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Topic: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #560 on: January 24, 2023, 02:35:34 PM »

BIG TEN TEAMS

  • #1 Purdue
  • #7 Indiana - moved up from Play-In Game
  • #7 Michigan State - moved up from #9
  • #8 Rutgers - dropped from #6
  • #10 Illinois - dropped from #8
  • #10 Maryland - moved up from #11
  • #11 Northwestern - moved up from Play-In Game
  • #11 Iowa - dropped from #10
  • P-I Penn State - moved up from NIT
  • P-I Wisconsin - dropped from #10
  • NIT #2 Ohio State - dropped from NIT #1
  • NIT #6 Michigan - dropped from NIT #4
  • Nebraska - moved up from #4 team out of NIT to #3 team out
  • Minnesota - n/a
Takeaways:
First, I think our league is incredibly deep. I'd take Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan over anybody's #10, #11,and #12 teams.

Second, we could be in for major disappointment in March partially in spite of and partially because of our depth.

Based on ELA's projection we only have one team that would be favored to make it out of the first weekend. Then we have five in the 7-10 range where getting to the sweet-sixteen requires that one of the best teams in the country suffer a MAJOR upset. Then we have two teams that would be underdogs in their first games and two teams that would need to win a play-in game just to have the opportunity to be underdogs to a top-20ish opponent.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #561 on: January 24, 2023, 05:07:22 PM »
The Badgers (12-6, 4-4 Big Ten), who have a thin margin for error on their best nights, were that team. They finished 9 of 16 from the line and committed too many self-inflicted errors elsewhere in a disappointing 66-63 loss that began a stretch of three games in six days.
This team irks me.

They are right there, and if the point guard played to the positional standard and the star power forward wasn’t playing like trash inside, they’d be fine. But neither is.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #562 on: January 24, 2023, 08:24:43 PM »
Is Holtman worse than Jim O'Brien? He obviously recruits a lot better, but Obie had the Final Four run, two Big Ten Titles, and a few other seasons where he fell just short of a Big Ten Title. Even in his bad years, he'd muster a monster upset of MSU, or some such. 
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #563 on: January 24, 2023, 11:58:58 PM »
Georgetown broke its record breaking 29 game Big East losing streak

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #564 on: January 25, 2023, 02:02:15 AM »
Is Holtman worse than Jim O'Brien? He obviously recruits a lot better, but Obie had the Final Four run, two Big Ten Titles, and a few other seasons where he fell just short of a Big Ten Title. Even in his bad years, he'd muster a monster upset of MSU, or some such.
It isn't even close but it is looking more and more like this season will force the AD's hand. At this point our team is tied for 12th/13th, 0-3 against the other bottom-4 teams, and sliding progressively further off the bubble. 

Maryland, Nebraska, and Minnesota are a combined 4-18 against B1G teams not named Ohio State and 3-0 against the Buckeyes. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #565 on: January 25, 2023, 07:47:33 AM »
Jim O'Brien had two losing seasons, so and Holtmann is flirting with having his first one, so probably not much comparison there. I dunno, the way things are now I feel like moving on from Holtmann will send us straight into Minnesota/Nebraska levels of competence. If there was a clear guy out there it would be one thing. If you knew Nate Oats would leave Alabama for OSU you could pull the trigger. But if you are looking at the usual cast of randos then...

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #566 on: January 25, 2023, 08:34:49 AM »
I have this funny feeling that this may just be it for Coach Gard. 

The AD showed he's not playing around when he whacked a supposedly untouchable* Paul Chryst. 

I wonder who might be on his short list of hoops coaches? If he can get the home run, I think he'll do it. 


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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #567 on: January 25, 2023, 08:40:22 AM »
I have this funny feeling that this may just be it for Coach Gard.

The AD showed he's not playing around when he whacked a supposedly untouchable* Paul Chryst.

I wonder who might be on his short list of hoops coaches? If he can get the home run, I think he'll do it.


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Speaking of Nate Oats, he's from Wisconsin and got his masters from there. So...

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #568 on: January 25, 2023, 08:47:43 AM »
Speaking of Nate Oats, he's from Wisconsin and got his masters from there. So...
If he wants to take some fruit from the Cincinnati tree again...



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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #569 on: January 25, 2023, 09:05:34 AM »
Speaking of Nate Oats, he's from Wisconsin and got his masters from there. So...
That's who immediately comes to mind. That's a home run.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #570 on: January 25, 2023, 09:19:10 AM »

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #571 on: January 25, 2023, 09:21:00 AM »
You're lucky Mac didn't offer Saban the football job. 
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #572 on: January 25, 2023, 09:25:51 AM »
pretty sure i read somewhere he grew up an msu fan. and that's who most bama 'in the know' peoples are worried about.

just wish we'd get off our ass and build a new arena already. not really worried about him leaving for money. we'll match just about anything. but prestige, better facilities, better nil setup, thing like that will be what draws him away. not much we can do about prestige, but the rest is up to us. hopefully, with what he's building here, he gets a few more years in, and it'll be similar to dabo at clemson. sure, there's better historical programs out there, even his alma mater/childhood favorite, but why leave the juggernaut he's built? why not become the legend for them.

my hope anyway. good problem to have, teams wanted your coach. bad problem to have if you're not one of the 'haves', and while bama isn't terrible in bball (and much better historically than most people think), we are certainly not a 'have'.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #573 on: January 25, 2023, 09:26:35 AM »
You're lucky Mac didn't offer Saban the football job.
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