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Topic: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #378 on: July 20, 2020, 07:53:26 PM »
Another reason I don't follow recruiting, commits change their minds, and this year may be more special than most.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #379 on: July 20, 2020, 10:40:57 PM »
I'm a bit curious why someone would decommit from Clemson and then commit to Ohio State (or vice versa).  Both obviously are top choices for any top level HS player.


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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #380 on: July 20, 2020, 10:46:27 PM »
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Clemson has better bag men. Didn’t you see all the pics of former 5* RB Mike Bellamy with $50k in cash lol.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #381 on: July 20, 2020, 10:54:17 PM »
Clemson has better bag men. Didn’t you see all the pics of former 5* RB Mike Bellamy with $50k in cash lol.
If Clemson has good bag men, and someone left their class for another program that always recruits well ... 

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #382 on: July 21, 2020, 09:49:52 AM »
If Clemson has good bag men, and someone left their class for another program that always recruits well ...
Ohio State is a blue blood program. One of the top 3-5 programs in CFB history, and have been on an historic run since Urban came in 2012. Them signing top kids year in year out makes complete sense.

Clemson was a nothing program just 5-6 years ago. Never won shit, in an armpit division in a shitty ACC conference, yet somehow all of a sudden just started signing 5*'s from all over the country. Makes total sense. Not.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #383 on: July 21, 2020, 10:58:35 AM »
perhaps his girlfriend decided to go to tOSU?
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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #384 on: July 21, 2020, 11:02:42 AM »
Clemson has won 10+ games for the past 9 years straight, with a lowest poll finish of 15 (10-3).

They won the NC in 1981.  They have been a respectable program for a while now, and have been recruiting lights out for the past few years.  Success breeds success.

Nothing wrong with choosing OSU of course, just a bit odd to commit early to one recent blue chip school and shift to another.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #385 on: July 21, 2020, 11:33:57 AM »
Ohio State is a blue blood program. One of the top 3-5 programs in CFB history, and have been on an historic run since Urban came in 2012. Them signing top kids year in year out makes complete sense.

Clemson was a nothing program just 5-6 years ago. Never won shit, in an armpit division in a shitty ACC conference, yet somehow all of a sudden just started signing 5*'s from all over the country. Makes total sense. Not.
Sure they are. And blue bloods have bag men. Lots of them. Probably more than non-Blue Bloods.

The ability of some people to assume something they've not looked at simply didn't exist is always impressive. From 1977 to 2010, when Clemson started taking off in a big way, they were a whole 17th in winning percentage nationally. They had a national title. Now the right bag man moment took them to where they are, but the goofiness of calling that a "nothing program is high."

Getting back to the topic. If you assume someone is being given monies, are they more likely leaving because A. Gosh, that blood sure is blue up there. It's cold and I can take a pay cut, but at least I get to compete farther from home, or B. There's some money up that way as well.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #386 on: July 21, 2020, 11:38:14 AM »
Were I a 5 star player, I'd be looking almost entirely at which program can get me playing on Sundays as a first rounder as a motivation.

Maybe if there is a virtual tie, some under the table money to my "uncle" would sway me.  And of course when does the money change hands?  A commit is a near nothing, and once you sign and are locked in, what is the payer revokes, you can't really sue him.

Maybe there is some half now and half later going on, dunno, if so I'd play the field, but I'm risking  a lot of course, for a fraction of what my signing bonus would be.


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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #387 on: July 21, 2020, 11:40:38 AM »
I'd guess the decisions of a teenage boy aren't as complicated.  A relationship with a coach, a relationship with a player currently on the roster, a relationship with another recruit that is going to that school, or possibly checking how many 1st round draft picks one program had over another.

might even be something logical such as the academic angle of his desired major.  Nah! 
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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #388 on: July 21, 2020, 11:41:46 AM »
Maybe if there is a virtual tie, some under the table money to my "uncle" would sway me.  And of course when does the money change hands?  A commit is a near nothing, and once you sign and are locked in, what is the payer revokes, you can't really sue him.



no, but the Uncle might get a knee cap broken
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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #389 on: July 21, 2020, 11:48:40 AM »
I think often it is a coaching relationship.  They already would have checked on which programs fit their NFL aspirations.  Depth at their position would be a factor, which they can check easily enough.  They all want to play a lot as freshmen besides STs.

I was curious why say Justin Fields would sign with UGA when their QB room was full.  I was curious why Daniels would transfer to UGA.  There are possible reasons, I just don't know what they are, so I'm curious.  I think Fields thought he could beat out Fromm.  And he did, in a sense.

D'Andre Swift chose UGA knowing he would have relative few carries as a freshman, and share as a sophomore, he still got to the NFL after three years, not quite a first rounder.  Chubb was not quite a first rounder also.


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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #390 on: July 21, 2020, 12:18:25 PM »
Were I a 5 star player, I'd be looking almost entirely at which program can get me playing on Sundays as a first rounder as a motivation.
Ohio State is killing it here as well. Just look at 2020 NFL Draft. First 3 picks were all Urban Meyer recruits.

Yeah, we know why Joe Burrow transferred- because a top 10 overall NFL draft pick QB- Dwayne Haskins- beat him out. And then who does OSU go and replace Haskins with? Another guy that is going to be a virtual lock to be a top 5-10 pick.

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Re: 2021 ludicruous recruting thread
« Reply #391 on: July 21, 2020, 12:21:16 PM »
Sure they are. And blue bloods have bag men. Lots of them. Probably more than non-Blue Bloods.
Not true. At all. Blue bloods don't need the bag men to attract top players. Blue bloods attract top players by default. And when they have all-time great coaches like a Meyer or Saban? Forget about it.

A little redneck shithole program like Clemson- which is what they were before 10 years ago- well of course they have to cheat to attract top players. There was literally zero reason for any top players to go there before 10 years ago. Now? They have tens of thousands of reasons.

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