Otherwise they might well have gone 5-1. 
but they didn't really. nd being a pseudo-member just means in a normal year they'd have been in roughly the same spot as they were now. nd being in playoff didn't really affect their bowl lineup. it'd just be 0-5.
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2021, 02:57:20 PM
Thanks.  I have to cancel my plane ticket now.  I was coming to look for Medina.
He can't be bothered with you.He's looking for Bama fans to piss off.Besides I'd give him safe refuge - as long as he brings the Beer
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: FearlessF on January 04, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
do you have the keys to the sanctuary ??
Title: Re: Bowling for Burgers 2020 SOC
Post by: CWSooner on January 04, 2021, 07:12:56 PM
I certainly enjoyed watching Oklahoma State beat Miami.  I'll never shed a tear for the canes.
I enjoyed it too.
For awhile, I thought Mike Gundy's strategy in that game was to avoid turnovers, cover punts well, and hold on to win 21-20.