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CatsbyAZ

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2021, 10:50:18 AM »
To go along with 2 additional Arizona State coaches starting administrative leave this past Monday, the NCAA is moving into the interviews phase of its investigation into numerous suspected recruiting violations:


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1430940765652283398
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2021, 11:14:30 AM »
This is gonna be an ugly outcome. Truly. I don't know how Herm survives this, based on what's happening.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2021, 12:15:48 PM »
Cue old Herm soundbites 
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2022, 11:11:43 AM »
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"Three Arizona State coaches who were put on paid administrative leave in August following the start of an NCAA review into the program's recruiting practices are no longer employed by the athletic department, according to people familiar with the development. Wide receivers coach Prentice Gill and secondary coach Chris Hawkins were fired for cause on Jan. 21 for what ASU deemed to be violations of their work agreements, while tight ends coach Adam Breneman resigned from his position on Monday."

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"Athletic department officials have privately expressed concern to colleagues and others about the serious nature and far-reaching implications of the case ASU is facing, which is expected to include Level I violations in a Notice of Allegations by the NCAA later this year."

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"The most serious allegations against ASU include its coaches paying for the travel of recruits to Tempe and for their lodging while in town, as well as meeting with them in person both on and off campus during a 14-month period between March of 2020 and May of 2021 when such action was not allowed due to the pandemic."

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"NCAA investigators have been told in interviews that in addition to Breneman, Gill and Hawkins, other ASU coaches participated in impermissible local meetings with recruits, including head coach Herm Edwards, Hill and associate head coach Antonio Pierce, two people with knowledge of those conversations told Sun Devil Source. Multiple ASU assistant coaches are additionally alleged to have traveled outside the state for recruiting purposes during a period when it was not allowed, which the NCAA is also inquiring about."

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"ASU football has already been severely impacted by the NCAA investigation. The program had three committed four-star prospects earlier than any previous recruiting cycle in history by June of last year when school officials received an email believed to be from a former ASU staff member that included evidence of recruiting violations. At the time, the Sun Devils were ranked among the top-20 teams in the national 247Sports recruiting rankings, with Hawkins at No. 2 in the Pac-12. They have signed just one four-star recruit in the class and currently rank No. 85 nationally — lower than in any prior year this century — and No. 11 in the Pac-12, which is tied for their worst mark with the 2011 class."



https://twitter.com/SunDevilSource/status/1487110932702523397
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2022, 01:08:00 PM »
It still doesn't make sense. Why leave a cushy TV gig if you're just going to go be a cheater? 
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2022, 02:33:34 PM »
MSU had a pretty popular staffer who was in the recruiting department, not have her contract renewed. Made no sense, but a lot of people pointed that she came here from working under Herm at ASU, and were trying to disassociate from her
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2023, 02:40:46 PM »
Arizona State bravely and courageously self-imposes a bowl ban effective this season. All while ASU was more than likely NOT to be strong enough to qualify for a Bowl anyway. It's a flimsy PR move everybody sees through. It’s like announcing self-restrictions from consuming alcohol for 3 months on the day before you ship off to basic training at Parris Island Island. No bowl is already a "priced-in" expectation going into this season.

All of this is preemptive of what greater punishments the NCAA might impose, though I don't believe those sanctions will be very severe.



https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/1695808723632234973
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2023, 12:19:54 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 27, 2023, 02:40:46 PM
Arizona State bravely and courageously self-imposes a bowl ban effective this season. All while ASU was more than likely NOT to be strong enough to qualify for a Bowl anyway. It's a flimsy PR move everybody sees through. It’s like announcing self-restrictions from consuming alcohol for 3 months on the day before you ship off to basic training at Parris Island Island. No bowl is already a "priced-in" expectation going into this season.

All of this is preemptive of what greater punishments the NCAA might impose, though I don't believe those sanctions will be very severe.



https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/1695808723632234973
Forgive my language, but just a horseshit move.

Shouldn’t be able to impose bowl bans this late. Not right for the players.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2023, 07:37:18 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 28, 2023, 12:19:54 AM
Forgive my language, but just a horseshit move.

Shouldn’t be able to impose bowl bans this late. Not right for the players.
Exactly this. And I believe the transfer window is closed. If it isn't. it's too late to join a new team now. Games have started.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2023, 12:24:25 PM »
saw somewhere that some seniors are looking into legal action for waiting this late to take those actions. don't blame them.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2023, 12:29:36 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on August 28, 2023, 12:24:25 PM
saw somewhere that some seniors are looking into legal action for waiting this late to take those actions. don't blame them.
Please yes give me pending litigation where a judge considers whether to order ASU to accept the Duke's Mayo Bowl bid
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2023, 12:36:53 PM »
I'd like to see a judge with the power to punish the offending coaches that caused this hardship for college players
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2023, 01:56:03 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2023, 07:37:18 AM
Exactly this. And I believe the transfer window is closed. If it isn't. it's too late to join a new team now. Games have started.

That is correct. ASU waited until the transfer window closed until imposing a bowl ban. ASU isn't likely to qualify for a bowl this year - on paper the Sun Devils don't appear much better than last year's 3-9 squad - but that's besides the point.

Quote from: rolltidefan on August 28, 2023, 12:24:25 PM
saw somewhere that some seniors are looking into legal action for waiting this late to take those actions. don't blame them.

The goal of legal action, IMO, would be for seniors to be granted an extra year of NCAA eligibility given the bad faith move by ASU.

On another related note, I've never heard of a coach receiving a contract extension before they've coached their first game, but good on Kenny Dillingham's agent for addressing the sanctions in Dillingham's contract:


https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/1695908766871597499

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2023, 01:58:21 PM »
Kenny Dillingham should have reported the transgressions

if he was aware
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