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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6622 on: August 24, 2020, 04:18:36 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 24, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
"As always, the video currently circulating does not capture all the intricacies of a highly dynamic incident.
We ask that you withhold from passing judgement until all the facts are known and released.

IOW, "we hope that due to the very long time frame of anything having to do with the legal system, you please allow your attention to shift to something else so that 8 months from now we can fully clear the officers involved of any wrongdoing."
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6623 on: August 24, 2020, 04:31:20 PM »
Good try, but Wisconsin law requires this to be completed within 30 days.

I doubt it will even take that long.

This place is like a war zone now. Curfew from 8PM to 7AM, for the entire County, East of I-94. Helicopters flying around. Armored vehicles.

Several large boats just vacated for Northpoint Marina to the South. Where they dock is next to a park - sitting ducks.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6624 on: August 24, 2020, 04:47:31 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 24, 2020, 04:31:20 PM
Good try, but Wisconsin law requires this to be completed within 30 days.

I doubt it will even take that long.

This place is like a war zone now. Curfew from 8PM to 7AM, for the entire County, East of I-94. Helicopters flying around. Armored vehicles.

Several large boats just vacated for Northpoint Marina to the South. Where they dock is next to a park - sitting ducks.
The only thing at all that would clear the officers is if he was reaching for a weapon in the car
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6625 on: August 24, 2020, 04:56:36 PM »
Yep. And since he was recorded as saying he was going to get his gun, he may well have been.

The video is not complete. It doesn't show him resisting arrest (on a warrant), doesn't show him being tazed multiple times, and doesn't have the audio. 

There is other video and audio out there. I saw it this morning on my friend's phone, but I cannot find it. Maybe it's deleted while the investigation is being completed?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6626 on: August 24, 2020, 05:16:06 PM »
sure would be nice to have body camera footage and audio from all officers involved
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6627 on: August 24, 2020, 05:24:31 PM »
I think we will have that eventually, when the investigation is done.

I have full confidence that the Wisconsin DOJ will do the right thing. If that means proving the shooting justified, great. If that means arresting the officer(s) for murder, great.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6628 on: August 24, 2020, 05:28:14 PM »
According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Kenosha police don't have body cameras (budgeted for 2022), but have dash cams. No word at present as to whether said dash cams captured what we don't see before the video of the shooting that is widely available.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6629 on: August 24, 2020, 05:30:21 PM »
What ever happened to tasers?  This zero-to-murder crap is absurd.  The police have access to tons of non-lethals.  USE THEM.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6630 on: August 24, 2020, 05:36:11 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 24, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
What ever happened to tasers?  This zero-to-murder crap is absurd.  The police have access to tons of non-lethals.  USE THEM.
They don't always work, obviously.  One report indicated four Taserings did not slow this fellow down.  I'll await an actual fact based analysis.

I have seen a fair number of shootings that followed attempts to subdue the suspect with Tasers that were ineffective.  The other nonlethals they have require close quarters, and are not always nonlethal.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6631 on: August 24, 2020, 05:59:36 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 24, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
What ever happened to tasers?  This zero-to-murder crap is absurd.  The police have access to tons of non-lethals.  USE THEM.
Based on how often they don’t work, might there be a case they’re just not all that effective 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6632 on: August 24, 2020, 06:02:25 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 24, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
Pete Deates, president of the Kenosha Professional Police Association, issued this statement:

"Anytime deadly force is used, our hearts go out to those affected by it.  We assure you an independent investigation is being conducted by the Wisconsin Department of Justice, Division of Criminal Investigation.
"Until that investigation is completed, we ask that you withhold prejudgment about the incident and please the let process take place. Governor Evers’ statement on the incident was wholly irresponsible and not reflective of the hardworking members of the law enforcement community, not to mention the citizens of the City of Kenosha.
"As always, the video currently circulating does not capture all the intricacies of a highly dynamic incident.
We ask that you withhold from passing judgement until all the facts are known and released.

"We, along with the citizens of the great City of Kenosha, ask for peace and to let the process play out fairly and impartially.


Should always let the process play out. Thus, we shouldn’t have any cops calling that other guy guilty until the verdict or plea is in.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6633 on: August 24, 2020, 06:05:56 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 24, 2020, 06:02:25 PM
Should always let the process play out. Thus, we shouldn’t have any cops calling that other guy guilty until the verdict or plea is in.
Where do you see that? Certainly not in that statement you quoted.  
 
The only public statement that’s been made by a person of authority, was by the Democratic governor who basically claimed by inference that this was a senseless, ruthless murder.

I just don’t know why an elected official would make such a stupid statement at this point in time. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6634 on: August 24, 2020, 06:10:44 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 24, 2020, 06:05:56 PM
I just don’t know why an elected official would make such a stupid statement at this point in time.
because most elected officials are stupid as hell
they couldn't get a real job.....
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6635 on: August 24, 2020, 06:15:04 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 24, 2020, 05:30:21 PM
What ever happened to tasers?  This zero-to-murder crap is absurd.  The police have access to tons of non-lethals.  USE THEM.
They did. FOUR TIMES.

He was messed up on something, or they couldn't get through his clothing. One of the two. I'll assume the former, since he has a history with drug arrests.
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