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Will you listen to published demands and goals and agendas? Direct quotes? 

I will go do your homework for you and post them if your answer is yes. 

I mean, you brought me something meant to fearmonger and make a political point. Should I trust you'll not bring me more of that?

Here's the thing, I'm not going to pretend BLM is something I agree with on more than maybe a subject or two. I honestly think it's an organization too defuse and disorganized to have much in the way of guiding principles. I think they mostly exist as a manifestation of some feelings that makes noise and rattles cages (and I'm doubtful it translates to actual political power as say the noisy and cage rattling Tea Partiers of yesteryear). 

I looked over the demands, well the copy of them since the original site with the coalition BLM apparently joined doesn't exist anymore. Some grandstanding to be sure. Most won't amount to a hill of beans. Shoot, even if their most limited aims come to pass, some kind of start on unbundling the police, I'd be more than surprised. 

As long as many of us are source-blind and context-retarded, there's no use on even have the conversation.

Except we are not those things. Written words are hard sometimes. If we were in a room, things would be much different.

Yet I'll bet if someone tried to do it to me based just on what I've written at The Liberty Papers, they'd be able to make me out to be the love child of Hitler and Vlad the Impaler.

Well then you should give more locker room pep talks.Like the one you gave the Boilers on 10-28-18.What are the Liberty Papers?

By some metrics the recent protests were the largest in the history of the country. But a much, much smaller number of people are actually affiliated with the organisation, which as far as I can tell is somewhat loose.

 Very accurate.  That was part of my point.  Those who founded the actual organization, and its roots, are well documented.  They have stated goals and beliefs that THEY wrote.   But much of those who marched in their name and with them in recent months are narrowly focused on the racial injustice highlighted by recent events. 

I mean, you brought me something meant to fearmonger and make a political point. Should I trust you'll not bring me more of that?

Here's the thing, I'm not going to pretend BLM is something I agree with on more than maybe a subject or two. I honestly think it's an organization too defuse and disorganized to have much in the way of guiding principles. I think they mostly exist as a manifestation of some feelings that makes noise and rattles cages (and I'm doubtful it translates to actual political power as say the noisy and cage rattling Tea Partiers of yesteryear).

I looked over the demands, well the copy of them since the original site with the coalition BLM apparently joined doesn't exist anymore. Some grandstanding to be sure. Most won't amount to a hill of beans. Shoot, even if their most limited aims come to pass, some kind of start on unbundling the police, I'd be more than surprised.

I find you humorous at times.   

the question was being asked by several posters here, several times:  what do they want?   I simply shared BLM’s written words, and spoken words to answer that very simple question.  They have documented exactly what they want.   Exactly.  

That you call that fear mongering to make a political point, is a big swing and a miss, but in your defense that is the way of social media today when the facts upset a person’s narrative.  

I am not even judging their goals. That is not for me to say, although to show my open mindedness, I will admit that I actually think several of their ideas make sense to me.

Now here is where I see your opinion and respectfully disagree:  the things you say won’t amount to a hill of beans, in some case, enjoy broad support by a number of powerful voices within our elected officials.

Much of how people react on this board is also dependent on what mood they are in, and what/how current events are affecting their day/week/month.

This virus has taken more of a toll than just being a virus. Of that I am certain. I'm also certain that much of the toll it has taken has been media driven, as well as how our elected officials have positioned it for their own gain.

That doesn't even take into account the economic, social and mental aspects. None of it is good, except I will say that my wife and I have grown even closer through this. That might be a rarity?? Not sure.

How about you all here?

This wasn't getting it done, so...

So....   so what ?   What is your point please.