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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1050 on: February 01, 2024, 04:50:42 PM »
Out of curiosity, how many players from those OSU teams were drafted?  Part of the reason that Purdue is doing well is because they are playing exceptional team ball.

But at the end of their college careers, Edey might go first round, but I doubt anyone else even gets a whiff of the second round.
I really don't follow the NBA closely enough to even take much of a guess beyond knowing a few names Jimmy Jackson from the 91/2 team, Oden and Connelly from 2007.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1051 on: February 01, 2024, 05:47:31 PM »
I really don't follow the NBA closely enough to even take much of a guess beyond knowing a few names Jimmy Jackson from the 91/2 team, Oden and Connelly from 2007.
Did some digging:


91 team had Jackson and Funderburke
07 team had Cook, Conley, and Oden (two of those being picks #1 and #4)
11 team had Diebler, Sullinger, and Thomas.

So the only comparable team to the current Purdue squad (who might get one late first rounder and maybe another second rounder (Smith?)) would be the '91 team, and as you noted, that team lost 6 games, two of them to unranked Iowa and Seton Hall.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1052 on: February 01, 2024, 06:36:14 PM »
NBA talent has never been less relevant to NCAA success.  Last years NC had 2 NBA picks, one of which was late 2nd round.  Michigan went to the NIT with two lottery picks, and a former Big Ten POTY and went to the NIT

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« Reply #1053 on: February 01, 2024, 06:47:27 PM »
Having guys that are good, but not good enough to get to the NBA, is really the key part of college basketball

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1054 on: February 01, 2024, 10:05:01 PM »
Apparently Tyson Walker has a groin injury that will need surgery on the off-season

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1055 on: February 01, 2024, 10:45:06 PM »
Apparently Tyson Walker has a groin injury that will need surgery on the off-season
Ouch

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« Reply #1056 on: February 01, 2024, 10:45:51 PM »
I admit Nebraska, I turned on the game and saw that the score was 27-15, gave up hope, and turned it off to get some work done.  But I had ESPN's gamecast on in the background.  Turned it back on with about 1:30 left.

Hopefully that was incredibly demoralizing.  Feel free to take that hangover into the next game Badgers.  O:-)

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1057 on: February 01, 2024, 10:50:01 PM »
Unbelievable comeback. Wiscy lost their heads a bit in the second half with turnovers and Nebraska started hitting some tough 3s. Apparently it’s what they do at home. 

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« Reply #1058 on: February 01, 2024, 10:59:59 PM »
That one hurt. Badgers let them get on a roll, lost poise. 

Too many turnovers. Too many empty possessions. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1059 on: February 01, 2024, 11:12:58 PM »
I know we've discussed the home/road splits ad nauseam, but man Nebraska has to be the most extreme example of it

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1060 on: February 02, 2024, 04:35:35 AM »
Huck the Fuskers.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1061 on: February 02, 2024, 07:47:27 AM »
Could this be the year where they win a tournament game?   They don't seem to know how to play basketball outside the Haymarket district. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1062 on: February 02, 2024, 08:58:29 AM »
Review of tiers:

  • Wisconsin (-1/+1), Purdue, Illinois -1, Michigan State -1
  • Northwestern, Nebraska
  • Maryland +2, Minnesota (-1/+2), Ohio State, Iowa (-2/+2), Rutgers -1
  • Penn State (-1/+2), Indiana +1, Michigan (-3/+1)
Upsets so far have been:

There are two teams outside of +/-1 those are:
Michigan is -2 with one good upset (win in Iowa City) and three bad upsets (home losses to IU, MN, IA).  Maybe we should move them down into a tier of their own?  The difference would be the projected result in home games against Tier-3 teams.  There are five of those but Michigan does not host Maryland so that gets us down to four:
  • vs tOSU, W
  • vs IA, L
  • vs MN, L
  • vs RU, 2/3
Since their home game against Rutgers is tomorrow lets just wait and see how that goes.  If they lose they obviously need to move down.  If they win then it is a six-and-one-half-dozen the other situation so who cares.  

Maryland is +2 with upset road wins in Iowa City and Champaign.  The difference between Tier-3 and Tier-2 is the projected result in home games against Tier-1 and road games against Tier-4 but Maryland does not host Wisconsin nor visit Michigan (irrelevant if we move Michigan down).  That leaves five games:
  • at IU, L on 12/1
  • vs PU, L on 1/2
  • vs MSU, L on 1/21
  • vs IL on 2/17
  • at PSU on 3/10
They are 0-3 with two to play so even if they win the other two they'd still be 2-3 and Tier-3.  


All other teams are within +/-1 so I think the Tiers are good.  

Based on the above, the updated projected final standings/BTT seeds are:
  • 17-3/25-6 Wisconsin
  • 16-4/27-4 Purdue
  • 15-5/24-7 Illinois
  • 14-6/22-9 Michigan State
  • 12-8/22-9 Nebraska (wins tie with NU based on record against UW)
  • 12-8/21-10 Northwestern
  • 9-11/18-13 Minnesota (wins tie with UMD based on H2H, no game in College Park)
  • 9-11/17-14 Maryland
  • 7-13/15-16 Iowa (wins tie with PSU and tOSU based on H2H2H of 2-1, no game in Columbus)
  • 7-13/13-18 Penn State (second in tie with IA and tOSU based on H2H2H of 2-2)
  • 7-13/17-14 Ohio State (last in tie with IA and PSU based on H2H2H of 1-2, do not host Iowa)
  • 6-14/14-17 Rutgers (wins tie with IU based on H2H, no game in Bloomington)
  • 6-14/14-17 Indiana
  • 3-17/8-23 Michigan

Based on that the match-ups for the BTT at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota would be:
Wednesday, March 13 (Peacock):
  • #11 Ohio State vs #14 Michigan, 9pm
  • #12 Rutgers vs #13 Indiana, 630
Thursday, March 14 (BTN):
  • #5 Nebraska vs RU/IU, 230
  • #6 Northwestern vs tOSU/M, 9pm
  • #7 Minnesota vs #10 Penn State, 630
  • #8 Maryland vs #9 Iowa, noon
Friday, March 15 (BTN):
  • #1 Wisconsin vs UMD/IA, noon
  • #2 Purdue vs MN/PSU, 630
  • #3 Illinois vs NU/tOSU/M, 9pm
  • #4 Michigan State vs UNL/RU/IU, 230
Saturday, March 16 (CBS):
  • UW/UMD/IA vs MSU/UNL/RU/IU, 1pm
  • PU/MN/PSU vs IL/NU/tOSU/M, 330
Sunday, St. Patrick's Day, March 17 (CBS):
  • UW/UMD/IA/MSU/UNL/RU/IU vs PU/MN/PSU/IL/NU/tOSU/M, 330
The answer to @Brutus Buckeye 's standing question is Wednesday at 9pm but nobody will see it because it is on Peacock.  


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1063 on: February 02, 2024, 09:25:27 AM »
NBA talent has never been less relevant to NCAA success.  Last years NC had 2 NBA picks, one of which was late 2nd round.  Michigan went to the NIT with two lottery picks, and a former Big Ten POTY and went to the NIT
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