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Topic: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

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847badgerfan

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2022, 09:08:33 AM »
UW gets Wofford transfer Max Klesmit. Looks to be a good pickup. The kid is a Wisconsin native too, with good numbers.

They also got Kamari McGee, who transferred from UWGB after one season there. He is also a Wisconsin native, with good numbers.

This is mostly how UW has to approach transfers. In-state kids who wanted to be in Madison in the first place.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2022, 10:18:18 AM »
UW gets Wofford transfer Max Klesmit. Looks to be a good pickup. The kid is a Wisconsin native too, with good numbers.

They also got Kamari McGee, who transferred from UWGB after one season there. He is also a Wisconsin native, with good numbers.

This is mostly how UW has to approach transfers. In-state kids who wanted to be in Madison in the first place.


And Micah Potter.

The Klesmit add is highly functional. As much as Badger fans have yammered about replacing Davis, this team was going to shift to the traditional point guard-center focused offense. A dynamic wing would've been a bonus, but some 3-and-D guys would do just fine. Assuming Klesmit can provide that D, a good add.

Overall, they added 
another ballhandler and another wing, which they needed. They still need some kind of big, though what shape his is remains to be seen (I'd take yet another wing, but I'm greedy there). They're got 5-7 guys who really should be rotation guy right now, plus the potential for a freshman to either step up at guard or one sophomore you hop can step up as a rangy skinny four. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2022, 03:11:39 PM »
Yeah, looks like MSUs one transfer is going to be an in state kid from Oakland who had no high major offers out of HS, but averaged 12 and 6 last year.  Also a PWO to a kid from WMU

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #59 on: May 03, 2022, 07:35:53 PM »
Sounds like Emoni Bates transferring to Louisville, because last time they came in out of nowhere to grab an overrated prospect from Michigan, it only landed them in an FBI sting, NCAA probation and Pitino getting fired.

Bates, less then a year ago, said he wasn't going to MSU anymore  because he wasn't getting paid there.

What could go wrong?

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2022, 07:13:26 AM »
The fish is rotting.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2022, 07:34:23 AM »
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-bold-new-college-basketball-flex-scheduling-model-that-would-bring-big-nonconference-games-into-february/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

I think this is a great idea for the smaller leagues and I also think that we could do something similar with a late season B1G/Pac Challenge. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2022, 07:48:18 AM »
I don't really care for OOC games after Christmas, to be honest. I'm probably in the minority on this one.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2022, 08:06:48 AM »

Sounds like Emoni Bates transferring to Louisville, because last time they came in out of nowhere to grab an overrated prospect from Michigan, it only landed them in an FBI sting, NCAA probation and Pitino getting fired.

Bates, less then a year ago, said he wasn't going to MSU anymore  because he wasn't getting paid there.

What could go wrong?
So his terms probably haven't changed much from the start of his recruitment? Gotta admire the consistency. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2022, 08:10:26 AM »
I don't really care for OOC games after Christmas, to be honest. I'm probably in the minority on this one.
I think this is a case of creating a little more buzz-y games late in the season for smaller leagues. Which is fine.

The longer I watch sports, the more interested I am in the divide between overall sport watchers vs. specific team watchers. Basically, how big is the "more good games" upside. For CBB, admittedly somewhat marginal, but probably worth doing. For FB, gets more interesting, as the margins are so small. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2022, 08:21:28 AM »
The fish is rotting.
This had me thinkings, where is the preverbal head? I think it comes down to two places, but not sure if one is more prevalent. 

-There is the simple hand-out ethos of college sports. I think it was 2008 or so when the Madison papers made a big to-do about a developmentally disabled man who scrounged up the money for a season ticket donation, only to learn the donation didn't yield tickets. So we're a decade and a half removed from "pay us to the chance to buy tickets, and increase your chances by paying more." Everyone in the sport had a hand out, ready to cash in on value, so eventually, that would trickle down. 

OR

-Was it a competitive thing? We always had penny ante black market stuff, plus the shoe world, but at a point, it was settled on that money bought you a place at the table. New weight rooms every five years. Buildings with bells and whistles up a bull's ass. Staffers on staffers on staffers. No one wanted to live within means because pushing those limits got you to the top. And all of a sudden, you had "amateur" outfits that were $100 million corporations. No one could stop paying to compete. Barry Alvarez got seven figures. When you ask why, the management was good, but the ability to fill coffers was key. Only a few years back, MSU rolled out the money cannon. Why? Because schools couldn't help themselves but spend to win. And at a point, the machine ran so hot, you couldn't pretend it was an aww shucks mom and pop operation. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2022, 04:20:01 PM »
I think this is a case of creating a little more buzz-y games late in the season for smaller leagues. Which is fine.

The longer I watch sports, the more interested I am in the divide between overall sport watchers vs. specific team watchers. Basically, how big is the "more good games" upside. For CBB, admittedly somewhat marginal, but probably worth doing. For FB, gets more interesting, as the margins are so small.
I think it is a GREAT idea for the smaller leagues.  I also really like the flexible scheduling plan employed here and think it would work well for our league as well.  

As an Ohio State fan I've seen my team be everything from a horrible bottom-feeder to a #1 NCAA Seed legitimate NC Contender and literally everything in between.  I like a scheduling deal like this because it would add a game or two for each team that should be a challenging game which is great:
  • The best teams in the B1G, those competing for the highest NCAA Seeds would get a game against a similarly situated team from another league
  • The mid-range tournament teams (say #3-7 seed types) would get a game against a similarly situated team from another league
  • The bubble teams would gat a game against a similarly situated team from another league
  • The not-quite tournament teams would get a game against a similarly situated team from another league
  • The bottom-feeders would get a game against a similarly situated team from another league

I REALLY like that idea because each team gets an interesting game.  It is, IMHO, better than just scheduling your own OOC games.  If Ohio State schedules say Dook and Kentucky one year then Florida and Auburn the next those *MIGHT* be really interesting games:
  • Maybe Ohio State gets Dook and Kentucky in a year when Ohio State is REALLY good and those teams are as well and those games end up being top-tier games among true heavyweights.  Then the next year maybe Ohio State is more of a marginal tournament team and gets Gator and Tiger opponents that are also marginal tournament teams.  That would be great but . . .
  • Maybe Ohio State gets Blue Devil and Wildcat opponents in a year when those two are great and Ohio State is a bubble team (or worse) and the games are boring blowouts that nobody cares about.  Then the next year maybe Ohio State is great and gets Florida and Auburn opponents that are bubble teams (or worse) and the games are boring blowouts that nobody cares about.  

With a model like this you take away the guesswork.  If Ohio State is really good they'll get a really good opponent.  If they are a bubble team they'll get an opponent that is roughly a bubble team and if Ohio State is awful they'll get an awful opponent.  
I don't really care for OOC games after Christmas, to be honest. I'm probably in the minority on this one.
I think I understand where you are coming from but I just disagree.  The one thing I really don't like about the Challenge is that there are always a few complete mismatches based on how teams did in the prior year or were expected to do in the current year.  By moving these to late in the season and scheduling based on how good the teams actually are in the current season you'd eliminate the complete mismatches.  Instead every team would get a relatively comparable opponent.  

The other thing is that I think it would be GREAT Tournament prep to face a novel opponent in February.  When you are playing conference games you don't get any new opponents.  You are seeing teams that you see every year at least once a year and it just isn't the same game-prep routine as playing an opponent that you haven't seen in years or ever.  

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2022, 07:31:38 AM »
UW got a commitment from 2023 Top-100 forward Gus Yalden yesterday. Tons of offers. He's a Wisconsin kid, but now living and playing in North Carolina. Good to bring him back home.
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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2022, 08:04:19 AM »
UW got a commitment from 2023 Top-100 forward Gus Yalden yesterday. Tons of offers. He's a Wisconsin kid, but now living and playing in North Carolina. Good to bring him back home.
Interesting guy. Has weight to cut and a bit odd size wise (short, long arms). But he’s a skilled big, and that’s not a bad type to land. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2022, 11:30:36 PM »
Illinois is just reloading in the transfer market.  Can't wait to see this team.

 

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