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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #924 on: January 23, 2024, 12:06:28 PM »
The next few weeks are interesting because they will very much define whether Wisconsin is going to be in a good position to win the league coming down the stretch or if they just benefitted from an easier front end of the schedule.
The other side of this equation (IMHO) is your Boilermakers. I'm curious what is your and @boilerbanger 's view of your team?

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #925 on: January 23, 2024, 01:54:43 PM »
I am bullish on the Boilers ... I think they end up winning the league when it is all said and done.  Have to take care of business before Wisconsin (Mich, @Rutgers, NW), but that should be a huge game with BIG Title implications ... it is as simple as long as we don't get turnover prone in a game, we will be fine.  We are shooting I believe a league best 39% from 3, at this point you are what you are and so I don't expect those numbers to change.  I think our offensive productivity has been much more consistent this year vs last year, but this was the time of year last year where we wore down and weren't playing as well.  I do not expect that to repeat, no freshman wall to hit and we are deeper.  Smith is going to bounce out of his shooting funk the last couple of games, he is just too damn good not to.  

Edey needs to go for 25 tonight to hit 2,000 for his career, would be fantastic if he can do that in Mackey.

There are only 2 games on the schedule we may not be favored in .... @Wisc and @Illinois ... Illinois is scary with Shannon back, very interested in their game @NW this week.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #926 on: January 23, 2024, 02:07:17 PM »
Hard to say so far.  Part of the problem for this year is perception.  We have several schools that traditionally are top half of the Big Ten that are underperforming this year.  Michigan, OSU, Iowa, Indiana, and maybe even MSU have all had disappointing years so far.  So, while Minnesota, Nebraska, and Northwestern appear to be better than expected teams this year, there's still this weird questioning about "well, are they really top half of the Big Ten, or are just the traditional powerhouse teams down to the point where it's just one big morass of 'meh'?"

Conversely to Wisconsin, Purdue is actually getting into the easier portion of their schedule.  The next eight games are:

Mich
@Rut
NW (Major revenge game)
@Wisc
IU
Minn
@OSU
Rut

3 road games, and only the 1 road game is against a tier 1 team (a much easier road than Wisconsin's next 8 which is 5 road games and 2 tier-1 home games).  Outside of the Wisconsin game and maybe the OSU game, I'm not particularly worried about those games, but that is also a recipe for getting upset, so hopefully the team takes the "1 game at a time" mantra seriously.

I suspect it's all going to come down to those last three games where Wisconsin, Illinois, and Purdue all play each other.

...and then there's March....

At this point, I would absolutely take an Elite 8 / Final 4 run instead of a BT title.  We gotta get that "double digit seed loss" monkey off our backs.  We've just been burned too many times for us to really get too cocky about how "elite" we are.  Which is ridiculous.  We've literally played the hardest schedule in college basketball this year (#1 on Kenpom) and have mostly survived, and it's all going to mean exactly dick if we don't get to at least the elite eight this year.  Anything else will be extremely disappointing.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #927 on: January 23, 2024, 02:22:18 PM »
@grillrat  totally agree with you.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #928 on: January 23, 2024, 08:58:22 PM »
Ohio State is 3-4 and has looked flat awful for the last six weeks. The question for the Buckeyes is if they can put that behind them and start performing up to their talent rather than down to their coaching. We project them to finish 7-13/17-14 so they need three or four unexpected wins to get to the right side of the bubble. Tonight would be a great time to start accumulating those.
LoL. Make it 3-5. The Chris Holtmann farewell tour heads to Evanston Saturday evening. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #929 on: January 23, 2024, 09:19:33 PM »
I mean you can't expect to win any road game

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #930 on: January 23, 2024, 10:30:00 PM »
LoL. Make it 3-5. The Chris Holtmann farewell tour heads to Evanston Saturday evening.
The bleeding out carries on. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #931 on: January 23, 2024, 10:31:26 PM »
Wisconsin played a nice first half and a garbage second half. Managed to win by the skin of their teeth. We will take the road win though.

Also, former UW assistant Lamont Paris led SC to a dominant upset of Kentucky. That was cool. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #932 on: January 24, 2024, 01:03:48 AM »
The bleeding out carries on.
That is all it is at this point. 

The new AD made some remarks and made it clear that Day is on solid ground but was tepid about Holtmann. 

At this point Holtmann is a dead man walking. I would assume that even @MaximumSam will concede that now or perhaps after another loss or two.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #933 on: January 24, 2024, 07:24:11 AM »
Wisconsin played a nice first half and a garbage second half. Managed to win by the skin of their teeth. We will take the road win though.

Also, former UW assistant Lamont Paris led SC to a dominant upset of Kentucky. That was cool.
Any road win is a good win.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #934 on: January 24, 2024, 07:57:18 AM »
Any road win is a good win.
What is this "road win" of which you speak?

I don't remember what those look like.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #935 on: January 24, 2024, 08:23:59 AM »
That is all it is at this point.

The new AD made some remarks and made it clear that Day is on solid ground but was tepid about Holtmann.

At this point Holtmann is a dead man walking. I would assume that even @MaximumSam will concede that now or perhaps after another loss or two.
I dunno what the new AD thinks. This is a young team that can return everyone except for Battle and Bonner I think, and in college basketball experience counts for a lot. That would certainly be what Holtmann will say. Might be in Holtmann's best interest to find a new job, Tubby Smith style, and see which players will come with him. 


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #936 on: January 24, 2024, 10:28:45 AM »
I dunno what the new AD thinks. This is a young team that can return everyone except for Battle and Bonner I think, and in college basketball experience counts for a lot. That would certainly be what Holtmann will say. Might be in Holtmann's best interest to find a new job, Tubby Smith style, and see which players will come with him.


Where?

Definitely not a guy in high demand at this point.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #937 on: January 24, 2024, 11:25:00 AM »
Where?

Definitely not a guy in high demand at this point.
Depaul is in the Big East but is 3-15 and 0-7 in the conference. There are many programs in way, way worse shape than Ohio State.

 

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