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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6034 on: August 07, 2020, 11:44:43 AM »
Seconded. 

i’m not voting for either of these candidates because I dislike them both. I think that makes me uniquely qualified unbiased.

If the Democrats are so confident of Biden’s popularity and trumps not popularity, which they clearly are and that is represented very well here in this forum, I don’t understand why they’re so concerned about getting mail in ballots out there.
Because for some people it's not just about imaginary right v. Left battles. We are only a democracy (or republic if you are feeling semantic) to the extent people choose to vote. Of their are dumb roadblocks in the way designer solely to prevent people from participating, it's a sign of being a nonfunctional country. Of you want this country too be the best, you have to do the work.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6035 on: August 07, 2020, 11:46:07 AM »
Yeah, I can't believe that this candidate gets a pass* on saying such an outlandish thing!

* "Gets a pass" in this case means such immediate and forceful criticism from his own supporters such that he had to "clarify" his remarks within 24 hours of making them.
This isnt the first time Biden has said something stupid concerning African Americans


"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6036 on: August 07, 2020, 12:05:17 PM »
Because for some people it's not just about imaginary right v. Left battles. We are only a democracy (or republic if you are feeling semantic) to the extent people choose to vote. Of their are dumb roadblocks in the way designer solely to prevent people from participating, it's a sign of being a nonfunctional country. Of you want this country too be the best, you have to do the work.
In your view, what is designed to prevent people from participating ?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6037 on: August 07, 2020, 12:07:21 PM »
Yeah, I can't believe that this candidate gets a pass* on saying such an outlandish thing!

* "Gets a pass" in this case means such immediate and forceful criticism from his own supporters such that he had to "clarify" his remarks within 24 hours of making them.
Yes I honestly hadn’t seen that, until 847 posted it.   So I did my usual scan of the six MSN outlets.  He didn’t really need to backtrack because five of the six outlets we’re doing it on his behalf and working very hard to explain but it really wasn’t that bad what he said and also try to explain what he meant LOL. And incidentally that’s the only coverage they gave it to their backtracking for him.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6038 on: August 07, 2020, 12:08:57 PM »
Any time anyone generalizes about a large group of people, it often ends badly.

I'm against all over generalizations.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6039 on: August 07, 2020, 12:43:54 PM »
My son remained on our voter rolls for several years.  His name was next to mine.  I mentioned it to them, but they are just volunteers of course and couldn't do anything about it.  Unless the voter rolls are "clean", you'd get quite a few dead people being sent ballots via mail.  And I routinely get mail for the folks who lived here before us.  I get mail for folks who live in different units routinely, 2-3 times a week.

And then there is intentional acts like hiding mail or getting bags of mail the day the ballots are sent out.  It wouldn't take much to manage that in BG states.

I think a LOT of safe guards would need to be devised before I, and many others, would trust a mail result.
Cleaning up voting rolls has become politically fraught.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6040 on: August 07, 2020, 12:50:08 PM »
I wondered how they are updated when someone dies who was registered.  I don't think anyone checks the death announcements.  They stay on the rolls, usually not voting, but still listed, for years.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6041 on: August 07, 2020, 01:18:46 PM »
My wife called the board of elections shortly after he mom passed away about 6 years or so ago to ensure that she was removed from the voter rolls. I don't remember what all she had to go through, but she did have to provide them with a copy of the death certificate. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6042 on: August 07, 2020, 01:22:09 PM »
I never thought to call anyone.  I ran into problems a couple times dealing with life insurance because the piece of paper says "Report of Casualty", and interim.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6043 on: August 07, 2020, 02:02:34 PM »
Cleaning up voting rolls has become politically fraught.
Saying something is fraught without telling what it is fraught with makes me fraught with anger. :96:

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6044 on: August 07, 2020, 02:02:43 PM »
In your view, what is designed to prevent people from participating ?
Here is a study on states based on how easy or hard it is to vote.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/elj.2017.0478

This is not a left v. right dichotomy, policies widely vary on all sorts of factors.  For example, is there early voting, is it easy to vote by mail, is voter registration automatic, etc. etc.  We know there are examples of legislatures intentionally trying to prevent poeple from voting.  For example, in North Carolina they came up with a voter ID scheme where they studied what kinds of ID's white and black voters might use and then disqualified the ones black people use more.  That was illegal and was overturned, but in my view, any restriction which makes it more difficult to vote and isn't justified by something pretty substantial is an unacceptable restriction on voting.  Corruption is often the reason - instead of valuing the people, the people in charge value being in charge.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6045 on: August 07, 2020, 02:03:17 PM »
I wondered how they are updated when someone dies who was registered.  I don't think anyone checks the death announcements.  They stay on the rolls, usually not voting, but still listed, for years.
Obviously you're not from Chicago.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6046 on: August 07, 2020, 02:12:25 PM »
Obviously you're not from Chicago.
I was going to say... I think Old Man Daley is still voting "early and often", and he's been dead for 43 years.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6047 on: August 07, 2020, 02:21:20 PM »
Here is a study on states based on how easy or hard it is to vote.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/elj.2017.0478

This is not a left v. right dichotomy, policies widely vary on all sorts of factors.  For example, is there early voting, is it easy to vote by mail, is voter registration automatic, etc. etc.  We know there are examples of legislatures intentionally trying to prevent poeple from voting.  For example, in North Carolina they came up with a voter ID scheme where they studied what kinds of ID's white and black voters might use and then disqualified the ones black people use more.  That was illegal and was overturned, but in my view, any restriction which makes it more difficult to vote and isn't justified by something pretty substantial is an unacceptable restriction on voting.  Corruption is often the reason - instead of valuing the people, the people in charge value being in charge. 
Well of course I would be totally and strongly against anything that makes it hard for a legitimate voter, who really wants to vote, to be able to do so.

i’m not so sure that case in North Carolina could be called a “scheme“ but rather something the courts viewed as having a racial bias not necessarily intentionally. 
I also find it interesting and disappointing that there are things like “IDs that white people normally carry versus IDs that Black people normally carry.”  Shouldn’t there be a baseline on something like that? Any form of government issued identification with a photograph?
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