2021 ludicruous recruting thread

[Honestbuckeye]

I think a lot of top recruits are getting something from bag men.

Thus, I assume if you get a lot of top recruits, you’re probably involved with bag men. Basically, if you’re recruiting like a top tier SEC school that offers basically the same NFL chance, and they’re paying, I’d be surprised if a school often beats out those teams without an inducement of some sort.

I think there are probably some UW bag men too. Not as many and not as intense.

But yeah, if you beat Clemson heads up for a blue chip guy, I’m going to assume they made an offer and something happened to overcome that.

I think you are way off and dead wrong. 

[bayareabadger]

I think you are way off and dead wrong.

That's certianly fair and I respect it. 

We're just talking about what we think about what we don't know. I should've been more charitable that it is very possible the kid just wanted to play ball for a different school or coach. My cynicism is showing through. 

[FearlessF]

I hope he's way off

[Honestbuckeye]

That's certianly fair and I respect it.

We're just talking about what we think about what we don't know. I should've been more charitable that it is very possible the kid just wanted to play ball for a different school or coach. My cynicism is showing through.

Have you seen how many DBs OSU has had drafted in the first two rounds the last 5-6 years?

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-ohio-state-dbu-in-pff-era

[847badgerfan]

I think almost all schools cheat to some degree. The only one that doesn't is mine, obviously...

Basketball is much worse, with all the handlers involved. 

[bayareabadger]

Have you seen how many DBs OSU has had drafted in the first two rounds the last 5-6 years?

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-ohio-state-dbu-in-pff-era

Eight. 

Clemson had four. Bama had 4-5. 

It's quite impressive. Ohio State has been very good at acquiring top talent and developing it to the point it gets taken high. 

[Honestbuckeye]

I am not naive. Bagmen exist.  

But if you look at some of these kids, and how they were raised, you might think differently.  

This particular kid comes from a very strong family.   Justin Fields, Haskins, Zeke Elliott,   I could name dozens.  

They come from backgrounds where their parents would not only not accept a cash bag- they would likely report the attempt.  

Sometimes boosters pull stuff behind the back of coaching staffs.  But if you start looking at some of the coaches, even the ones we may not like, they would never allow it.  Day, Harbaugh, Fleck, Chryst-go right down the list.  I believe they would not allow it but also not turn the other cheek.  Their entire careers and reputations would be destroyed.  

[FearlessF]

Pete Carroll?

he may have looked away

how about Gene Chizik?

[847badgerfan]

It's the boosters I worry about. 

It's one of the reasons the UW booster club no longer exists. PC wanted no part of it.

[Honestbuckeye]

Eight.

Clemson had four. Bama had 4-5.

It's quite impressive. Ohio State has been very good at acquiring top talent and developing it to the point it gets taken high.

Just certain positions.  For years they couldn’t get a QB drafted until Day came along and changed the offense with Haskins.  Same with WR, with a few exceptions, until recently. They have had their fair share of lineman, RBs, and above average at LB.  but DBs?  That’s one of the places you go to get NFL level development if your DB.

I think it’s one of those “the rich get richer” deals because all of the extra attention you get from conference championship games and going into the playoffs. So the teams that have historically gotten to those levels do you have an advantage built in without any bagman.

[Honestbuckeye]

Pete Carroll?

he may have looked away

how about Gene Chizik?

Oh yes.  There have been plenty.  

But do you think Frost would allow it?   No way IMHO.   As a coach with a bright future- Even if you didn’t know the difference between wrong and right, the risk is far too great for the price you would pay, especially given the chances of getting caught are very high

[bayareabadger]

Oh yes.  There have been plenty. 

But do you think Frost would allow it?  No way IMHO.  As a coach with a bright future- Even if you didn’t know the difference between wrong and right, the risk is far too great for the price you would pay, especially given the chances of getting caught are very high

I'm more skeptical of that, TBH.

I should also say, the coaches are usually uninvolved. Maybe it happens, but they know next to nothing. 

[Honestbuckeye]

Also- do some coaches stretch the truth, or make false or promises or negatively recruit? Well of course. 

But for these big name kids that is even becoming less frequent due to the overwhelming attention social media brings to recruiting.  Many of these kids openly discuss what the coaching staffs are telling them, how deep down the bench they are, what they have to do to become a starter, so it’s even harder to straight off the straight and arrow for the coaching staff these days

[FearlessF]

I'd like to think Frost wouldn't allow it, but I can't be certain.

coaches are under serious pressure to win - if there was a way a booster could get it done and all Frost had to do was distance himself and plead ignorance........ he might know enough but look away and ignore

most Husker fans would rather have a clean program that struggled, but the devil works in creative ways