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MaximumSam

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #910 on: January 22, 2024, 11:47:44 AM »
I read somewhere it wasn't a fan but an OSU employee recording the court storming. Not sure if that is real or speculation

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #911 on: January 22, 2024, 11:59:11 AM »
I read somewhere it wasn't a fan but an OSU employee recording the court storming. Not sure if that is real or speculation
I don't buy it. Now if you told me it was a Michigan employee recording, that would check out

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« Reply #912 on: January 22, 2024, 01:24:44 PM »
Not arguing with you on this, but I would say the player should not be put in this position.
Yeah, and I can’t disagree with that.  If you eliminate court storming it isn’t an issue.

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« Reply #913 on: January 22, 2024, 01:43:59 PM »
Yeah, and I can’t disagree with that.  If you eliminate court storming it isn’t an issue.
She looked like a sore loser, which is not a good luck for someone in her position.
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« Reply #914 on: January 22, 2024, 02:15:34 PM »
Not arguing with you on this, but I would say the player should not be put in this position.
perhaps not but, players have been put in this position since the 1800's
therefore, it kinda comes with the territory
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« Reply #915 on: January 22, 2024, 02:31:30 PM »
She looked like a sore loser, which is not a good luck for someone in her position.
It is not but I saw a clip of her postgame interview and I thought she handled it pretty well there.  

Even if we accept that she DID look to shove someone then flop to make it look better, those are heat of the moment decisions that she was put in the position to make completely unexpectedly so mistakes there seem pretty minor and it seems kinda nit-picky to criticize those so long as it wasn't horrible behavior (it wasn't) and so long as she cleaned up reasonably well afterward I don't think there is much reason to criticize the Iowa star at this point. 

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« Reply #916 on: January 22, 2024, 02:59:59 PM »
She's definitely had a few rough moments, but I would have been much worse at that age.  Elite men's players are on a platform from the time they are 16, and they share the spotlight.  She has been the face of NCAA women's basketball since she was 19, after nobody knew who she was.  And hell, most of those looks are that she's a sore winner and a sore loser.  It's not like she actually getting in any real trouble

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« Reply #917 on: January 22, 2024, 03:05:47 PM »
Caitlyn has handled everything very well.  She handled this issue very well.

Glad no one was hurt badly.

Someone has been hurt badly in the past and someone will eventually get hurt in the future.

No blame for those storming the court, No blame for OSU security, No blame for Caitlyn.

No blood, no foul.
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« Reply #918 on: January 22, 2024, 08:34:46 PM »
Yeah, I'm not mad at her, the whole things just funny. 

Had it happened during the game, they would have initially called the foul on the fan, but then overturned it upon further review. 

Reminds me of Anderson Varejao, when he'd pull his defender down to the floor when the ref wasn't paying attention, and then they'd call the foul on his defender. 

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #919 on: January 23, 2024, 06:55:27 AM »
It is not but I saw a clip of her postgame interview and I thought she handled it pretty well there. 

Even if we accept that she DID look to shove someone then flop to make it look better, those are heat of the moment decisions that she was put in the position to make completely unexpectedly so mistakes there seem pretty minor and it seems kinda nit-picky to criticize those so long as it wasn't horrible behavior (it wasn't) and so long as she cleaned up reasonably well afterward I don't think there is much reason to criticize the Iowa star at this point.
I saw her postgame interview and when I juxtapose that with the video I want to roll my eyes out of my skull.

Yes, the fan saw has no right to be there. But I think Clark saw an opportunity and took it.  I think Clark faked the whole damn thing and there are few things in life I have less patience for than people who are fake and dramatic.


I think Clark was pouting after a tough loss, saw a fan running onto the court, and decided in a split second to push her down and then act like the fan crashed into her.


The dramatic pirouette and fall to the ground is as funny as it is pathetic.  Then having teammates help her off the court while she’s hunched over is the icing on the cake.  What’s funny is I know nothing about Clark other than she is a great player.

But when I mentioned the incident to my wife (who hadn’t heard about it yet) her first response was, “Oh my God, she’s all about the drama.”  What has happened in the past to give her that reputation?

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #920 on: January 23, 2024, 10:35:40 AM »
Tonight we have:

  • Wisconsin -3.5 at Minnesota at 7pm on BTN
  • Ohio State +3.5 at Nebraska at 7pm on Peacock
  • Michigan ×17.5 at Purdue at 9pm on Peacock 
Importance:

Wisconsin sits alone atop the B1G standings but their last trip away from the friendly confines of the Kohl Center resulted in a loss to lowly Penn State. This is a road game against a not terrible rival that has a better team than the Nittany Lions. I *THINK* that the Badgers will win but the result shouldn't just be assumed.

The Gophers are 3-4 and we project them to finish 8-12/17-14 so games like this one are the type of thing that could get them to the right side of the bubble come March.

Nebraska is 4-4 and looks like a Tournament team but they don't have a lot of margin for error so this is an important game for the Cornhuskers. If they lose a couple games they should win they could find themselves needing a couple wins in Minneapolis in a couple months. 

Ohio State is 3-4 and has looked flat awful for the last six weeks. The question for the Buckeyes is if they can put that behind them and start performing up to their talent rather than down to their coaching. We project them to finish 7-13/17-14 so they need three or four unexpected wins to get to the right side of the bubble. Tonight would be a great time to start accumulating those.

Purdue is in a bit of a weird situation. They are #2 nationally but (at least for now) they are also #2 in their own league. They had a fantastic OOC campaign highlighted by a brilliant run in Maui where they took down three top-11 teams (Gonzaga, Tennessee, Marquette) in three days along with neutral site wins over Alabama and (then) #1 Arizona. 

In conference they have looked considerably more mortal. I'm not saying that 6-2 is bad, it isn't. I'm just pointing out that after their very high preseason ranking and their brilliant OOC, it would have been reasonable to expect them to be 8-0 right now rather than having not one but two losses to unranked teams. 

The real test for the Boilermakers comes in Madison in a week and a half but if they don't win the three relatively easy games between now and then, a win in Madison won't be enough to catapult them into #1 in the league.

Michigan is a complete mess. Since beating the Emus of Ypsilanti in mid-December they are 1-6 with the only win being a fairly close home win over an Ohio State squad that hasn't won a road game since January 1 . . . of last year. Since then the Fighting Juwans have lost home games (McNeese, Minnesota, Illinois), neutral site games (Florida, Penn State), and a road game (Maryland).

Traveling to West Lafayette is definitively NOT the Rx for a team that desperately needs a get-right game but it doesn't get much easier after this. Their next game is against a group of Hawkeyes who will smell blood and come looking for revenge followed by a short trip to the State Capital to face their bitter rivals. 

The Wolverines' skid could easily extend to 1-9.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #921 on: January 23, 2024, 10:38:58 AM »
Tonight we have:

  • Michigan ×17.5 at Purdue at 9pm on Peacock
The part in bold is a typo, that was supposed to be "+17.5" but it looks kinda funny that way.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #922 on: January 23, 2024, 11:29:30 AM »
The next few weeks are interesting because they will very much define whether Wisconsin is going to be in a good position to win the league coming down the stretch or if they just benefitted from an easier front end of the schedule.

Wisconsin's next 6 games are:
@Minnie
MSU
@Neb
Pur
@Mich
@Rutg

So four road games and two tier-1 home games.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #923 on: January 23, 2024, 11:41:03 AM »
One game at a time.

Minnie... this is like their Superbowl. Always a tough out for Big Red.
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