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847badgerfan

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ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« on: December 22, 2023, 03:20:24 PM »
Florida State Announces Official Decision on ACC Exit (msn.com)


It's gonna be expensive, but they really want out. The B1G needs to act immediately on this target. The B1G NEEDS to be in Florida.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2023, 03:42:33 PM »
Ok....ignoring the OP about FSU leaving the ACC and what that entails....strictly looking at the apparent reason given in that article, which is missing the playoff....

I need clarification on their thinking.  How is it the ACC's fault FSU was left out of the playoff?  That's on the CFPC, and clearly they left FSU out because their QB was injured, not because they said FSU played a weak ACC schedule.  
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2023, 04:57:52 PM »
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2023, 05:14:50 PM »
If the SEC wants FSU, there's nothing the B1G can do about it 
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2023, 05:51:54 PM »
Several years ago it was widely believed the SEC would not accept FSU because UF was opposed. Perhaps that changed now that money is more important than disadvantaging one's rival.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2023, 07:39:23 PM »
My thoughts on FSU:

I like the idea of getting into Florida but I've always been opposed to being an obviously junior conference in ANY state. 

For now, we aren't:

  • Iowa>ISU
  • B1G>MAC
  • PSU>Pitt
  • tOSU>Cincy
  • USC/UCLA>rest of Cali
  • Washington>WSU
  • Oregon>OrSU
As I see it, the only ones that are even arguable is Indiana where ND>IU/PU and Pennsylvania where an argument could be made. 

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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2023, 07:52:31 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on December 22, 2023, 05:51:54 PM
Several years ago it was widely believed the SEC would not accept FSU because UF was opposed. Perhaps that changed now that money is more important than disadvantaging one's rival.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2023, 07:54:01 PM »
If we had to let in another FL team, it would be Miami.  EVERYONE would love to play games in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country, right?  
Not the SW GA backwoods panhandle.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2023, 07:55:08 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on December 22, 2023, 03:42:33 PM
Ok....ignoring the OP about FSU leaving the ACC and what that entails....strictly looking at the apparent reason given in that article, which is missing the playoff....

I need clarification on their thinking.  How is it the ACC's fault FSU was left out of the playoff?  That's on the CFPC, and clearly they left FSU out because their QB was injured, not because they said FSU played a weak ACC schedule. 
They're just pissed and need a bad guy.  They're treating the ACC like we did Iraq after 9/11.  It's nonsense.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2023, 10:11:35 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 22, 2023, 07:39:23 PM
My thoughts on FSU:

I like the idea of getting into Florida but I've always been opposed to being an obviously junior conference in ANY state.

As I see it, the only ones that are even arguable is Indiana where ND>IU/PU and Pennsylvania where an argument could be made.


Pennsylvania isnt even close to arguable.  I would bet Pitt has a smaller market share in PA, than MSU in Michigan or ISU in Iowa
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2023, 10:12:50 PM »
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2023, 10:45:08 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 22, 2023, 10:11:35 PM
Pennsylvania isnt even close to arguable.  I would bet Pitt has a smaller market share in PA, than MSU in Michigan or ISU in Iowa
You live there so I'll take your word for it. 

In that case Indiana is the only state in our league footprint where we aren't clearly the dominant College sports draw.

Does anyone else share my concern about being second fiddle?
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2023, 10:45:53 PM »
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2023, 02:15:53 AM »
They just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
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