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ELA

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Arizona State allegations
« on: June 16, 2021, 04:44:33 PM »
Looks like ole Herm might be in some trouble here.  I demand to see the passenger manifests of SDF's trains!

NCAA investigating Arizona State football over allegations of recruiting violations during dead period

TEMPE, Ariz. — The NCAA is investigating whether the Arizona State football program hosted high school prospects during the recent COVID-19 dead period, and possibly other recruiting violations, The Athletic has learned.

It’s unknown how many prospects Arizona State is alleged to have entertained during the COVID-19 period or when they might have visited. Per one source, the school’s athletic compliance office recently started interviewing staff members. A former athletic department employee said some people in the football offices are concerned about losing their jobs.

“ASU can confirm the NCAA is conducting an investigation regarding allegations related to our football program,” Arizona State vice president of media relations and strategic communications Katie Paquet said in a statement to The Athletic. “In accordance with NCAA bylaws, the university cannot provide further comment at this time.”

In March, 2020, the NCAA halted in-person recruiting for 15 months because of the pandemic. Although play resumed on the field, coaching staffs were forced to communicate with recruits through video calls and other electronic means. Prospects often committed to schools they had not seen.

The allegations are a bad look for a program that had its season shut down for nearly a month last year because of COVID-19 issues. Half the coaching staff, including head coach Herm Edwards, tested positive. The Sun Devils played only four games, finishing 2-2. On Zoom sessions with reporters, Edwards urged fans to take the virus seriously. With coaches and players exhausted at season’s end, the program removed itself from bowl consideration.

Edwards’ involvement in the school’s investigation is not clear. Although he coaches in practice, Edwards has adopted a “CEO” face-of-the-program role for most of the past three-plus years. He leans heavily on Antonio Pierce, the program’s associate head coach, recruiting coordinator and defensive coordinator. If it were up to him, Edwards has said more than once, Pierce would replace him when he retires.

A former NFL linebacker and head coach at Long Beach Poly High, Pierce arrived with strong Southern California high school connections. In 2020 one co-worker described his recruiting efforts as “tireless and enthusiastic.” Behind this drive, the Sun Devils have established themselves more on the national recruiting landscape, reaching outside the traditional Pac-12 footprint. In 2019, they had the nation’s No. 28 recruiting class, per the 247Sports Composite. The next year, they were 23rd.

Asked if Edwards would be aware of potential recruiting misdeeds, one former athletic department staffer responded without hesitation, “No way.” Another wasn’t so sure. “He is probably aware of 90 percent of the recruiting stuff that goes on,” he said.

In April, the NCAA announced that all Division I sports could return to their regular recruiting schedules June 1, business as usual. This month, Arizona State football has hosted both in-state and out-of-state prospects on official and unofficial visits. The Sun Devils have four high school prospects committed to their 2022 class but are in contention for top prospects across the country.

— The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman contributed reporting.




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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 04:52:19 PM »
Makes no sense.

Why give up a high-paid, low stress, and pretty stable gig doing broadcasting to go coach in college... And then cheat? 

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2021, 05:13:57 PM »
Makes no sense.

Why give up a high-paid, low stress, and pretty stable gig doing broadcasting to go coach in college... And then cheat?
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2021, 05:15:28 PM »
Makes no sense.

Why give up a high-paid, low stress, and pretty stable gig doing broadcasting to go coach in college... And then cheat?
Is it that high paid?  Seems like ESPN has cut ties to anyone making money

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2021, 05:15:49 PM »
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2021, 08:25:59 PM »
They could hire Tom Herman, and then no one in the athletic department would have to learn a new name. 
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2021, 09:29:54 PM »
Makes no sense.

Why give up a high-paid, low stress, and pretty stable gig doing broadcasting to go coach in college... And then cheat?
Had he not been caught, he'd be in line for at least $16 million as of the end of last season. 

If you like coaching, seems like an OK deal

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2021, 09:34:04 PM »
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"Sources said members of the football program deliberately, blatantly and consistently broke rules related to hosting players during the dead period, including coach Herm Edwards meeting with recruits."

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"Multiple sources indicated that at least 30 players visited campus over a span of months, a practice so common coaches referenced “official visit weekends” in staff meetings, coaches bumped into recruits and families in a back stairwell and a routine developed of facility tours being given around 9 p.m. or 10 p.m. at night.

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On one weekend in October, there were so many high school kids visiting that a staff member parked a 12-person van in the staff parking lot to tour around recruits. The visits spanned months, sources said, including some in October, the weekend of the UCLA game in December and through the spring game, which one source said “was like an official visit weekend.”"


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"In perhaps the most extreme example of how normalized the illicit recruiting had become, one Bay Area prospect — who enrolled at a rival Pac-12 school — worked out with a position coach at a local park. The video of that workout was shot on a cell phone camera and then evaluated in an offensive staff meeting of more than a dozen coaches. Not only was the workout and visit against the rules, but the staffers evaluated the illegal workout on the illegal visit as if it were a recruit's high school game tape."


https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-ncaa-investigating-arizona-state-football-for-recruiting-violations-194707554.html

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2021, 11:15:06 PM »
USC must have done something truly heinous for them to come down on ASU like this...

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2021, 11:56:59 PM »
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2021, 01:17:17 AM »
From the behavior sounding fairly normal during abnormal times, I think ASU's plan is going to be the "plead ignorance" defense.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2021, 10:58:04 AM »
From the behavior sounding fairly normal during abnormal times, I think ASU's plan is going to be the "plead ignorance" defense.

Well according to Yahoo:

"Multiple former staffers said that the dozens of recruits who came on campus during the dead period should be easy to track by going through the ASU football building and the surrounding area’s security cameras. It wasn’t uncommon for Edwards and multiple coaches to host recruits in his office. As the amount of illicit activity rose, tensions simmered in the office. Coaches said that hosting recruits would have been too common to get security officials to agree to shut the cameras off every time a recruit came into the building during a dead period."

With video evidence in play, Arizona State could always go the route of that Shaggy song: "She even caught me on camera - It wasn't me!


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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2021, 12:05:32 PM »
More from Yahoo this week:

"The dossier of documents sent to the Arizona State compliance department and the NCAA enforcement department on May 31 begins with a blunt message about allegations of NCAA improprieties in the ASU football program. It specifically names 10 Arizona State “individual staff members to investigate” and lists 13 “illegal recruiting prospects” who visited campus during the COVID-19 dead period."

"The dossier also includes a picture that’s alleged in the documents to be head coach Herm Edwards purportedly leading a top 100 recruit from the Class of 2022 around ASU’s weight room. Yahoo Sports could not independently verify the identity of the photo’s subjects, who have their backs to the camera."

"In totality, the breadth of the evidence and potential investigative leads provide significant building blocks for an NCAA case against Edwards and ASU...multiple former staff members have told Yahoo Sports that they are happy to cooperate with the NCAA, a rarity for an organization that often gets stonewalled by the code of silence many adopt in the sport."

"The most detailed part sent to the NCAA is documentation of flights for recruits that were alleged to have been arranged by three ASU assistant coaches: Chris Hawkins, Prentice Gill and Adam Breneman. That includes screenshots of emails that show Regina Jackson, the mother of star quarterback Jayden Daniels, allegedly helping book more than $1,100 in flights for recruits and the adults accompanying them on a recruiting trip from Florida, according to the documents. Daniels himself is not implicated with any wrongdoing in the document and Jackson denied any involvement helping ASU."

"Still, the dossier of allegations includes a photo that is said to be of head coach Herm Edwards touring a top 100 recruit around the ASU football weight room. The picture provided to the NCAA and viewed by Yahoo Sports is taken from a distant stairwell. Neither Edwards nor the recruit are directly facing the camera, but the image captures a subject of Edwards’ stature wearing a maroon bucket hat Edwards often wears. In the backdrop of the picture on an oversized weight room television is a women’s basketball game between Notre Dame and Louisville, which tipped off Feb. 7 at 2 p.m. at the Yum Center in Louisville."

"The point of the group text wasn’t to accumulate allegations and pictures with a time stamp. Rather, it was used as a real-time exclamation of the disbelief of what was happening in the program, a source said. That disbelief was accentuated as staffers saw coaches who weren’t participating in the alleged behavior pushed out of their jobs or had responsibilities stripped away as associate head coach Antonio Pierce gained power."

"There appear to be two layers to the alleged illegal visits that NCAA investigators will likely have to examine. The first is the actual visits and any potential complicity of Edwards and the coaching staff in encouraging recruits to come to Tempe and escorting them through the facility at a time when that was explicitly barred at every program. The second is how the players who came on the alleged visits paid for the travel, including plane tickets, meals and the hotels or other places that they stayed."

https://sports.yahoo.com/yahoo-sports-exclusive-dossier-reveals-extent-of-ncaa-allegations-against-arizona-state-football-055252113.html


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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2021, 10:47:11 AM »
Two more ASU football assistants suspended with pay, to go along 26 year-old TE coach Adam Breneman (former Penn State Tight End 2013 – 2015) who two weeks ago was placed on paid administrative leave.

Looks like ASU will slash from the bottom up and hope that enough cuts from the lower rungs will be enough to save the top.

But practically speaking how does ASU's staff fill in for THREE missing assistant coaches? That's kind of a big deal when it comes to strategizing and game prep, right? Or does ASU bring all three back during zero week to get their players pumped for big bad Southern Utah?


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