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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1

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LittlePig

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2019, 01:35:50 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 03, 2019, 12:55:05 PM
Did any team look notably better, or worse, than you expected?


Wisc,  PSU, MD, IL were better than expected.

Purdue, Minn,  Indy, Neb were worse than expected.

Others did not do much that was "notable"
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2019, 01:42:33 PM »
^^ It's just Week 1.  Putting up 80 on Idaho or Howard tells us more about how bad they are than how good PSU and UMD are.  Illinois was able to put Akron away early, but again, the Zips are probably one of the 10 weakest teams in the FBS division, so even a lightly-regarded P5 team should be able to beat Akron with ease.  The only one that might have been a surprise was how dominant Wisconsin was @ USF, but it's entirely possible that USF is just that bad and might finish in the lower half of the AAC.

On the other hand, Purdue, Northwestern, Nebraska and Minnesota all struggled on Saturday, but all of them are certainly capable of improving and becoming a factor in the West.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2019, 01:42:49 PM »
1) Ohio State: until someone knocks them off.
2) Michigan: turnovers and giving up 21 to MTSU probably aren't what the fans want to see.
3) Penn State: um...79 points. I know it was Idaho, but 79!?!
4) Wisconsin: dominated a respectable opponent on the road.
5) Iowa: 28 points in the second half is pretty nice; 10, and a 3-point lead, in the first half wasn't.
6) Michigan State: three points in the second half probably isn't what the fans wanted, but a 21-point win is a 21-point win.
7) Northwestern: losing on the road to Stanford isn't shameful, but the Cats didn't look good.
8) Minnesota: not a good sign to eek out a win over an FCS team, even a really good one. But a win is better than a loss. 
9) Nebraska: an easy win is a win, but it's not as though Nebraska played a team with a chance.
10) Maryland: 79 points. Not as impressive against Howard as it is against Idaho (?), but still, that's a lot of points.
11) Purdue: going on the road is hard; blowing a 17-point lead against Nevada is bad.
12) Illinois: quietly maybe the most promising result for a Big Ten team of the day?
13) Indiana: a win over Ball State isn't anything for this program to turn its nose up at.
14) Rutgers: 31 points in a quarter is neat, even against UMass, and a win is nice. Giving up 21 points in a quarter to UMass is bad.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2019, 01:51:08 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on September 03, 2019, 01:35:50 PM

Wisc,  PSU, MD, IL were better than expected.

Purdue, Minn,  Indy, Neb were worse than expected.

Others did not do much that was "notable"
I would go with Maryland and Illinois substantially better than expected, Northwestern and Purdue worse than expected. It's not that they lost, it's how they lost. Northwestern's four turnovers and 210 yards of total offense were brutal. No passing threat, no running threat, but to be fair the defense played well. Purdue's five turnovers=very bad. It's inability to run the ball with a 17-point lead, also very bad.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2019, 02:13:40 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on September 03, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
Wisc,  PSU, MD, IL were better than expected.

Purdue, Minn,  Indy, Neb were worse than expected.

Others did not do much that was "notable"
+1 with the caveat that it is very hard to get a read out of most of these games.  Ie, did the fact that Ohio State got outscored 21-17 over the final (what was it?) ~50 minutes indicate problems for the Buckeyes or just indicate that they were comfortable and took their foot off the gas?  Similarly with PSU and UMD it is hard to know if scoring almost 80 points is an indication that UMD/PSU are that good or that Idaho/Howard are that bad.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2019, 02:30:27 PM »

  • Ohio State - 1 - Did pretty much what they were expected to do.  
  • Michigan - 2 - ditto
  • Penn State - 4 - That is a lot of points.  
  • Wisconsin - 3 - Solid win.  
  • Iowa - 6 - Not much to say.  
  • Nebraska - 8 - We'll see.  
  • Michigan State - 9 - Still great D, still no O.  
  • Maryland - 11 - Trying not to overreact to scoring 79 against a bad opponent.  
  • Northwestern - 7 - Losing on the West Coast to a solid team is not bad, their offense was.   
  • Purdue - 5 - Long road trips are hard, still that wasn't good.   
  • Illinois - 13 - Solid win, but Akron might be the worst in the MAC.   
  • Indiana - 12 - I expected better.   
  • Minnesota - 10 - Barely beating an FCS foe is cause for concern.  
  • Rutgers - 14 - Still Rutgers.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2019, 02:30:36 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on September 03, 2019, 01:42:49 PM
2) Michigan: turnovers and giving up 21 to MTSU probably aren't what the fans want to see.
The part of the D performance that will stick is that the tackle depth is as bad as it's been in years and with Dwumfour and Jeter out it was ... alarming. But MTSU couldn't take much advantage. And never drove on the first two strings. 
So the points themselves weren't concerning. 14 came after short field turnovers and  the last 7 happened in garbage time on the 3rd string. So while you can definitely apply "aren't what the fans want to see" to some stuff,  I don't think the 21 points are it. Those are mostly getting a shoulder shrug.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2019, 03:04:07 PM »
Results posted, votes through me (18 voters).  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2019, 03:10:13 PM »
Perhaps. In my experience, fans of top-tier, or wanna-be top-tier programs look for blowouts in these types of games and make excuses for why it doesn't bother them when they don't happen. Could well be a blip on the radar--and I still have Michigan as the top contender to OSU, but I bet this win didn't set all that well with most of the rabid fans.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2019, 03:16:58 PM »
The game is definitely sitting somewhere between meh and not well. But like I said, the reason isn't MTSU's points; I thought Michigan fans were reasonable about that even during the live threads, which isn't common for the fan base. On defense, it's the DT position deptth. With Dwumfour and Jeter out, Ben Mason played. For those who don't know, he was last season's starting full back. He is emphatically not a DT. That depth is terrifying for the season, even if MTSU wasn't built to capitalize (but ~10/12 of Michigan's opponents will be). And, on offense, we disliked the hokey 2QB snaps and how awkward and unpracticed they seemed. 

Obviously, the turnovers were a drag -- but again less because MTSU needed them to score than because they eliminated more opportunities for Michigan to score. There's this undercurrent in the fanbase that the new offense has changed a lot, and it's positive, but that we wanted more (mostly more consistency). That series that went (a) RPO 10+ yards to Tarik Black, (b) RPO 10+ yards to Tarik Black, (c) play action to Nico Collins for the TD was beautiful offense. And the fanbase clearly wanted the whole game to look like that.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2019, 03:27:57 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on September 03, 2019, 03:10:13 PM
Perhaps. In my experience, fans of top-tier, or wanna-be top-tier programs look for blowouts in these types of games and make excuses for why it doesn't bother them when they don't happen. Could well be a blip on the radar--and I still have Michigan as the top contender to OSU, but I bet this win didn't set all that well with most of the rabid fans.
as my post on the Gopher game thread before the Huskers kicked off stated...........

I'd rather have my team get the win, but not cover the spread, no blowout

keeps kids humble and working hard in practice instead of having them reading press clippings and assuming they have arrived

but yes, most fans want blowouts, want their team to look near perfect and projecting to win out of the remainder of the schedule
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2019, 04:45:22 PM »
I'm a critic, a fan, and knowledgeable about football, especially when it comes to Maryland, and I can tell you, I got NOTHING from this game.  I know some think I'm a huge homer when it comes to the talent, but some of you same dudes who mock me for it, are probably happy with them on your NFL team.

79 points against a team that barely threw the ball, couldn't handle a snap during punts, and Lines that seemed like they just didn't care, overshadows the fact that Ron Prince is the coach, and Cam Newton's little brother is the QB.

I can say that if we ran more than 5 plays that game, I'd be surprised, but they didn't do anything but collect a check.

The only reason we play FCS in-state schools, like other teams around the country (Clemson and uSC for example) is to divvy out money for them to stay afloat.

Then again, I watched Syracuse, and they didn't look like a Top 25 team either, and they DID run many plays.

I'll be interested to see how we stack up against the second best team in the ACC.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2019, 05:17:59 PM »
I'm happy with Stefon Diggs on the Vikings
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 1
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