I've never seen UGA with anything like this many 5 start "commits" in 2019, or 2018. It's unreal.Kirby has been on a tear.
In-state recruiting continues to shine with the commitment of Lakeville, MN OT Riley Mahlman this morning.Badge, do you need a geography lesson? :smiley_confused1:
https://247sports.com/Player/Riley-Mahlman-46053457/
Looks like there is another one too, but not announced yet.
Class is off to a pretty nice start.
https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Season/2021-Football/Commits/
4 star receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. has committed to the Buckeyes out of PhiladelphiaOhio State murdering it on the crootin’ trail.
4 star receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. has committed to the Buckeyes out of PhiladelphiaWay to get the 2nd best WR in his own house
Way to get the 2nd best WR in his own houseHopefully he's second place in his household for shooting people too
UGA signed a tight end who is supposed to be good. They have the highest player average now with 20 commits or signees. I don't get too worked up over recruiting because I've seen teams recruit at a high level and then go 8-5 (Texas), but it's better than the alternative. They could use that running back out of California now.Are you talking 2020?
Are you talking 2020?Yes.
FU, OSU. FU.LOL hey if that means we have a football season I'm for it
One of these days, the Badgers are gonna beat your ass. One of these days. Maybe one time.
FU, OSU. FU.Meh. It's not that hard.
One of these days, the Badgers are gonna beat your ass. One of these days. Maybe one time.
Even a blind pig finds an AppleYeah, but when you can find that apple more times percentage-wise than any other Big Ten team in the last 20 years, at some point it goes beyond luck. :72:
LOL hey if that means we have a football season I'm for itHellz Yes
Yeah, but when you can find that apple more times percentage-wise than any other Big Ten team in the last 20 years, at some point it goes beyond luck.The Horror
I thought Chris Paul was a basketball player?I thought he was Carlton from Fresh Prince?
Maryland is making some noise on the recruiting trail these days.Hey now
And, oh yeah..
F OSU.
Bucks get commitment from 5 star RB Treveyon Henderson out of Virginiarich just getting richer. Insane. OSU is just a machine. Harbaugh will never catch up imo.
Recruiting dead period extended from 4/15 to 5/31.Dantonio was just ahead of the curve on extended recruiting dead periods
Dantonio was just ahead of the curve on extended recruiting dead periodsYou could say his departure helped flatten it?
Sounds like Penn State is about to clean up on a bunch of Detroit recruitsUW had those King brothers on the hook to commit on a March visit, and then the virus happened. Allowed PSU to get back into it.
UW had those King brothers on the hook to commit on a March visit, and then the virus happened. Allowed PSU to get back into it.Not entirely sure what damage Blackwell is doing in the city. He made it un-recruitable for MSU, and I'm sure having his lawsuit thrown out and his attorneys punished didn't help that; but remember Harbaugh was going to be deposed too.
The question is, where was Michigan here? MSU I get, with the coaching stuff, but Michigan? I thought Cass Tech was the feeder school. Did this change?
Sounds like Penn State is about to clean up on a bunch of Detroit recruitsWho?
Who?King brothers and Jaylen Reed.
Who?Supposedly Penn State is also in line to get Jamari Buddin. (https://247sports.com/player/jamari-buddin-46053651)
Perhaps it is because MSU is in a bit of turmoil right now, and Harbaugh's star has lost a bit of its luster?I think you hit the nail on the head right there. MSU is a mess right now, and Harbaugh has definitely lost his shine. He's gotten his brains beaten in by OSU, 0-5.
UW has pulled a good amount of kids out of Michigan in the past several cycles. That never used to happen.Blackwell blacklisted MSU to SE MI kids
I notice MSU's Tucker and Gilmore are offering a lot of in-state Wisconsin kids lately. Gilmore knows a lot about them.
UW has pulled a good amount of kids out of Michigan in the past several cycles.Good,good Michigan is a very good place to recruit.Glad the scales have finally fallen from BA's eyes.😎
It started a bit before the Blackwell thing went down, but after it really took off. In 2018 they took 5 kids. Maybe MSU and M didn't want them? 2019 was Logan Brown and a WR. The LB for 2020 had offers from both. Everyone wanted Logan Brown.The Blackwell thing started in 2017. The first two kids he mentored after that both committed to UW.
The Blackwell thing started in 2017. The first two kids he mentored after that both committed to UW.OK, I'm stuck in the house, bored out of my mind. You can't just make a statement like this without explaining it some... haha
The Blackwell thing started in 2017. The first two kids he mentored after that both committed to UW.Which ones would that be?
Which ones would that be?A.J. Abbott and Taj Mustafa.
A.J. Abbott and Taj Mustafa.This is their year, as they are now sophomores and UW lost Cephus (early NFL) and AJ Taylor (graduation). Plenty of room to contribute now. Last year was pretty crowded.
I don't think either one exactly panned out
Not sure if I've ever said this before, but F OSU. PSU too.Did Penn State offer a Wisconsin guy or something?
And stay the hell out of Wisconsin. There are plenty of other states to throw out your 5,000,000 "offers".
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OK, I'm stuck in the house, bored out of my mind. You can't just make a statement like this without explaining it some... hahaBlackwell ran a camp in Detroit, and was as dialed into the Detroit recruiting scene as anybody. MSU hired him, basically to deliver Detroit to them.
Not sure if I've ever said this before, but F OSU. PSU too.Barry started it!
And stay the hell out of Wisconsin.
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I'm guessing it's someone Partridge had a relationship with before leaving UM for the Grove?Maybe I missed this or just forgot.Jeem might have to stop wearing holes in the seat of his Khakis and earn some of that coin now.He can talk to the recruits from the trees - social distancing and all that
Not sure if I've ever said this before, but F OSU. PSU too.(https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS)on
And stay the hell out of Wisconsin. There are plenty of other states to throw out your 5,000,000 "offers".
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(https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS)onI know. Just venting. Although PSU is up there. Nebraska is ridiculous.
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I know. Just venting. Although PSU is up there. Nebraska is ridiculous.Look how smart and tight the Badgers do it. It supports your point. I am impressed by Clemson too
What is their hit rate? I imagine 4+ and 5 star players have many offers, including offers from OSU/Bama/Clemson/UGA/UF/Texas/USC ... etc. Their hit rate might be 10% perhaps.For UW?
I know. Just venting. Although PSU is up there. Nebraska is ridiculous.I smell desperation in the top 12
I know. Just venting. Although PSU is up there. Nebraska is ridiculous.Franklin casts a wide net and sees what the interest levels are. If a recruit isn't interested he'll send another offer out. Paterno was more surgical in his approach. He would investigate a recruit's interest, and then send out a letter.
How are those offers worded? I imagine they have some kind of contingency language, no?Ain't no letters and wording.
Would be neat to see a typical offer letter.
Shortly after his decomit another recruit jumped on board, and the 4 star lost his spot. The 4 star ended up really regretting his decision and waited until the bitter end for a scholarship to open up. It never did.He must have been a marginal 4* then,perhaps with inuries
I smell desperation in the top 12Coming perhaps from the virus not the Bugeaters
Recruiting is like dating - you can be good at it or bad at it, but there isn't one magical strategy.Damn you're a romantic - I'll give you that.I'm sure the wife would like to share your sweet nothings.Or is this what is said in the forum stays in the forum? :bluegrab:
Damn you're a romantic - I'll give you that.I'm sure the wife would like to share your sweet nothings.Or is this what is said in the forum stays in the forum? :bluegrab:She doesn't need to know how many offers I sent out
Ain't no letters and wording.If it's not in writing, it's nothing, not an offer of anything. A verbal for a verbal?
It's all illusory. And sometimes a kid is "offered" but they won't take a commit just yet.
He must have been a marginal 4* then,perhaps with inuriesNo injuries.
Frost let the Gophers snag the top recruit in their state? :57:
Other teams have been taking the best players out of Minnesota for years. And let's not forget.....the Gophers just had the Big Ten Defensive Back of the Year (Antoine Winfield Jr.). Kid had his choice of damn near any top school.Yes. This year too. :)
some kids just love the carnival barker
Frost let the Gophers snag the top recruit in their state? :57:
some kids just love the carnival barker
Nebraska taking Minnesota's top players is not the same thing as Minnesota taking Nebraska's top players.I know. Normally Wisconsin gets Minnesota's top players.
I know. Normally Wisconsin gets Minnesota's top players.
MSU gets their QB, 3* Hamp Fay (not a typo), who chose MSU over Colorado, Boise State, Indiana and PittAs a sophomore, he was the best WR on the team that won the Texas 5A state title, before taking over as QB as a junior. He's certainly fast. If there is a season this year, will be interested to see how he trends.
Penn State gets a commitment from 4 star QB Christian Veilleux. He chose Penn State over Michigan.never heard of him. As far as I knew, Michigan was only taking 1 QB. And they already have 5* QB JJ McCarthy, the #14 player overall, and #2 Pro-Style QB in the 247Composite rankings.
I'm going to update this list with a few more PSU recruits over the last few weeks.
But I just got another alert this minute with a new commitment...
never heard of him. As far as I knew, Michigan was only taking 1 QB. And they already have 5* QB JJ McCarthy, the #14 player overall, and #2 Pro-Style QB in the 247Composite rankings.Well really the chief competition was from Clemson, but I'm trying to keep my theme going here. :)
On 4/19 Four-Star Safety Jaylen Reed Commits to Penn State over MichiganJust unacceptable imo. Michigan is taking a beating with in-state recruiting this year. It's one of the best classes that the state of Michigan has produced in years, and Harbaugh is taking it on the chin.
on 4/10 Four-Star ATH Zakee Wheatley chooses Penn State over Michigan stateNever heard of him. Any relation to Tyrone? That would hurt.
never heard of him. As far as I knew, Michigan was only taking 1 QB. And they already have 5* QB JJ McCarthy, the #14 player overall, and #2 Pro-Style QB in the 247Composite rankings.The Badgers were in that one for a while, and then he blew up. I'd have really liked to have seen what Paul Chryst could have done with him in Madison. PC has a pretty good record of getting kids to the NFL. Even Joel Stave collected a check for a good while.
Never heard of him. Any relation to Tyrone? That would hurt.I don't think so. Last I heard that one really came down to PSU, WVU, UMD, and UW. He was supposed to visit Madison in March, but then...
The Badgers were in that one for a while, and then he blew up. I'd have really liked to have seen what Paul Chryst could have done with him in Madison. PC has a pretty good record of getting kids to the NFL. Even Joel Stave collected a check for a good while.Well if I could talk to the kid, I would advise the kid to stay the hell away from Harbaugh. He seems to be really, really, really ridiculously good in high school. But so were Shea Patterson and Brandon Peters. How'd those guys work out under Harbaugh?
Never heard of him. Any relation to Tyrone? That would hurt.He didn't receive an offer from UM, but he did get one from MSU. I was just sticking with my theme... note the small "state" after Michigan. Supposed to be somewhat funny.:57:
4* CB Charles Brantley from Florida commits to MSU over FSUDropped to composite 3* two days later. Some things never change.
Day hasn't gotten our allotment of Keystone Stars so load up on "M" Guys all you want.Penn State doesn't get too many PA players either. PSU, ND, Ohio State, WVA, MSU and UM compete heavily for the handful of recruits in the western part of the state. The eastern side of the state has seen an influx of the likes of Clemson and Alabama. Fortunately PSU holds their own and they have a very large recruiting area.
Looks more and more likely that Penn State will be getting a 4th player out of Michigan. Penn State is supposed to have a relatively small class, too.One of the Rivals guys just flipped his pick on Buddin from PSU to MSU. Granted his rating also dropped, but that's expected.
Three-Star IN DE Rodney McGraw Commits to Penn State over Michigan.Wonder where Anonymous Coward is we had some robust discourse regarding UM/PSU.Think it was your Penn State preseason thread or sum such.I remember jousting with him on Franklin-Moorehead.Well Moorehead is already out and Franklin is angling for the hardware in the east - bastage
He's also a flip from Indiana, but most importantly he chose PSU over UM. (gotta stick with the theme here)
Wonder where Anonymous Coward is we had some robust discourse regarding UM/PSU.Think it was your Penn State preseason thread or sum such.I remember jousting with him on Franklin-Moorehead.Well Moorehead is already out and Franklin is angling for the hardware in the east - bastageYeah where is he?
One of the Rivals guys just flipped his pick on Buddin from PSU to MSU. Granted his rating also dropped, but that's expected.Allen Triue had him @ 70% M,but he's an M guy isn't he.Anyway the kid looks like the type MD would scoop up 6'-2" rated as 4*
Yeah where is he?I dunno,he'd have some intersting input being a lab guy(i think) on the Covid thread.Seemingly he got scarce after the Badgers waterboarded the maize and blue.Hope all is well with him......running out of their fans to rub it in on :celebrate:
Wonder where Anonymous Coward is we had some robust discourse regarding UM/PSU.Think it was your Penn State preseason thread or sum such.I remember jousting with him on Franklin-Moorehead.Well Moorehead is already out and Franklin is angling for the hardware in the east - bastageI always thought he was a second account for rude comments. Like Super Mario’s alt or something.
I always thought he was a second account for rude comments. Like Super Mario’s alt or something.Nah. He actually has not been here since UW crashed Michigan last year. Shame, really.
I always thought he was a second account for rude comments. Like Super Mario’s alt or something.Was he the same guy as Dudek (or something like that) on the old CFN board?
Nah. He actually has not been here since UW crashed Michigan last year. Shame, really.I didn't think it was possible to put out more offers than the new MSU staff has been. I don't even get the point of it.
Anyway...
https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS/status/1257392610106359808
Was he the same guy as Dudek (or something like that) on the old CFN board?Yeah, same guy.
If so, I thought that he was a good poster, although a little bit of a contrarian. He had good information and perspective, I thought.
Have to make sure he sees film of UM/MSU 2015 block-Six.That guy was an Aussie as I recallI blame Harbaugh not the punter. There was 8 seconds left in that game.
Or at the very least bring your gunner in, rather than split out wide when MSU had nobody back, and nobody out on him?Well @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) will tell you that 8 seconds is fine, but 10 seconds is too long.
But the punter did still drop the ball.
I think 8 seconds is also too much time to try what you are suggesting.
Or at the very least bring your gunner in, rather than split out wide when MSU had nobody back, and nobody out on him?What you suggest is also correct.
But the punter did still drop the ball.
I think 8 seconds is also too much time to try what you are suggesting.
I blame Wisconsin's Rose Bowl loss on the punter.I say we just get rid of punters and kickers all together. I think it's stupid to allow soccer players to decide the fates of football players.
I blame Harbaugh not the punter. There was 8 seconds left in that game.At that time I think we did,there was ablocked return a few weeks earlier.None of big programs though.I would have let the punter grab it and sweep wide even fake a toss.That would have chewed up the bulk of time
What you suggest is also correct.I'd forgotten how many moving pieces there were in that. Honestly, on replay it was so very much on the punter, first with the drop and then not just falling on it.
Maybe 8 seconds is too much time to do what I suggested, but regardless Harbaugh did the wrong thing. I blame that L on him, not the Aussie punter.
Bucks get a commitment from no star punter Jesse Mirco out of AustraliaMSU picked one up yesterday too. We added one a couple years ago, but he left after last year to go back due to homesickness.
I would bet an Aussie punter is still tougher than any QBThe Aussie punter MSU just got is 6'4" 220
that's typical QB sizeYeah, but while they whine that an arm inadvertent hit the side of their helmets, Aussie punters are presumably wrestling kangaroos.
Hope that's all they're doingI've read the inside of those pouches are sticky.
Wombats have reverse pouches. The opening is toward the tail rather than the head.Guess mom is trying to tell them something
is it similar to noodling and grabbing a snapping turtle?I remember Mike Rowe on Dirty Jobs did a segment on Noodling.He was with some Noodler who sold catfish to restuarants.These good old boys had a lot of fun at MR's expense.For instance they'd show him how to get in a squating stance by a rock pile or stump getting his hand under there.After he was in position these guys would throw these quips out there like."Oh by the way watch out for snapping turtles - that'll end your day right there" or "Kinda sux when you're bent over and a water moccasins latches onto your backside" Talk about nervous laughter,not sure I want to go noodling.There were even wominz doing it
Guess mom is trying to tell them somethingIt's so mama doesn't get dirt in the pouch when she is digging.
https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=NE (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=NE)This is one of the reasons that I think Nebraska is the most likely helmet to forfeit that designation over time. Demographically, recruiting to Nebraska is a nightmare.
Nebraska talent for 2021... I have not kept up with local recruiting and frankly have not invested in UNL sports as in the past. However, I did ask a few people that I know still keep up with recruiting.
Minn flat out outworked UNL for Dickerson. Johnson wanted to go out of state and his dad (legacy) was the main reason UNL finished 2nd. The local thoughts as expressed to me is he did not want to follow his dad but create his own path.
I know there is a lot of optimism regarding the OT and they think Haarberg would be higher ranked if he lived in a decent sized metro.
UNL does not have the local talent levels of many states. There is a lot of development.. long term investment needed. Losing 2 of the top 5 in the state is tough.
sounds like 4* OLB Jamari Budden from Belleville High School isn’t being recruited by Michigan anymore.I remember some stink a few years ago when Harbaugh called out Lavert Hill in a press conference. Crowell lost his mind on twitter talking about how low class it was.
Belleville’s head coach Jermain Crowell has some kind of beef with the Michigan coaches. According to the top Michigan sports insider Sam Webb, Michigan isn’t recruiting the school anymore so long as Crowell is the head coach.
Makes total sense Jim. Escalate tensions with one of the top talent producing high schools in your state. A state that produces very little high level D1 talent as is.
Harbaugh is a fool. He should be trying to repair the rift with Crowell and Belleville, not throw gasoline and light a match on it.
This is one of the reasons that I think Nebraska is the most likely helmet to forfeit that designation over time. Demographically, recruiting to Nebraska is a nightmare.I think that the move to the Big Ten, while good for Nebraska as an academic institution, has delivered a powerful blow to Nebraska football. Nebraska was better situated as the northern outpost of the Big 8, and even the Big 12, than it is as the western outpost of the B1G.
Low in-state talent and probably not great for regional (SD/ND/MT/WY) talent in nearby states without P5 schools either.
I remember some stink a few years ago when Harbaugh called out Lavert Hill in a press conference. Crowell lost his mind on twitter talking about how low class it was.It wasn’t Harbaugh it was the CB coach Zordich. Crowell used to coach Hill way back in the day as an assistant at Cass Tech before going over to Belleville and becoming the head coach.
It wasn’t Harbaugh it was the CB coach Zordich. Crowell used to coach Hill way back in the day as an assistant at Cass Tech before going over to Belleville and becoming the head coach.Ah, gotcha. Not a good look.
Ah, gotcha. Not a good look.There's a saying that was very prevalent during my 20 years in the Army: "One awshit wipes out a hundred attaboys." That's probably not completely true, but it's truer than it should be, because it encourages a don't-rock-the-boat mentality that loses wars.
Frankly, a lot of this stuff happens the longer a coaching staff is in place. Paterno had a fair amount of rocky relationships with high schools.
Ah, gotcha. Not a good look.Crowell has deep ties in Detroit and all the top kids and their families know of him. Belleville is an important school right now for Michigan because they are producing a lot of P5 level talent year in year out.
Frankly, a lot of this stuff happens the longer a coaching staff is in place. Paterno had a fair amount of rocky relationships with high schools.
I think that the move to the Big Ten, while good for Nebraska as an academic institution, has delivered a powerful blow to Nebraska football. Nebraska was better situated as the northern outpost of the Big 8, and even the Big 12, than it is as the western outpost of the B1G.Well they evidently had connections in Texas with 4 schools playing in conference.A kid from there could go to UNL and vist or be visited by the Lone Star Schools and players
I'll be happy if it turns out that I'm wrong about that.
Well they evidently had connections in Texas with 4 schools playing in conference.A kid from there could go to UNL and vist or be visited by the Lone Star Schools and playersWe'd have to go back and look at rosters and playing time to verify that, but it sure seems that that would be the case.
Where UNL recruited well in the past had more to do with relationships than a region. Texas really never was a hot spot for UNL. You'd have great players from Texas, but big numbers. UNL has always recruited nationally, but really focused on the states around Nebraska. I'd argue losing Missouri kids hurt more. UNL has not recruited Missouri like they did back in the Big8.It might have been better for all concerned had Mizzou and Nebraska gone into the B1G together.
MSU picks up 3* OG Kevin Wiginton from NJ over USC, Tennessee, Maryland, UCLA, Pitt and VandyWeird hard line from Rutgers coaches to lose this lifelong Rutgers fan
Michigan 5* QB commit JJ McCarthy of Illinois is transferring to IMG Academy in Florida for his senior year. That's potentially huge news for Michigan's recruiting efforts. McCarthy was already a lead recruiter for offensive prospects in Michigan's 2021 and 2022 class. There isn't a high school in the entire US with more talent than IMG Academy.Or you could get the typical Penn State experience -- they go down to Florida with big time recruits all trying to recruit HIM. Eventually they decommit in order to play for the SEC.
If he proves himself there and some of those teammates love playing with him- they just might be inclined to follow him to Ann Arbor. And it could also really help accelerate his development. IMG's entire coaching staff and support staff is virtually all former NFL players/trainers/coaches. He'll have the best resources available to him for improving his game of any program in high school, and just the competition day in and day out in practice going up against the top HS talent in the country should make any truly competitive player better.
Or you could get the typical Penn State experience -- they go down to Florida with big time recruits all trying to recruit HIM. Eventually they decommit in order to play for the SEC.Worked out ok with KJ Hamler
I would NOT be happy about this if I were you.
Or you could get the typical Penn State experience -- they go down to Florida with big time recruits all trying to recruit HIM. Eventually they decommit in order to play for the SEC.
I would NOT be happy about this if I were you.
Big Ten recruiting powers through pandemic with more than 100 commits over last two monthsKids are bored. A lot of them haven't even seen campus, let alone had an official visit. My guess is decommitment percentages are also going to be up.
By Sam McKewon World-Herald staff writer
https://www.omaha.com/sports/college/huskers/recruiting/big-ten-recruiting-powers-through-pandemic-with-more-than-100-commits-over-last-two-months/article_d43fe6c9-d8c1-531b-94a0-4d23ea568b89.amp.html (https://www.omaha.com/sports/college/huskers/recruiting/big-ten-recruiting-powers-through-pandemic-with-more-than-100-commits-over-last-two-months/article_d43fe6c9-d8c1-531b-94a0-4d23ea568b89.amp.html)
Some outside news - it's way too early to call this a trend yet, but Cal and USC's early 2021 recruiting seem to be benefiting from Washington losing Petersen. There's still a long way to go, but both have wrapped up the type of California prospects that in the past five years would've been locked down by the Huskies. Too early to tell, but we'll see.The state of California has been bleeding elite recruits leaving the state for programs on the other side of the country. USC being a shit show for a decade has opened the flood gates to the entire country.
Sounds like 4* TE Jack Pugh out of Hilliard, OH is going to commit to UW on Monday. No, OSU offer, but UM and PSU both did, as did MSU. For all the TEs they've developed, would he be the highest rated coming in?Sort of. He would be the highest who is listed as a tight end. They converted a defensive end and WR who were rated higher.
Sort of. He would be the highest who is listed as a tight end. They converted a defensive end and WR who were rated higher.Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.
Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.I meant LB when I wrote DE. I knew Beckum was kinda a hybrid.
The state of California has been bleeding elite recruits leaving the state for programs on the other side of the country. USC being a shit show for a decade has opened the flood gates to the entire country.
It was incredibly rare for Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, etc., etc.. to pull elite recruits from California. Under Pete Carroll this basically never happened.
California would lose an elite 5* here or there to Oregon and out of area to like Notre Dame or maybe Michigan or Ohio State or Florida State once in awhile. That was basically it.
Now it’s a free for all.
Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.I always liked him,think he only did like 4-5 yrs in the League.He had good hands and speed.Can't remember who was tossing the rock to him
I always liked him,think he only did like 4-5 yrs in the League.He had good hands and speed.Can't remember who was tossing the rock to himHe was kinda a big WR. Not much of a blocker. He was weirdly UW's most productive TE, but there's at least 2-3 I'd take ahead of him.
4* LB out of Tennessee, Junior Colson commits to Michigan.Michigan, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Notre Dame were mentioned elsewhere as former Kings now sliding--or having already slid--into Dukes' territory.
Michigan, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Notre Dame were mentioned elsewhere as former Kings now sliding--or having already slid--into Dukes' territory.Eh, one offs happen all the time. Tennessee is still recruiting quite well.
A Tennessee program going well doesn't lose a 4-star linebacker to a Michigan program that still disappoints.
Could academics be the reason?
Eh, one offs happen all the time. Tennessee is still recruiting quite well.Yeah.
Yeah.a) Michigan can still recruit nationally- it is still a big-time brand. Maybe not quite to the degree that Clemson or Bama or Ohio State can at the moment- and honestly no one is recruiting at that level right now- maybe Georgia as well- and that's pretty much it. Michigan can still however pull top kids from anywhere in the country. When they were a dominant brand in the 90s and early 2000s- they used to be able to recruit on that same level. When you fail to win and slide into mediocrity- the dominant recruiting wanes. But Michigan is still a name brand and the block M can at least get them in the door into almost any recruitment.
But it's not like he just committed to Clemson or Bama.
Anyway, I think Pugh will commit to State Penn.Who?
Anyway, I think Pugh will commit to State Penn.Based on those crystal balls, chances are good he's already picked UW.
I think Felix Jones went to Arky.I think you might be right. Now I can't remember who I was thinking of who went to Tennessee.
I think you might be right. Now I can't remember who I was thinking of who went to Tennessee.You're thinking of Robert Meachem?
No matter, OU needs to recruit Tulsa better.
Based on those crystal balls, chances are good he's already picked UW.Probably so.
You're thinking of Robert Meachem?Robert Meachem was who I was thinking of when I mentioned Felix Jones. I believe that they are both grads of Tulsa Booker T. Washington H.S. As are all of the Locketts who went to K-State.
Also got David Oku, Gerald Jones.
Based on those crystal balls, chances are good he's already picked UW.He picked UW
3* S Gabe Nealy from Miami picks MSU over Miami, Nebraska, Kentucky, Minnesota, and PittTalks a ton of shit on Michigan, is the most outspoken guy trying to get other recruits, then decommits a month later. Weird move
He picked UWYep, I was wrong. The kid was on PSU's campus for a tour (no contact with coaches) at the time of my post, which is why I thought he was going there.
I thought Michigan was doing badly in-state recruiting, and then I saw Penn State in Pennsylvania....sheesh.This ain’t all that unusual. Western PA has always been tough to crack with OSU/Pitt etc.
Top 10 players ranked in order in PA, according to 247Composite
1) 5 STARZ - OT Nolan Rucci - 50/50 Crystal BALLZ split between PSU and Wisconsin
2) 5 STARZ - QB Kyle McCord - Ohio State commit
3) 4* LB Jeremiah Trotter - Clemson commit
4) 4* S Derrick Davis Jr. - PSU leading with 66% of the CRYSTAL BALLZ but Clemson and Ohio State still in it
5) 4* WR Marvin Harrison Jr. - Ohio State commit
6) 4* DT Elliot Donald - 100% CRYSTAL BALLZ to Pitt. Nephew of former Pitt superstar Aaron Donald.
7) 4* DE Elijah Jeudy - Georgia commit
8) 4* DE Nahki Johnson - Pitt commit
9) 4* S Tysheem Johnson - 100% Crystal BALLZ to Ole Miss. Heavy lean to Ole Miss.
10) 3* S Donovan McMillan - Penn State is currently not in his top 5.
Penn State could legitimately not land a single top 10 player in it's own state.
This ain’t all that unusual. Western PA has always been tough to crack with OSU/Pitt etc.Michigan used to clean up in Western PA. They landed so many good players from there in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.
Yep, I was wrong. The kid was on PSU's campus for a tour (no contact with coaches) at the time of my post, which is why I thought he was going there.Bag Men
Maybe he got there and realized that State College ain't Madison. :)
MADISON – Blake Wilcox, a decorated punter/kicker from Kettle Moraine High School who joined the Wisconsin football program in 2019 as a preferred walk-on, insists he was surprised to learn he is not being asked to return in 2020.Not really recruiting, but OK. Sounds like the kid was a cancer in the locker room. On to the next walk-on.
"It wasn't my choice at all," Wilcox said Tuesday. "I think it wasn’t a good representation of the program on their end."
According to Wilcox:
Eric Johnson, UW's executive director of football administration, called on May 15 to inform Wilcox he would not have a roster spot in 2020.
Wilcox redshirted last season and was listed on the team’s spring roster. He was expected to battle for the punting job.
UW officials have not commented publicly on the reason Wilcox isn’t being asked back. They would only confirm Tuesday that he is not expected to be on the team in 2020.
Wilcox acknowledged he took a leave of absence from the football program shortly after the beginning of winter workouts in January. He estimated he was gone for about three weeks but added he tried to keep the staff aware of how he was doing.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2020/05/26/punter-blake-wilcox-surprised-wisconsins-decision-his-status/5261209002/ (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2020/05/26/punter-blake-wilcox-surprised-wisconsins-decision-his-status/5261209002/)
JC Latham has not been recruited by Wisconsin in over a year. They have their two Plan A guys, with an eye still on Nolan Rucci. Latham's offer was pulled. Have at it.Steve Witflong, the top recruiting guy over at 247Sports put in a BALLZ for Rucci to Wisconsin recently.
Steve Witflong, the top recruiting guy over at 247Sports put in a BALLZ for Rucci to Wisconsin recently.Yeah, but not horrible. It's more him honestly. When UW offered in 2018, it was at the DL spot. Then he grew more and got to OT, where UW is and has been set for a while now, even without Rucci. Rucci would be a luxury at this point, and the only OL that would still be a take right now, with JP Benzschawel and Riley Mahlman already in the class.
Barton Simmons, the top scouting guy over at 247 has JC Latham as the #3 player overall in the entire nation and says he’s got a great shot to grab that #1 spot.
Is there a particular reason why Wisconsin pulled the offer? Is there bad blood there?
4-star dual-threat QB Sam Jackson decommitted from Minnesota and committed to the Boilers.Not convinced he's actually a QB. MSU RS freshman Peyton Thorne was the strarter when Johnson was the backup, and MSU offered him as a WR. Not sure he fits what Brohm likes in a QB.
https://www.hammerandrails.com/2020/6/10/21287360/2021-purdue-football-recruiting-sam-jackson-minnesota-flip (https://www.hammerandrails.com/2020/6/10/21287360/2021-purdue-football-recruiting-sam-jackson-minnesota-flip)
Not convinced he's actually a QB. MSU RS freshman Peyton Thorne was the strarter when Johnson was the backup, and MSU offered him as a WR. Not sure he fits what Brohm likes in a QB.
Not convinced he's actually a QB. MSU RS freshman Peyton Thorne was the strarter when Johnson was the backup, and MSU offered him as a WR. Not sure he fits what Brohm likes in a QB.Brohm has been recruiting more mobile/dual threat types than in the past. For a long time it seemed he wanted the 6'4"+ statuesque QB with a rocket arm, but I think he learned when seeing Sindelar and Blough that sometimes that statue is just a really big target when you have OL troubles. Mobility was important for Purdue QBs the last several years.
Yeah, I'm fine with non-statue QBs. I just think he's a pure running threat QB. If you want him to throw 30 times a game, I don't see it. I liked him as a slot WR, which is what MSU was offering him as, although he seemed determined to play QB. My guess is that he never takes a QB snap for the Boilers, but you have a pretty solid slot WR.I don't know much about him yet. I wonder how much his recruitment was based on the "will I be a QB?" question... If he thinks he's the next Lamar Jackson, he might make playing QB a sticking point. And honestly, he does seem to have a pretty decent arm.
5* OT JC Latham (6-6, 305) of IMG Academy - 5*, the #17 player overall and the #3 OT in the nation according to the 247Sports composite- is posting lot of heavy pro Michigan stuff all over his social media, according to the MGoBlog.Committed to Bama
Latham is originally from Wisconsin, and very early on in his recruitment had been considered a heavy Michigan lean if not even lock before he decided to transfer to IMG and move to Florida last year. Moves to Florida, blows up into a 5* recruit and suddenly Michigan is an after-thought and he's all OSU, Bama, LSU. Whatever. It happens. Michigan isn't winning on the field in the game that matters, so you expect that sort of crash and burn of recruiting momentum.
Normally I'm not one to look into this stuff too much, and it still is probably nothing, but 5* Michigan commit JJ McCarthy (6-2, 195) literally just transferred to IMG and just got down to IMG/Florida days ago. McCarthy is probably the strongest recruiter Michigan has, and no doubt he's been all in Latham's ear since he's been there. I don't know if Latham winds up at Michigan, but I'd bet good money at least 1 kid from IMG wind up at Michigan in this class or the next in large part because of JJ McCarthy's being down there and recruiting them non-stop. If he kicks ass and takes names this year and shows all these guys he's the real deal, he'll get a couple to follow him I'd bet.
Wisconsin took 5* OT Logan Brown from Michigan in 2019. The state owes us a 5* OT in return. Come on down JC Latham.
Committed to BamaWent south on OSU in a hurry
Committed to BamaI’m sick of those guys. OSU too.
Although Wisconsin has a loaded linebacker class in 2021, the Badgers still appear to be in the (https://247sports.com/Player/Yanni-Karlaftis-46051894)Yanni Karlaftis (https://247sports.com/Player/Yanni-Karlaftis-46051894) sweepstakes. One of their top targets since last fall, UW continues to stay in touch with the composite Top247 prospect, who is eying a decision late in the summer or early fall.Obviously most think he's a Boiler lean, being from West Lafayette and with his brother on the team.
"They're pretty comfortable with me waiting and my timeline," Karlaftis told Badger247. "They wouldn't want me to push stuff way back, but I think they're comfortable with me making a decision before the season."
Went south on OSU in a hurrySaw the 2 Depth charts. Not normally- but OSU has recruited a couple of studs there- more so then Bama.
Saw the 2 Depth charts. Not normally- but OSU has recruited a couple of studs there- more so then Bama.JC Latham is the #5 OT in the 247Composite and a 5*. Bama is heavy CRYSTAL BALLZ leader for the #1 OT and 5* Tommy Brockermeyer. That one looks like a lock to be quite honest.
Can Jimmy do virtual sleepovers?1-900 numbers?
Can Jimmy do virtual sleepovers?Lmao.
I think UM gets both Clarkston kids, but not Edwards.Michigan is in the drivers seat for Edwards right now. Harbaugh has personally taken over that recruitment. I feel more confident in landing him than either Clarkston kid if you ask me. Dellinger was a forgone conclusion to LSU just a couple weeks ago before Michigan got back in it. While I think Michigan probably has the edge, Notre Dame is a serious threat for Spindler- and Spindler isn't deciding any time soon.
Meanwhile 3/4* WR Andrel Anthony names a final 4 of MSU, UM, PSU, ND. MSU was completely out with him under Dantonio
JC Latham is the #5 OT in the 247Composite and a 5*. Bama is heavy CRYSTAL BALLZ leader for the #1 OT and 5* Tommy Brockermeyer. That one looks like a lock to be quite honest.when did bama stop?
So they are 'crootin studs there again as usual.
3* CB Ricardo Hallman picked UW today, over many other offers.South Florida is the most fertile recruiting ground there is in the entire country.
I'll take 6' CB's out of Fort Lauderdale all day long.
South Florida is the most fertile recruiting ground there is in the entire country.south florida is where the kids catch rabbits bare handed
south florida is where the kids catch rabbits bare handedThey wade into the Everglade with bare feet and strangle pythons with their bare hands....
south florida is where the kids catch rabbits bare handedThey have a PlayBoy Club there?
4* OT Garrett Dellinger (6'5, 280) of Clarkson, MI is announcing his commitment in just a few days. Dellinger is rated as the #79 prospect in the nation overall, the #12 OT, and the #5 player in the state of Michigan in the 247Composite. Heavy CRYSTAL BALLZ in favor of LSU, but the Michigan insiders are saying that he's been in frequent contact this entire week with Michigan and the kid filmed two versions of his commitment video (I hate these things) with one of them being for Michigan- the other being for LSU. Apparently Michigan hasn't been giving up, and with the COVID situation his family would rather him be closer to home.LSU
We'll see what happens, but a few weeks ago I would've said LSU all-day, now it appears Michigan has a real shot. Landing him would be huge because he's teammates/best-friends with 4* OG Rocco Spindler (6'4, 315) the #50 prospect in the nation overall, the #3 OG, and the #3 player in the state of Michigan. Spindler is thought to be down to Michigan and Notre Dame in a dead-even race. Dellinger/Spindler have said many times they'd love to play together but aren't a packaged deal. Michigan adding Dellinger to the fold would sweeten the pot with Spindler for sure.
Harbaugh needs to sack up and land both of these in-state kids that were at one-time heavy Michigan leans. If he can't land them with a pandemic wreaking havoc and convince them to stay close to home and family, he might as well go kick rocks for all I care.
LSUYup. Told you I wasn’t too confident in him or either Clarkston kid, and that I was way more confident in them getting Edwards than either Clarkston kid. Still feel that way.
Why are these guys so fast? Everybody says the same thing. You know what the tale is?That's a very specific part of South Florida and unfortunately a pretty awful one to come up in. The fact so much talent escapes from there with the issues they have is impressive.
-Bobby Bowden
The next morning, Sunday, another football player wakes up at dawn in the town of Belle Glade. He rushes past the Martin Luther King Jr. portrait on the wall of his family's trailer, past the bullet shells by the sink and the Rivals.com envelope on the table. He swings open the screen door, jumps down the two wooden steps and walks out to where his dog still sleeps. Tony Walker is 17, and unlike just about everyone else in Muck City, he doesn't carry a stick or a bat into the fields: He catches rabbits with his bare hands.
Tony, a cornerback at Glades Day, is tall and wiry, with a lopsided, easy smile. He learned to chase from his dad, Charles, a round man with a gold tooth who works at the Glades Correctional Institution down the street from their $6,000 trailer. Charles chased every day as a kid, to supplement the $15,000 his mom made testing the quality of the cane stalks. Father and son go out together every weekend, on the prowl for the one catch no Walker has ever made: a cottontail.
Most of the rabbits that get chased around here are muck rabbits—dark meat, a little fat and a little slow by local standards. Cottontails are quicker; legend has it they don't slow down until their hearts explode, and they usually find safety in a canal long before then. Tony has been in the fields around Muck City for 10 years, and he has never come close to getting one. Now it's March. The season is ending; most of the land has been burned.
https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3286059 (https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3286059)
That's a very specific part of South Florida and unfortunately a pretty awful one to come up in. The fact so much talent escapes from there with the issues they have is impressive.Yeah, for sure. Drove through it about a month ago, coming back home from West Palm.
Yeah, for sure. Drove through it about a month ago, coming back home from West Palm.Someone wrote a pretty good book about that HS/team. Called Muck City.
3 star corner Davonta Smith decommits from the BucksYikes. Well if he didn't even become 4* after committing how bad is he?
Yikes. Well if he didn't even become 4* after committing how bad is he?It's kind of weird. His recruiting rankings aren't great but now everyone is pegging him for Alabama
holy smokes. all the experts over at 247Sports have changed their CRYSTAL BALLZ from Oregon to Michigan for 4* WR Xavier Worthy (6'1, 165 lbs) from California. Worthy is announcing in 8 days and apparently has told Oregon they are out and the consensus appears to be he's heading to Michigan. WOW. This kid just might be the fastest HS player in the entire nation regardless of class.Man I miss Gattis....
Worthy is the #175 player overall in the 247Composite and the #32 WR and #16 player in the state of California. However, this is due to the worst, least reliable service of them all at this point- Rivals- ranking him as a generic low 3*. 247 just recently re-ranked him #95 player overall in the nation and as the #11 WR, and they have said he's not done rising. ESPN has him ranked as the #126th player overall and the #20 WR.
I stand by my opinion in this thread a few pages ago when I thought he was going to Oregon- he's gonna be a 5 STARZ or damn close to it by the time it's all said and done.
And I can't believe the speed that Michigan is bringing in the past few classes at WR. Giles Jackson was pretty fast addition in the 2019 class, and then they went out and got two guys probably faster in AJ Henning and Roman Wilson in 2020. Now they just went out and got maybe the fastest guy they've ever gotten at WR in Xavier Worthy. This is some serious speed- especially Worthy and Wilson.
Sounds like Buddin to PSU may happen soon.Really? Do tell.
Really? Do tell.He had said he was going to set a commit date this week, but then there was buzz he was just going to commit, then yesterday some new CBS for PSU came in, and a couple flipped from MSU to PSU
He had said he was going to set a commit date this week, but then there was buzz he was just going to commit, then yesterday some new CBS for PSU came in, and a couple flipped from MSU to PSUI had heard months ago he was all PSU, but not much news since then.
Sports Illustrated/Trent Dilfer (who runs the Elite 11 camp) rankings of the top QBs at the Elite 11 in order-Highly subjective I guess. I have seen numerous ratings and they are all different. Here is 247/sports:
1) Caleb Williams - Washington (DC) Gonzaga - Elite 11 MVP - uncommitted - 2.66 composite score
2) JJ McCarthy - IMG Academy (Florida) - committed to Michigan - 4.00 composite score
3) Miller Moss - Mater Dei (California) - committed to USC - 4.66 composite score
4) Brock Vandagriff - Bogart Prince Ave Christ. (GA) - committed to Georgia - 5.33 composite score
5t) Ty Thompson - Gilbert Mesquite (AZ) - committed to Oregon - 6.66 composite score
5t) Carlos Del Rio - Loganville Grayson (GA) - committed to Florida - 6.66 composite score
7) Kyle McCord - Philadelphia St. Joseph's (PA) - committed to Ohio State - 7.33 composite score
8) Kyron Drones - Pearland Shadow Creek (TX) - committed to Baylor - 10.66 composite score
9t) Garrett Nussmeier - Flower Mound Marcus (TX) - committed to LSU - 11.0 composite score
9t) Tyler Macon - East. St. Louis (Ill.) - committed to Missouri - 11.0 composite score
11t) Maddox Kopp - Houston St. Thomas (TX) - uncommitted - 11.33 composite score
11t) Luke Altmyer - Starkville (Miss.) - committed to Florida State - 11.33 composite score
13t) Drake Maye - Charlotte Myers Park (NC) - committed to UNC - 12.33 composite score
13t) Behren Morton - Eastland (TX) - committed to Texas Tech - 12.33 composite score
15) Grayson James - Plano John Paull II (TX) - uncommitted - 13.66 composite score
16) Kaidon Salter - Cedar Hill (TX) - committed to Tennessee - 14.00 composite score
17) Christian Veilleux - Potomac The Bullis School (MD) - committed to PSU - 14.33 composite score
18) Demetrius Davis - Houston North Shore (TX) - committed to Auburn - 15.66 composite score
19t) Tyler Buchner - La Jolla Helix (CA) - committed to Notre Dame - 17.33 composite score
19t) Jay Allen - Fort Pierce John Caroll (FL) - uncommitted -17.33 composite score
They all equally don't matter. So there's thatWell played
He had said he was going to set a commit date this week, but then there was buzz he was just going to commit, then yesterday some new CBS for PSU came in, and a couple flipped from MSU to PSUOr not, he did just announce that he'll commit in 2 weeks. Still all PSU
Highly subjective I guess. I have seen numerous ratings and they are all different. Here is 247/sports:Every service has its own rankings and biases. Obviously. And like ELA said, it don’t matter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Final-ranking-of-the-best-QBs-from-the-Elite-11-Finals-Ty-Thompson-Brock-Vandagriff-Kyron-Drones-Caleb-Williams-Kyle-McCord-JJ-McCarthy-Carlos-Del-Rio-Miller-Moss-Tyler-Macon-148733101/Amp/
Man I miss Gattis....Still don’t know if he can co-ordinate but he sure as hell can recruit fast WRs.
Still don’t know if he can co-ordinate but he sure as hell can recruit fast WRs.He will be a good coordinator, if not excellent. It might take 2-3 years, but he will improve every year
Giles Jackson, AJ Henning, Roman Wilson, and Xavier Worthy are all very fast humans. Worthy is probably 4.2-4.3, Wilson was 4.32 at Nike Opening, and Jackson and Henning are both slot ninjas in the 4.4’s.
I wonder if anyone has any figures on how often a "firm commit" backs out and goes elsewhere. Would you guess it's say 15%?I don’t think anyone knows this yet. We will have to wait til NSD to see if there are a record number for flips or top kids just not signing and waiting it out to sign.
I know with the high profile players there always seems to be TALK about whether he is reconsidering, and there are surprised on signing day of course.
I also wonder if the COVID situation will change this much. Obviously players can't operate normally, nor can coaches. I gather they do mostly virtual visits now?
Programs with advanced computer capabilities would be at an advantage, but probably they all are now.
Or not, he did just announce that he'll commit in 2 weeks. Still all PSUJuly 17th. Sam Webb put in a crystal BALLZ for Buddin to PSU with a confidence level 9. Basically means it's a lock.
July 17th. Sam Webb put in a crystal BALLZ for Buddin to PSU with a confidence level 9. Basically means it's a lock.He was never going to Michigan anyway. Although he had some initial interest, all of his friends are going to PSU.
Michigan pushed for a commitment from Buddin and he told them he wasn't ready yet. They then filled up with 4*'s ranked higher than Buddin in Junior Colson (TN) and Jaydon Hood (FL). They already had 3* LB Tyler McLaurin, whom the Michigan coaches seem to like a lot more than the recruiting services. Just a case of no more room at the inn.
Kind of dumb if you ask me though. They should've made room for him just to try to repair relationship with the Belleville HS staff and to try to get back in it with 5* DT Damon Payne.
He was never going to Michigan anyway. Although he had some initial interest, all of his friends are going to PSU.Not sure this is true. He was leaning heavily to Michigan at one point, and it’s not like he doesn’t know anyone at Michigan. He is from Michigan, and he has friends already on the Michigan team and friends that will be going to Michigan in 2021 and friends that will probably be going to Michigan in the 2022 class.
5* DT Damon Payne (6'4, 295) of Michigan sets his committment date. 2 weeks from tomorrow. He's the #1 DT and the #18 player overall in the nation in the 247Composite. Finalists are Alabama, USC, Kentucky, and Arizona State. Smart money is on Bama.I'm curious how UK made his list. Or ASU. Of course, it could mean early PT for a 5 star.
I'm curious how UK made his list. Or ASU. Of course, it could mean early PT for a 5 star.Kentucky has done pretty well recently in MI. At least comparatively. I'm surprised ASU isn't in everyone's top 5, just to take an official there.
Of that group, I would choose Bama, hope he doesn't.
I'm curious how UK made his list. Or ASU. Of course, it could mean early PT for a 5 star.Like ELA said, UK has made huge inroads in the state of Michigan. They even landed the #1 player in the state in the last class in Justin Rogers.
Of that group, I would choose Bama, hope he doesn't.
Michigan State has strong ties in Belleville HS, they would’ve had a legit shot if not for Dantonio leaving and the program sort of disintegrating and having to go through a rebuild.He never really seemed interested in MSU from the start. They weren't even in his top 10 when he released that. I don't think he really ever wanted to stick around. Not sure what happened with him and OSU. There was a lot of chatter that he was going to commit during his visit last year for the Wisconsin game.
Nebraska has added another commitment, bringing aboard a cornerback with a name that will ring familiar to many football fans.Nebraska’s newest commit has his first rating from 247Sports.
Lardarius Webb Jr., who is set to play his senior season in Jackson, Mississippi, announced his pledge to Nebraska on Tuesday night. He is the son of the former Baltimore Ravens defensive back who shares the same name.
The Huskers were the first and only FBS school to offer Webb so far, extending an opportunity to the 5-10, 170-pound prospect in late June. Webb gives the Huskers 12 known commits in the 2021 recruiting class, with his announcement coming just days after the July 4 commitment of wide receiver Latrell Neville.
Jordan Hancock, a 4 star corner out of Georgia, has decommitted from Clemson and it appears OSU is the frontrunner.And he commits to the Bucks. #77 overall
I'm a bit curious why someone would decommit from Clemson and then commit to Ohio State (or vice versa). Both obviously are top choices for any top level HS player.17/18 year olds gonna be 17/18 year olds.
Wasn't Hill committed to Michigan, flipped to Bama, then flipped back?Yeah, that's a completely different scenario, don't know what that dude is talking about. Dax was a long-time Michigan commit, Bama put the pressure on him and he flipped to Bama for about a week, then he followed his heart right back to Michigan, where it always was. Not really comparable scenario.
I'm a bit curious why someone would decommit from Clemson and then commit to Ohio State (or vice versa). Both obviously are top choices for any top level HS player.$$$$$
$$$$$Clemson has better bag men. Didn’t you see all the pics of former 5* RB Mike Bellamy with $50k in cash lol.
Clemson has better bag men. Didn’t you see all the pics of former 5* RB Mike Bellamy with $50k in cash lol.If Clemson has good bag men, and someone left their class for another program that always recruits well ...
If Clemson has good bag men, and someone left their class for another program that always recruits well ...Ohio State is a blue blood program. One of the top 3-5 programs in CFB history, and have been on an historic run since Urban came in 2012. Them signing top kids year in year out makes complete sense.
Ohio State is a blue blood program. One of the top 3-5 programs in CFB history, and have been on an historic run since Urban came in 2012. Them signing top kids year in year out makes complete sense.Sure they are. And blue bloods have bag men. Lots of them. Probably more than non-Blue Bloods.
Clemson was a nothing program just 5-6 years ago. Never won shit, in an armpit division in a shitty ACC conference, yet somehow all of a sudden just started signing 5*'s from all over the country. Makes total sense. Not.
Maybe if there is a virtual tie, some under the table money to my "uncle" would sway me. And of course when does the money change hands? A commit is a near nothing, and once you sign and are locked in, what is the payer revokes, you can't really sue him.no, but the Uncle might get a knee cap broken
Were I a 5 star player, I'd be looking almost entirely at which program can get me playing on Sundays as a first rounder as a motivation.Ohio State is killing it here as well. Just look at 2020 NFL Draft. First 3 picks were all Urban Meyer recruits.
Sure they are. And blue bloods have bag men. Lots of them. Probably more than non-Blue Bloods.Not true. At all. Blue bloods don't need the bag men to attract top players. Blue bloods attract top players by default. And when they have all-time great coaches like a Meyer or Saban? Forget about it.
If Clemson has good bag men, and someone left their class for another program that always recruits well ...And here you’re always downplaying everyone else is conspiracy theories LOL. But yours here is a doozy.
And here you’re always downplaying everyone else is conspiracy theories LOL. But yours here is a doozy.Dude is a clown. He's moving into OAM territory.
Ohio State has a bag man all right it’s called the NFL. Players that want to get to the NFL pick Ohio State. Get over it
The top recruiting programs have been the same for several years now, and well known to all of us. They also are the teams winning 10+ games a year and playing for the NC and having a lot of players drafted.Clemson players practicing against themselves is probably harder than any game they play, until January.
I think a player could go to Clemson and get drafted just as well as if he went to Ohio State, generally speaking. If he's that good, he likely could go to say UNC, play early and often, and get drafted well, unless he is a skill position type and needs to up his game with competition and great coaching.
I wouldn't go to UNC, I'd want to go to the national stage and be assured of top level competition at practice as well as in games. A DB at UNC would practice against maybe a 3 star WR all week.
Clemson has won 10+ games for the past 9 years straight, with a lowest poll finish of 15 (10-3).And Dabo loves Jesus,so he has that going for him
Clemson players practicing against themselves is probably harder than any game they play, until January.They do play at Notre Dame this year.
They do play at Notre Dame this year.Oh boy who is Jesus going to pick?
Clemson players practicing against themselves is probably harder than any game they play, until January.I've heard the practices in Iowa City are like a blood bath
They do play at Notre Dame this year.Meh. I was really looking forward to watching UW kick their ass this year. Clemson will destroy ND.
And Dabo loves Jesus,so he has that going for him:043:
And here you’re always downplaying everyone else is conspiracy theories LOL. But yours here is a doozy.I think a lot of top recruits are getting something from bag men.
Ohio State has a bag man all right it’s called the NFL. Players that want to get to the NFL pick Ohio State. Get over it
Not true. At all. Blue bloods don't need the bag men to attract top players. Blue bloods attract top players by default. And when they have all-time great coaches like a Meyer or Saban? Forget about it.So Alabama doesn’t bag man? Interesting.
A little redneck shithole program like Clemson- which is what they were before 10 years ago- well of course they have to cheat to attract top players. There was literally zero reason for any top players to go there before 10 years ago. Now? They have tens of thousands of reasons.
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Dude is a clown. He's moving into OAM territory.It’s part of my mossad cover.
I think a lot of top recruits are getting something from bag men.I think you are way off and dead wrong.
Thus, I assume if you get a lot of top recruits, you’re probably involved with bag men. Basically, if you’re recruiting like a top tier SEC school that offers basically the same NFL chance, and they’re paying, I’d be surprised if a school often beats out those teams without an inducement of some sort.
I think there are probably some UW bag men too. Not as many and not as intense.
But yeah, if you beat Clemson heads up for a blue chip guy, I’m going to assume they made an offer and something happened to overcome that.
I think you are way off and dead wrong.That's certianly fair and I respect it.
That's certianly fair and I respect it.Have you seen how many DBs OSU has had drafted in the first two rounds the last 5-6 years?
We're just talking about what we think about what we don't know. I should've been more charitable that it is very possible the kid just wanted to play ball for a different school or coach. My cynicism is showing through.
Have you seen how many DBs OSU has had drafted in the first two rounds the last 5-6 years?Eight.
https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-ohio-state-dbu-in-pff-era
Eight.Just certain positions. For years they couldn’t get a QB drafted until Day came along and changed the offense with Haskins. Same with WR, with a few exceptions, until recently. They have had their fair share of lineman, RBs, and above average at LB. but DBs? That’s one of the places you go to get NFL level development if your DB.
Clemson had four. Bama had 4-5.
It's quite impressive. Ohio State has been very good at acquiring top talent and developing it to the point it gets taken high.
Pete Carroll?Oh yes. There have been plenty.
he may have looked away
how about Gene Chizik?
Oh yes. There have been plenty.I'm more skeptical of that, TBH.
But do you think Frost would allow it? No way IMHO. As a coach with a bright future- Even if you didn’t know the difference between wrong and right, the risk is far too great for the price you would pay, especially given the chances of getting caught are very high
I'm more skeptical of that, TBH.Well you may be more right than wrong on that part. I can’t honestly say I know. I do think certain coaches are on the lookout for that and work hard to steer their programs clear. But, there are likely others who conveniently look the other way. I just don’t think Ryan day or Dabo Swinney or Nick Saban, just to name a few are going to allow stuff like that to happen in their program when they don’t need that help. And there are other coaches like Paul Chris at Wisconsin who may not be at that level nationally but just would not allow that kind of crap anywhere near their players if they could help it
I should also say, the coaches are usually uninvolved. Maybe it happens, but they know next to nothing.
but the devil works in creative waysDo you still fill out your card on the course?
Yeah, that's a completely different scenario, don't know what that dude is talking about. Dax was a long-time Michigan commit, Bama put the pressure on him and he flipped to Bama for about a week, then he followed his heart right back to Michigan, where it always was. Not really comparable scenario.OU played no defense during Mike Stoops' 2nd time around as DC. OU had played good defense before that, and played a lot better, with Mikey's so-so recruits--last year under Alex Grinch.
4* ATH of California Prophet Brown commits to USC. Brown was thought to be down to Oklahoma and Michigan, only to commit to hometown team USC. Can't say I blame him with all this corona going on, probably didn't want to go all the way across the country to Michigan, and Oklahoma was recruiting him at CB, and well you'd have to be a little dumb to sign up to play defense at Oklahoma- cause they play none of that there.
Damon Payne to Bama. Best case scenario once Dantonio couldn't even get MSU into his Top 12, even as well as MSU has done in Belleville recentlyBig screw up by Harbaugh in back to back classes with in-state DTs.
I missed this, didn't realize they were in his Top 5. I guess Tucker did some work to at least get Payne's respect, after Dantonio got MSU excluded from his earlier top 10. I do think Tucker is quite a recruiter, but this is MSU, not Georgia, and I worry that while his personality gets him in the door, and into the top 3-5 of some really big names, he's not going to wind up landing those guys over Bama, Clemson, OSU, etc..., and have the ship already sailed on his Plan B guys.I hate what recruiting has become. Not that it has ever been a celebration of self-restraint.
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1287411016008118279?s=20
a 3 star WR at Michigan???I think it’s just a big deal for the reason the kid is from East Lansing and the insiders all said Michigan had like no shot and he was going to MSU and then like out of the blue it flipped and sounds like he’s all Michigan. 17 year olds be crazy.
I think it’s just a big deal for the reason the kid is from East Lansing and the insiders all said Michigan had like no shot and he was going to MSU and then like out of the blue it flipped and sounds like he’s all Michigan. 17 year olds be crazy.Like I said in my post. He had basically ruled out MSU until Dantonio left. Although the thought was he was headed out of state, not to UM. Then the momentum flipped to MSU in the past couple months, but sounds like his best friend/AAU teammate, Kobe Bufkin, picking UM a couple weeks ago flipped his mind again.
Calling my shot now, Mel Tucker is the juwan Howard of college football. He's got a solid enough personality to get a ton of five-star recruits to put MSU in their top five. But in the end, he's not going to land any of them, and we're going to miss out on all of the three-star guys we should getI respect the dig on Michigan in critiquing your program
Calling my shot now, Mel Tucker is the juwan Howard of college football. He's got a solid enough personality to get a ton of five-star recruits to put MSU in their top five. But in the end, he's not going to land any of them, and we're going to miss out on all of the three-star guys we should getThe WR coach under our previous coach was like this... it was exciting to see them in the mix on the top talent, but when they all signed at other places, his plan B guys were gone. Riley had a pro style offense and little talent at WR.
Harbaugh looks really bad much of the timeTrue. But he looks especially bad in this case. A 5*, #1 DT in the nation and top 15 player overall (according to the 247Composite) is in your backyard and you just stop recruiting because of a beef with his HS head coach? There isn't a bigger position of need on this entire roster than DT. And the #1 HS DT recruit in the entire nation is in your backyard and his father is a diehard Michigan fan and wanted him to go to Michigan- and you just top recruiting him? Makes no sense.
can't allow HS coaches to bully your programHe wasn't. His dad said the coaches never discouraged anything. He said he remains a Michigan fan, and will still be wearing maize and blue every Saturday this fall. It's really, really, curious.
He wasn't. His dad said the coaches never discouraged anything. He said he remains a Michigan fan, and will still be wearing maize and blue every Saturday this fall. It's really, really, curious.Harbaugh just being Harbaugh. I think he's not going to recruit Belleville anymore. That's what Sam Webb kind of intimated. Harbaugh is a weirdo and I'm sick of his ass. Can't beat Ohio State, can't lockdown his own state.
Can't beat Ohio State, can't lockdown his own state.See he's not all bad
In other Harbaugh related recruiting news. 5* OT Isaiah Wilson, who chose Georgia over UM and Alabama, and is now in the NFL, on why...Well the hell was this aspergers f***k even wearing cleats? He hasn't played a football game in like 30 years. And to not take them off in someones house? Seriously?
Heading into his decision in December, the 6-foot-6.5, 350-pound offensive lineman says he came close to picking Michigan as well. That is, until a fateful in-home visit from head coach Jim Harbaugh.
“But Harbaugh did something really weird,” Isaiah replied. “He did something stupid weird. Remember when they [Michigan] first got the deal with Jordan?. He [Harbaugh] just wouldn’t take off his cleats. He came to my in-home visit with cleats on his feet. And I have hardwood floors. And he’s just walking around with cleats bro.
"We looked. My mom was coming in hot, asking 'why could he not have taken off his shoes?' After that, it was over. Super weird."
Well the hell was this aspergers f***k even wearing cleats? He hasn't played a football game in like 30 years. And to not take them off in someones house? Seriously?Ya that's definately a red flag - he can't get out of his own way.When he got to AA I thought he was doing bizarre things to get the program some clicks.Board of Regents now really have some tough decisions regarding him.Looks like he'll be getting a stay of execution with this season swirling the drain.But opposing programs don't even have to negative recruit if this is the case.Might want to hear what Mike Vakenti has to say
He's either got CTE or aspergers or a combo of both. I'm sick and tired of his ass.
On Sunday the Huskers lost a commitment from outside linebacker Will Schweitzer."And now, eff you! I'm going to Notre Dame!"
Schweitzer announced the decision on Twitter in a note thanking Nebraska for recruiting him. He later on Sunday committed to Notre Dame.
"I'd like to say this has nothing to do with the university, the coaching staff or Huskernation," he said. "I am honored coach Frost, coach Chinander and coach Dawson chose me to play for them. They have been the best mentors anyone could ask for in the recruiting process. Thank you coaches from the bottom of my heart."
5* on 247 Composite. UW beat out his final 5, which included Clemson, ND, PSU and Michigan.Yeah, MSU recruited his brother (Hayden) pretty hard, I think he took his final OV to EL.
His dad played at PSU. His brother plays TE at UW now.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/ (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/)
5* on 247 Composite. UW beat out his final 5, which included Clemson, ND, PSU and Michigan.Yeah, he's a 5*, not a 4*. And a lot of people think he's actually the best OT in the nation. And he's from PA and Dad played at PSU.
His dad played at PSU. His brother plays TE at UW now.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/ (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/)
5* on 247 Composite. UW beat out his final 5, which included Clemson, ND, PSU and Michigan.FINALY, UW will have a talented offensive lineman to work with.
His dad played at PSU. His brother plays TE at UW now.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/ (https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nolan-Rucci-122909/RecruitInterests/)
3* S JahVon Grigsby from Louisiana, who had to push his OV back three times due to COVID, seems like he's just going to commit to Vandy, after being an MSU lock.It's good for Tucker that MSU will likely be in a spot for him to get a long leash.
On one hand a pandemic, with a new coach is a disaster, but at least Tucker is doing the best he can, whereas I'm not sure Dantonio would even know what to do during this. Probably a wash, but the next few years could be rough
FINALY, UW will have a talented offensive lineman to work with.This guy is the 2nd highest OL recruit for UW. Josh Ogelsby was ranked higher, but injuries really held him back.
(It will be ironic when he's just like, decent, and some walk-on from a school with 125 kids who pulls tractors in his free time will blossom into a first rounder)
This guy is the 2nd highest OL recruit for UW. Josh Ogelsby was ranked higher, but injuries really held him back.Logan Brown was rated higher than both I think.
The OL room is quite crowded now, with a bunch of 4-5* players.
3* S JahVon Grigsby from Louisiana, who had to push his OV back three times due to COVID, seems like he's just going to commit to Vandy, after being an MSU lock.And then commits to MSU today over Vandy, Auburn and Florida State. So, who knows
On one hand a pandemic, with a new coach is a disaster, but at least Tucker is doing the best he can, whereas I'm not sure Dantonio would even know what to do during this. Probably a wash, but the next few years could be rough
Logan Brown was rated higher than both I think.Just reporting what I read on 247. Brown is a 5* for sure. So is Jack Nelson. Rucci is a 4* on Rivals. I'm not bothering with re-subscribing to them this year. The UW writer is good, but the evaluators only go off what they see at their own camps.
Logan Brown was rated higher than both I think.Brown is second, behind Josh.
This guy is the 2nd highest OL recruit for UW. Josh Ogelsby was ranked higher, but injuries really held him back.To a degree, but I also got the impression he never had that dog in him. Now he coulda maybe been a really high end pass blocker. I also didn't realize quite how bad those knees were.
The OL room is quite crowded now, with a bunch of 4-5* players.
Sadly, the guy he's going to play for at the next level has proven he can't develop QB's.That has been true so far IMHO. But let’s see how he does with Joe Milton, who I think will be the first QB he’s had at Michigan that came right out of high school straight the Wolverines. I think Milton will pleasantly surprise.
That's my take, anyway.
Feel bad for Coan, but confident in the new kid. I know Chryst and Buds can develop QB's.Chryst's history is actually a bit spottier than one might think. Lotta guys that were just complete nothings.
Chryst's history is actually a bit spottier than one might think. Lotta guys that were just complete nothings.built on a helluva running game and a helluva defense
That said, they can build an efficent passing game just about every year, so I'll take it.
Sadly, the guy he's going to play for at the next level has proven he can't develop QB's.I’m hoping JJ is another Luck. As in, he’s so good, Harbaugh can’t screw him up.
That's my take, anyway.
I’m hoping JJ is another Luck. As in, he’s so good, Harbaugh can’t screw him up.Gattis will have him humming. That is my prediction.
I will say though, I think the QBs at Michigan have been slim pickens. Speight and O’Korn were ass. Patterson clearly wasn’t the 5* he was touted to be. He didn’t even get drafted. I think Patterson was a decent college QB, but that’s it. Expectations were so high because of his high school ranking. And he might’ve just been a case of a kid that peaked in high school and was over-ranked. It happens. Not every 5* QB breaks through. Shea never had the insane athletic gifts of a Justin Fields or the size, stature and cannon arm of a Trevor Lawerence. Harbaugh did Shea no favors- but Shea often played scared and just did a lot of stupid things. Rudock in year one still probably the best QB play Harbaugh has had yet.
I was hoping McCaffrey would win the job this year. But he transferred. I really thought he might’ve been the one to break the spell.
Milton is a physical specimen, but not sure Harbaugh is the guy to coach him. Ryan Day or Lincoln Riley on the other hand? They’d have legit shot at turn Milton into a high 1st round pick. His size/speed-to-power/physical strength/arm talent combo is off the charts. Raw as they come, but really just a physical specimen.
Gattis will have him humming. That is my prediction.I’ll believe it when I see it. I hope you’re right, but I’ve been burned too many times by Michigan football.
MSU picks up 3/4* S AJ Kirk Jr. out of Ohio. Mike Doss' little brother, with offers from OSU, UM, ND, PSU and Florida. Big addOSU is in the final 4 for Derrick Davis Jr. from outside Pittsburgh, the #2 S in the nation in the composite rankings. He's committing in November, although PSU is the favorite. They already took another safety, so you wonder if they had to slow play Kirk for now, and will turn up the heat if they don't get Davis.
StoccoSo, I was thinking about some of the selection stuff in there. In terms of inherited QBs, he got Stocco on stable ground and got an underrated year out of Donovan.
Tolzien
Wilson
Stave (!!)
Houston (!!)
Horni
Coan
All developed under Chryst. Not too bad, save for Horni's regression in his last season. That was more his own doing though.
The !! guys were submarined by the prior coach too. That same guy who made Houston into a punter and tried to make a WR into a QB. I'd have liked to have seen what they could have done under PC for 4-5 years. Houston could have been something special, I think.
OSU is in the final 4 for Derrick Davis Jr. from outside Pittsburgh, the #2 S in the nation in the composite rankings. He's committing in November, although PSU is the favorite. They already took another safety, so you wonder if they had to slow play Kirk for now, and will turn up the heat if they don't get Davis.Screw that we'll take Kirk rather than a possible maybe on Davis - Bastages
I’m hoping JJ is another Luck. As in, he’s so good, Harbaugh can’t screw him up.Out of Spreight,O'Korn,Patterson,Shea and maybe even McCaffrey.O'Korn looked to me with the highest ceiling.He'd have highlight reel moments then follow it up with a ruh-roh.The talent was there - one time he took off running I forget against who and he looked like Steve Young with the 9ers,gained like 50yds.And he could throw as evidenced by his time at Houston
Out of Spreight,O'Korn,Patterson,Shea and maybe even McCaffrey.O'Korn looked to me with the highest ceiling.He'd have highlight reel moments then follow it up with a ruh-roh.The talent was there - one time he took off running I forget against who and he looked like Steve Young with the 9ers,gained like 50yds.And he could throw as evidenced by his time at HoustonO‘Korn started falling off the rails at Houston. He lost his job to a guy that’s now playing WR in the NFL. O’Korn was talented physically but he was just bad at QB. Didn’t have the mind for it.
Michigan lands a couple of big 2021 commits.I wanted to post this yesterday, and it was funnier before FSU upset UNC, but when asked why he was decomitting from FSU he basically said "I hate losing"
4* LB Branden Jennings (6’3, 225 lbs.) decommits from Florida State and has committed to Michigan. Jennings is from Jacksonville, FL and is rated as the #82 overall player in the nation, the #6 OLB, and the #13 player in the state of Florida.
UW got a big target yesterday.A small addendum, those crystal balls were from the spring, just before he committed to Michigan. So technically they were all correct. But no one goes and cleans them out.
https://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Allen-46096504/
Markus Allen committed over offers from many schools, including many in the B1G. Michigan had all the BALLZ predicted to land him.
The WR reports being 6-2, 190#, 4.5 40.
I'm good with this one.
UW got a big target yesterday.Fat Barry creepin' around Ohio again,I thought we had an agreement
A small addendum, those crystal balls were from the spring, just before he committed to Michigan. So technically they were all correct. But no one goes and cleans them out.Let the guy rub it in for crying out loud
Gotcha. I had not realized he was "committed" to Michigan. Why did he choose to not go?He felt the team he was set to join lacked the merit to have him?
Meritocracy at play?
Michigan "only" has 36 offers out to WR, and two commits.
MSU adds in state 4* DT Rayshaun Benny, who was presumed until a couple weeks ago to be a huge UM lean, hence CBSSN covering his announcement today.Solid pick up for MSU and just the first of many dominoes to fall in the collapse of M recruiting. There are lot more to come.
UW is hitting the Michigan trail hard for 2022 as well. They've made a lot of inroads there in the past few years.2022 was looking to be a big recruiting year for M. It’s all coming apart at the seams right now. Meanwhile 2022 is shaping up to be an insane recruiting year for Ohio State. Even better than their insane 2021 class.
For what ever reason JF has swung and missed big time for this seasons recruiting if it holds.Can't do that again as in state recruiting is their lifelineIt hasn't just been 2021 class where Franklin has failed in his backyard. Look at the 2020 class. He got 4 kids in PA's top 25- and none in the top 3. The top 3 kids in the state went to OSU (5* WR Fleming), ND (4* OT), and Pitt (4* DE).
Screw that we'll take Kirk rather than a possible maybe on Davis - BastagesWell, Davis committed to LSU, so we'll see if OSU ramps up on Kirk
Michigan making a run on 4* CB Kalen King (5'11, 170) of Detroit Cass Tech. King is a Penn State commit and rated as the #295 recruit in the nation, #23 CB, and #9 player in MI in the 247Composite 2021 rankings.All reports are that he;s wide open to offers
Cass Tech used to be a Michigan feeder school, and boy does Michigan need CB help in the worst way. Who knows if he'll flip, but the Michigan coaches are going all out to make that happen right now.
What about King's brother Kobe? He's a LB. Is he in play too? They "committed" on the same day back in April.Haven't heard anything about him. Not sure Michigan is going to recruit any more LB's.
Haven't heard anything about him. Not sure Michigan is going to recruit any more LB's.
What about King's brother Kobe? He's a LB. Is he in play too? They "committed" on the same day back in April.Wisconsin's track record with Kobe Kings is not outstanding
Wisconsin's track record with Kobe Kings is not outstandingFunny.
Well, Davis committed to LSU, so we'll see if OSU ramps up on KirkI had read OSU stopped recruiting him. Had you heard that?
I was just thinking - does anyone know how the scholarship cap would work next year? My understanding is everyone is getting essentially a free year this year - how are they counting against the scholarship cap next year?don't know, haven't heard anything
5 star receiver Emeka Embuka commits to the Bucks out of Washington. Buckeyes on an absolute filthy streak when it comes to receivers.Holy hell- watch the film on him.
Holy hell- watch the film on him.Look me up when the LOI's are mailed in
no way they keep all these guys
Njigba-Smith, Julian Fleming, Gee Scott, Mookie Cooper, Marvin Harrison Jr, Caleb Burton, and now Egbuka. I think I am leaving at least one out.
kind of like their QBs- they won’t be able to keep them all
Edit: I forgot Jayden Ballard. 6 WRs in the top 100 prospects, spread over three classes (20,21 and 22)
Look me up when the LOI's are mailed inWell since more than half of the names there are already on the team, and several more have already signed, I will “ look you up” next week on early signing day for the rest.
Early signing day tomorrow.Smart public policy too. Don’t get spanked by OSU, don’t get spanked by Iowa, bring in a nice recruiting class, and extend Harbaugh. Everyone is happy.
Shockingly sounding like Michigan will hold onto Xavier Worthy and land Donovan Edwards.
Have to say, I really like the skill talent they are acquiring in 2020/2021 combined if they actually pull it off. Roman Wilson, AJ Henning, and Xavier Worthy are flat out burners. That is serious speed at WR. Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards are explosive backs that can really catch the football. JJ McCarthy looks like a legit 5* QB to me. Just looks like a great feel for the position and has a strong arm but more importantly he shows great touch and accuracy.
Unfortunately the people coaching them on offense absolutely suck at coaching.
bring in a nice recruiting class, and THEN FIRE Harbaugh. Everyone is happy.I have been telling you for forever- he isn’t going anywhere.
Smart public policy too. Don’t get spanked by OSU, don’t get spanked by Iowa, bring in a nice recruiting class, and extend Harbaugh. Everyone is happy.ISWYDT,it would be shocking if M extended JH's deal.Think Coopers 13yrs shocking but I'm all for it
I have been telling you for forever- he isn’t going anywhere.He isn’t going anywhere. But if he doesn’t make huge changes to the staff this off-season and he doesn’t bounce back in 2021 he’s going to be on the serious hot seat.
avoiding Iowa and OSU and getting a good recruiting class helps calm the fans who want him GONE.
He isn’t going anywhere. But if he doesn’t make huge changes to the staff this off-season and he doesn’t bounce back in 2021 he’s going to be on the serious hot seat.I love your posts, and they are pretty accurate. But if he wasn’t on the hot seat after this shut show of a season- he never will be.
I love your posts, and they are pretty accurate. But if he wasn’t on the hot seat after this shut show of a season- he never will be.Jim/Warde/Mich has the COVID excuse and revenues in the AD have cratered.
Sounds like MSU is set to flip 4* LB Ma'a Gaoteote from USC, and his older brother, who was a 5* commit two years ago is going to transfer and join himSigned.
Super small class, so the class rating is going to be terrible. When ranking classes, sometimes quantity > quality.
Side note, what's going on with Brohm's class?
3* OL Logan Murray flipped from Syracuse to take a PWO from MSU. I have to imagine a scholarship is coming.What about that stud Qb transferring in from Temple? Sounds promising.
Michigan lands Donovan Edwards. Wow.He is ranked identical to where Charbonet was no?
What about that stud Qb transferring in from Temple? Sounds promising.I don't know about stud. I liked how Thorne looked Saturday. My guess is Lombardi and Day both transfer out.
Charbonet is an NFL talent all day long. If he stays at Michigan he'll wind up like DPJ and a 6th round pick- when his talent says he should be much higher than that. Notice how good DPJ looks as a rookie in the NFL playing with a legit QB with legit coaching? He looks pretty dang good.Good Cleveland will take him in the 5th/6th rd too.DPJ is working out fine
Harbaugh proving year after year his staff does NOT develop QB's, RB's, or WR's. Any skill position player would be crazy to sign with Michigan. Michigan only lost 2 commits, which is shocking to me- I thought they'd lose a lot more- and will close 2021 with a top 10 class nationally.Bagmen
BagmenMichigan state legislature just passed a law that players at all colleges in Michigan will now be able to have agents, sell their name and likeness, do endorsement deals.
Michigan state legislature just passed a law that players at all colleges in Michigan will now be able to have agents, sell their name and likeness, do endorsement deals.Start?
Time to buy us some top players, baby! Can't beat Ohio State, let's start paying players!
sounds like Michigan is back in the game with 4* DT Rayshaun Benny.He had said all along that he wasn't signing in December, so I can't tell if there is actually anything there, or some people just now realizing that he didn't sign, and trying to read something into it.
He had said all along that he wasn't signing in December, so I can't tell if there is actually anything there, or some people just now realizing that he didn't sign, and trying to read something into it.Some insidery chatter on the Michigan boards that they are right back in the thick of it for him.
#1 recruit in state of Michigan vs #2 recruit in state of Michigan today in the MHSAA playoffs.I know the Buckeyes are hot for Tatum.
5* BAMA commit DT Damon Payne's Belleville squad taking on 4* Michigan commit RB Donovan Edwards West Bloomfield squad. West Bloomfield is up 7-0 at the half.
So far through the first half, Damon Payne is virtually a non-factor despite being single blocked. Donovan Edwards had 9 carries for 91 yards rushing and a TD, including a 56 yard TD run. Edwards also had an 84 yard TD run that was called back due to a ticky tack holding call. Throw that one in there he's got 175 rushing yards on 10 carries and 2 TD's. Edwards also threw what should've been a TD pass- but his WR dropped it. Edwards also fumbled the ball- showing an area of his game where he needs to improve- he does not protect the football properly when he's dancing around and slashing and dicing and bouncing it outside.
Thoughts: Damon Payne doesn't look like a 5* DT on the field. In shorts and t-shirts he does, but it hasn't translated yet in the actual game of football. Belleville has a lot of talent- but poor coaching. Donovan Edwards looks like the 5*- not Payne. Edwards is ridiculously explosive. Belleville has a lot of FBS recruits on it's defense and Edwards has had a couple flash plays where he just explodes and out-runs all the angles against a very good HS defense that is loaded with FBS players.
Game is on Fox Sports Detroit/FS1- 2nd half is just starting up.
Also: 2022 recruit Dillon Tatum for West Bloomfield is super underrated. He looks awesome on defense and could totally see his rankings soar.
I know the Buckeyes are hot for Tatum.Buckeyes were hot for Edwards too and he almost committed there. Thank god he wasn’t quite ready to commit and OSU filled up there and wouldn’t wait til around NSD for him. No way Michigan would’ve gotten him- he was all Buckeyes very early on. Henderson & Edwards would’ve been a filthy RB class for the Buckeyes and I have no idea who Michigan could’ve possibly gotten in on that was remotely close to Edwards.
#1 recruit in state of Michigan vs #2 recruit in state of Michigan today in the MHSAA playoffs.High School Football All-Stars?In January? COOL,literally/figuratively
not that it matters at all really- but 247 just released their final updated rankings- not the Composite- their own internal rankings- and Michigan signee Donovan Edwards has been bumped to 5 STARZ and the #2 RB in the nation by them based largely on his commitment to a helmet schoolFIFY
FIFYDon't think that is the case. IF it was- why would they slide JJ McCarthy down in their own rankings?
Looks like the Bellamy hire flipped Benny from MSU to UMThey also signed 4* NJ DT George Rooks and flipped a 3* TX DT tackle from Colorado- all in the last week.
Looks like the Bellamy hire flipped Benny from MSU to UMApparently it’s also given Michigan a huge push in the 2022 5* CB Will Johnson sweepstakes. Michigan was running 3rd there behind Ohio State and USC- looks like they might’ve shot way back up to pole position.
Apparently it’s also given Michigan a huge push in the 2022 5* CB Will Johnson sweepstakes. Michigan was running 3rd there behind Ohio State and USC- looks like they might’ve shot way back up to pole position.OSU has no chance. His dad HATES OSU
OSU has no chance. His dad HATES OSUThey were the leader in the clubhouse. I believe the kids dad is tight with Bellamy.
2021 Football Team Rankings (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/)Bama with 26 commits, Notre Dame with 27
The current top teams look familiar. Bama OSU UGA LSU Clemson
The all have played in an NC game, and four have won at least one. We might add #6 Oregon, Oklahoma is #11.
A&M at 7 has never made a playoff. Yet.
Apparently it’s also given Michigan a huge push in the 2022 5* CB Will Johnson sweepstakes. Michigan was running 3rd there behind Ohio State and USC- looks like they might’ve shot way back up to pole position.And 2022 4* WR Tay'Shawn Trent. Some scuttlebutt he was planning on committing to MSU as soon as today, and now UM is gaining steam, thanks to Bellamy
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Ranking the Big Ten's College Football Rosters in 2021if it's the #2 roster- why were they so pathetic in 2020?
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-ranking-rosters-2021 (https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-ranking-rosters-2021)
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Illinois
Ranking the Big Ten's College Football Rosters in 2021Minnesota once again forgotten?
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-ranking-rosters-2021 (https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-ranking-rosters-2021)
Ohio St.
Michigan
Penn St.
Nebraska
Maryland
Wisconsin
Iowa
Michigan St.
Purdue
Northwestern
Indiana
Rutgers
Illinois
The is a good correlation between stars and NFL success.Borrowed from Bud Elliott:
There are lot more 3 stars than 4s and 5s of course.
Minnesota once again forgotten?oops, shoe horn the canoe in between Sparty and the Boilers at #9
| [th]TEAM[/th] [th]CONFERENCE[/th] [th]5-YEAR AVG.[/th] [th]2017[/th] [th]2018[/th] [th]2019[/th] [th]2020[/th] [th]2021[/th] | |||||||
| Georgia | SEC | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 |
| Alabama | SEC | 2.4 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
| Ohio State | Big Ten | 5 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 5 | 2 |
| LSU | SEC | 7 | 7 | 15 | 5 | 4 | 4 |
| Clemson | ACC | 8 | 16 | 6 | 10 | 3 | 5 |
| Oklahoma | Big 12 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 6 | 11 | 11 |
| Texas A&M | SEC | 9.2 | 12 | 17 | 4 | 6 | 7 |
| Florida | SEC | 10.8 | 10 | 14 | 9 | 8 | 13 |
| Texas | Big 12 | 11.6 | 26 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 17 |
| Michigan | Big Ten | 11.6 | 5 | 21 | 8 | 14 | 10 |
| Oregon | Pac-12 | 12 | 19 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 |
| Notre Dame | Independent | 12.4 | 11 | 10 | 15 | 17 | 9 |
| Auburn (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/AUBURN/auburn-tigers/) | SEC | 13.2 | 9 | 12 | 11 | 7 | 27 |
| Penn State (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/PSU/penn-state-nittany-lions/) | Big Ten | 13.8 | 15 | 5 | 13 | 15 | 21 |
| Miami | ACC | 14.8 | 13 | 8 | 28 | 13 | 12 |
| Tennessee (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/TENN/tennessee-volunteers/) | SEC | 15 | 17 | 20 | 12 | 10 | 16 |
| Florida State (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/FSU/florida-state-seminoles/) | ACC | 15.6 | 6 | 11 | 17 | 22 | 22 |
| USC (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/USC/usc-trojans/) | Pac-12 | 18.2 | 4 | 4 | 20 | 55 | 8 |
| Washington | Pac-12 | 20.4 | 22 | 13 | 16 | 16 | 35 |
| Nebraska (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/NEB/nebraska-cornhuskers/) | Big Ten | 20.8 | 23 | 22 | 19 | 20 | 20 |
| North Carolina (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UNC/north-carolina-tar-heels/) | ACC | 23 | 27 | 23 | 32 | 19 | 14 |
| Mississippi State | SEC | 25.4 | 24 | 27 | 24 | 27 | 25 |