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847badgerfan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7910 on: September 01, 2020, 08:03:47 AM »
I agree with most of that.
I wouldn't say "junk."  Just overpriced for what you get.
No doubt.

GM vs. Germany is not a good contest for GM.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7911 on: September 01, 2020, 08:29:15 AM »
the only thing Id like to see is all municipal and teachers unions be abolished

LMFAO

Case in point

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7912 on: September 01, 2020, 08:42:47 AM »
When my son was to start HS, the teachers went on strike about a week before school was to start.  They marched around outside carrying signs.  I was quite concerned about it.  I knew one teacher and asked her if they would start school on time and she told me:

"Don't worry, this is a game we play every time there is a contract coming up.  We "go on strike" to pretend and the school board knows this is the case.  They'll have it resolved before school starts."

And they did.

That school district had the highest paid teachers in the state and were spending over $15 K a year per K-12 student.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7913 on: September 01, 2020, 09:19:37 AM »
Does anyone think "quality" when they see "Proudly Made by Workers of the (Name the Union)" on a product?
I don't.  Every time I notice the little UAW sticker on my Mustang I think that Ford somehow managed to build a pretty good car despite its labor force.
I don't know if that's inherent to unions or just to American unions.  Unionized German workers seem to turn out pretty good cars, so maybe it's the latter.
Everyone loves German cars. 

But you don't want to be holding that hot potato when the warranty expires :03:

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7914 on: September 01, 2020, 09:23:20 AM »
Everyone loves German cars.

But you don't want to be holding that hot potato when the warranty expires :03:
It's not as bad as you'd think, to be honest. Gotta find a good local mechanic who won't cut your nuts off like the dealers do. Less things break too. My E doesn't even have a rattle at 65K miles.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7915 on: September 01, 2020, 09:28:34 AM »
I have my first physical therapy this morning, coincident with the wife's (one hour later).  I'm curious about it.  I took Naproxen just now.

My range of motion is decent, there are some things that still hurt so I don't do them.  I fear my overall conditioning has suffered a lot.  I swam a bit yesterday.

My 2005 CTS had no rattles at 85,000 miles.  It was in good shape overall at that point, interior and exterior.  It had a very good paint job.  The 2014 CTS we didn't keep that long, 42 K miles, but it also was rattle free and in very good shape.  The only issues I had with it were tire and wheel related, those 35 profile run flats were a nightmare.  And only Pirelli made run flats in that size, so I had zero options unless I wanted to go with no spare.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7916 on: September 01, 2020, 09:29:54 AM »
It's not as bad as you'd think, to be honest. Gotta find a good local mechanic who won't cut your nuts off like the dealers do. Less things break too. My E doesn't even have a rattle at 65K miles.
But the 3rd party reliability indexes don't tend to rank German cars all that well.  I think that Germans design and engineer very good cars.  I don't think there's much evidence that they manufacture very good cars, certainly not significantly better than their competitors, and in many cases, considerably worse.  Here's an index from the UK:

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Now, I don't know and won't comment on what this might or might not have to do with unions, which is the topic at hand.




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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7917 on: September 01, 2020, 09:34:13 AM »
I'd rather talk about cars for a while.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7918 on: September 01, 2020, 09:57:30 AM »
But the 3rd party reliability indexes don't tend to rank German cars all that well.  I think that Germans design and engineer very good cars.  I don't think there's much evidence that they manufacture very good cars, certainly not significantly better than their competitors, and in many cases, considerably worse.  Here's an index from the UK:

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Now, I don't know and won't comment on what this might or might not have to do with unions, which is the topic at hand.

I was just going to post that very link, utee. 

German cars are nice to lease; expensive to own.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7919 on: September 01, 2020, 09:59:38 AM »
It's not as bad as you'd think, to be honest. Gotta find a good local mechanic who won't cut your nuts off like the dealers do. Less things break too. My E doesn't even have a rattle at 65K miles.
Neither did my Corolla at 95K.Know two mechanics who work on Lexus,Accura,Infinity,Mecedes,BMW,Audi.Their main bitch for yrs were that the German Cars were over engineered.Look at the new vehicles now,I mean really lot of people are getting priced out of getting their cars repaired
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7920 on: September 01, 2020, 10:03:51 AM »
I was just going to post that very link, utee.

German cars are nice to lease; expensive to own.
I guess I'm not a good example. My personal experience has been just fine, owning two (paid for) M-B at the same time.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7921 on: September 01, 2020, 10:18:23 AM »
I guess I'm not a good example. My personal experience has been just fine, owning two (paid for) M-B at the same time.
Badge, you seem like the sort that takes very good care of your belongings... I'm sure religious performance of maintenance instead of waiting until the check engine light comes on has an effect. Across the entire population of owners, however, it seems to not hold true.

But this goes back a ways... I recall probably 10 years ago seeing a consumer reports discussion where they were talking about American cars closing the reliability gap with the Japanese... While still well ahead of the European brands


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7922 on: September 01, 2020, 10:22:07 AM »
Since we're talking cars, I just got one. Used, just short of the warranty. It was underpriced, which has me a tad worried, but it checked out with the mechanic. I'm of a people who drive cars to their death, so hopefully this one lasts well into my 40s.

I was less on top of maintenance on the last one than I should've been (regular oil changed, not paying enough attention to the longer one), granted I think it was a freak incident that did it in. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7923 on: September 01, 2020, 10:24:17 AM »
Badge, you seem like the sort that takes very good care of your belongings... I'm sure religious performance of maintenance instead of waiting until the check engine light comes on has an effect. Across the entire population of owners, however, it seems to not hold true.

But this goes back a ways... I recall probably 10 years ago seeing a consumer reports discussion where they were talking about American cars closing the reliability gap with the Japanese... While still well ahead of the European brands.


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