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847badgerfan

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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2023, 06:22:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 23, 2023, 05:25:38 PM
No need to add volume just for the sake of it.  That's how you end up with Rutgers.
So F'ing right on this.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2023, 10:10:09 AM »
The SEC would be wise to stay at a very robust, healthy 16 than go get some 2nd-rate programs up the Atlantic coast.  
UNC and UVA's sports programs are good, but no need to pick through the clearance aisle.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2023, 10:12:36 AM »
wiser move would be to shed some dead weight and get down to 12 or 10 programs
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2023, 04:29:14 PM »
No, you need some fodder, as I've said before.  You don't want your elite programs going 6-6 all the time.  
Auburn has to have its peaks, along with LSU and Florida and maybe Tennessee sometime.  
With no dead weight, the losses pile up for the 'haves.'
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2023, 06:21:42 PM »
They should make the SEC take in all the teams that they have Thanksgiving weekend rivalry games with; Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and whoever tf else. 
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2023, 06:22:51 PM »
just break CF from college sports and let's go back to regional conferences
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2023, 08:01:03 PM »
Amen

OU/NU battle of the Big Reds on Thanksgiving day
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2023, 10:32:01 AM »
Interesting perspective.

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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2023, 04:50:47 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 22, 2023, 10:45:08 PM
You live there so I'll take your word for it.

In that case Indiana is the only state in our league footprint where we aren't clearly the dominant College sports draw.

Does anyone else share my concern about being second fiddle?
For small population states,  I could see your point.  But for Big population states like Florida, Texas or Cal,  I think you can make an exception. 

If Texas A&M wanted to move to the Big Ten, that's ok because #2 in Texas is a big fish worth catching.  I think you could make the same case for Florida St.  I guess the Big Ten has already decided it's ok to have 2 teams from California.

After that,  it's not so clear.  GT, VT, NCSU  may not be worth it if you can't get #1 in the state, although they probably all meet minimum Big Ten requirements. 
Louisville, Oklahoma St all have questionable academics in lower population states so no chance for #2 in those states.
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2024, 02:45:48 PM »
UMass to the MAC for all sports.

Clearly they were worried about getting locked out of a top 4 spot as an independent
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2024, 03:11:33 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 26, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
UMass to the MAC for all sports.

Clearly they were worried about getting locked out of a top 4 spot as an independent

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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2024, 08:57:28 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 26, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
UMass to the MAC for all sports.

Clearly they were worried about getting locked out of a top 4 spot as an independent
Only football independents left are Notre Dame and UConn.  Well,  plus Wash St and Ore St are sorta football independents too. 
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2024, 12:49:51 AM »
If UConn goes 10-2 and ND goes 9-3, then the Huskies are better, right?  
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Re: ACC Grant of Rights, expansion talk
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2024, 06:43:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 27, 2024, 12:49:51 AM
If UConn goes 10-2 and ND goes 9-3, then the Huskies are better, right? 
I doubt either one would get a playoff spot in the new 12-team CFP.  ND would get a bowl under the ACC bowl agreement deal.  UConn would probably end up in some crappy bowl.

ND will be fine as independent.  ND typically plays 9 P4 teams.  UConn schedules typically have 5 P4 teams.   UConn is going to have scheduling issues. 

UConn could possibly eventually join the ACC or Big 12 in the future depending on how how expansion goes.  But in the short term UConn is kinda screwed.  UConn may have to consider joining the MAC for football only in the short term.  
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