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Cincydawg

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6832 on: August 26, 2020, 12:59:39 PM »
I'm hard pressed to think ANY cop in the US EVER shoots a person at a routine traffic stop without some complicating situation.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6833 on: August 26, 2020, 01:00:31 PM »
what I dont understand is why doesnt the Governor call in as many national guard as needed to lock that town down

seems to me thay have given up any right to protest after burning down places

put a curfew in place and start arresting 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6834 on: August 26, 2020, 01:01:43 PM »
Panic on the cop's part.  A citizen legally carrying a gun scares the cop.  Probably a bad cop who enjoys being the only armed person in a sea of unarmed civilians.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6835 on: August 26, 2020, 01:11:57 PM »
Kenosha Police say the shooting last night was "vigilante groups" accosting the protesters. And yes, one of the protesters (more, actually), were also armed. That's a powder keg and last night--predictably--it exploded.

As I was saying--a gun fetish. 

This whole thing really sucks.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6836 on: August 26, 2020, 01:12:11 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 26, 2020, 01:00:31 PM
what I dont understand is why doesnt the Governor call in as many national guard as needed to lock that town down

seems to me thay have given up any right to protest after burning down places

put a curfew in place and start arresting
This governor is a pussy. We shall see if he honors the request of the County board. I would be shocked if he actually came here to see what has happened.


Kenosha County Board Chairman John O’Day and Vice Chairwoman Monica Yuhas have sent this letter to Gov. Evers on behalf of the whole County Board, requesting that additional National Guard members with police powers be sent to Kenosha County immediately.

Here is the letter:
"We, the undersigned, are urgently asking for your swift action to activate more National Guard troops with police powers to be sent to Kenosha County. Our county is under attack. Our businesses are under attack. Our homes are under attack. Our local law enforcement agencies need additional support to help bring civility back to our community.
"We are formally asking for 1,500 National Guard members with police powers to be sent to Kenosha County immediately. Our county is in a state of emergency and we need additional law enforcement to help preserve and save Kenosha County.

"We encourage you to visit Kenosha County and see firsthand the destruction that has been inflicted on our community."
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6837 on: August 26, 2020, 01:15:29 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on August 26, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
Kenosha Police say the shooting last night was "vigilante groups" accosting the protesters. And yes, one of the protesters (more, actually), were also armed. That's a powder keg and last night--predictably--it exploded.

As I was saying--a gun fetish.

This whole thing really sucks.
This they are not. This is past that. This is a full-on attack on this City and its people and businesses.

I do not condone vigilante groups, for the record. There are many reports out there of armed civilians protecting their homes and businesses. This I do support, as a right.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6838 on: August 26, 2020, 01:20:03 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 26, 2020, 12:59:39 PM
I'm hard pressed to think ANY cop in the US EVER shoots a person at a routine traffic stop without some complicating situation.


https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/justice/south-carolina-trooper-shooting/index.html
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6839 on: August 26, 2020, 01:22:44 PM »
Sounds like they made an arrest in the shootings
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6840 on: August 26, 2020, 01:23:57 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 26, 2020, 01:22:44 PM
Sounds like they made an arrest in the shootings
Congrats on their first arrest in all of this, I guess?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6841 on: August 26, 2020, 01:24:53 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6842 on: August 26, 2020, 01:25:50 PM »
This governor needs to resign.

Rep. Bryan Steil, R-District 1, issued this statement this morning following the third night of violence in Kenosha: 

"I ask the nation to join me in praying for our community of Kenosha. Last night the situation went from bad to worse. We are once again still gathering the facts. The violence must be stopped. Yesterday, Governor Evers sent 250 National Guard to Kenosha. This was woefully insufficient. Yesterday, I asked the President for additional assistance. He agreed. The offer was rejected by Governor Evers. Again, I call on the Governor to accept the President’s offer of assistance, supported by Kenosha officials, which includes National Guard from other states and federal law enforcement officers. The violence needs to stop now.”
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6843 on: August 26, 2020, 01:26:08 PM »
I would expect that a sizable segment of the looters will be discouraged from looting going forward, now that they know that a few of the town folk are willing to stand up to them. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6844 on: August 26, 2020, 01:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 26, 2020, 12:30:02 PM
How many drivers to police shoot every year for a routine traffic violation?

What percentage of stops end in a shooting when the only issue is a traffic violation?


https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp15.pdf

This is from 2015. There were roughly 27 million traffic stops that year. The number of people killed by police that year was 965.

So, even if every single person of those 965 was killed during a traffic stop (which is ridiculous)  that would still mean your chances of getting killed during a traffic stop were 965 out of 27 million or 0.000035 percent, and that number doesn’t take into account the behavior of the people being pulled over.

If a cop pulls you over and you obey his commands you have a better chance of being struck by lightning  than dying at his hands.

But the narrative is anytime a cop pulls over a black person there is really good chance they’ll end up shooting them.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6845 on: August 26, 2020, 01:29:49 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 26, 2020, 01:24:53 PM
Looks like a bad shooting, but is obviously not a routine traffic stop.


?? He was stopped for a seat belt violation. Not sure what routine means of it isn't that.
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