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Honestbuckeye

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2842 on: June 07, 2020, 01:19:31 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 07, 2020, 01:08:40 PM
They are, though some amuse me.

(Is that one supposed to be taken seriously? It's kinda like those shirts that show native american warriors with the header "Original Homeland Security")
Well you don’t get to be the arbiter of what ideas a political persuasion- in this particular case, the left- are to be taken seriously

To glorify Antifa in that matter/ which is now a rapidly growing trend/ see CNN- is beyond serious and alarming to many- I I can completely understand why. 

It is like this concept of defunding and or eliminating police.  We now have elected officials not only pushing this- forming public rallies in it. Why some here are so dismissive of it is weird to me.  Elected Dem officials are espousing this. Think about that fact.  It’s coming.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2843 on: June 07, 2020, 01:24:39 PM »
A few years ago I sold 3 guns, as my wife requested I do.

She told me this morning that she regrets asking me to do it. I regret not keeping firm. Oh well. I still have 3, and I can still fire only one at a time.

I'd like to find some extra clips. All of my guns came from my son (the Marine) so maybe he can find them. Ammo is pretty tough to find too, now, he tells me.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2844 on: June 07, 2020, 01:26:58 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on June 07, 2020, 01:19:31 PM
Well you don’t get to be the arbiter of what ideas a political persuasion- in this particular case, the left- are to be taken seriously

To glorify Antifa in that matter/ which is now a rapidly growing trend/ see CNN- is beyond serious and alarming to many- I I can completely understand why. 

It is like this concept of defunding and or eliminating police.  We now have elected officials not only pushing this- forming public rallies in it. Why some here are so dismissive of it is weird to me.  Elected Dem officials are espousing this. Think about that fact.  It’s coming.
You are right. I cannot tell people not to be upset by things. They have the rights to their own strong feelings and to take offense to what offends them. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2845 on: June 07, 2020, 01:29:59 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2020, 01:24:39 PM
A few years ago I sold 3 guns, as my wife requested I do.

She told me this morning that she regrets asking me to do it. I regret not keeping firm. Oh well. I still have 3, and I can still fire only one at a time.

I'd like to find some extra clips. All of my guns came from my son (the Marine) so maybe he can find them. Ammo is pretty tough to find too, now, he tells me.
Likewise.  I have never owned a weapon.  That changed very recently.  

it is simple- I now feel the need to defend my home, my family and I do not have confidence that the direction things are going, will afford me the protection from violence I once took for granted 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2846 on: June 07, 2020, 01:35:22 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2020, 01:24:39 PM
A few years ago I sold 3 guns, as my wife requested I do.

She told me this morning that she regrets asking me to do it. I regret not keeping firm. Oh well. I still have 3, and I can still fire only one at a time.

I'd like to find some extra clips. All of my guns came from my son (the Marine) so maybe he can find them. Ammo is pretty tough to find too, now, he tells me.
I find the psychology of something like this fascinating. It always feels like something that's more about a feeling of safety than functional per say, but obviously a feeling of safety is something can be important. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2847 on: June 07, 2020, 01:53:26 PM »
Cities will claim to defund the police by cutting their budget a bit and reallocating monies for some social program, and in 2-3 years that will revert back again.

It's a cycle.

And in general, that thing that holds cartridges in a firearm is a magazine, a clip is something that is rarely employed any more, if it matters.  Gun nuts will call you a newbie if you confuse the two.  And if guns are new to you, get some serious training.  Some folks get something like a 9 mm and don't realize it can hold a round in the chamber when the magazine is out.  Don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Don't ever point it in the direction of a human unless you have to.  And check the chamber for a "hidden" round, and check it again.  Youse guys know all this.

Some tactical training is also advised.  It's interesting.  

I tell people the story about my airplane incident when the engine finally did fail, it was like my hands were doing stuff automatically, muscle memory.  I was mentally somewhat detached.  I'd been through the exercise often enough that I knew what needed to be done (not that it's very complex).

My piano playing is kind of the same, sometimes my hands "know" where to go before I do.  I'm at about 70% of where I used to be.  Maybe.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2848 on: June 07, 2020, 02:08:19 PM »
For home defense, what's better? Revolver or shotgun? 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2849 on: June 07, 2020, 02:17:13 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 07, 2020, 02:08:19 PM
For home defense, what's better? Revolver or shotgun?
Both.

Putting a laser sight on a forehead could work well too, I imagine.

But, if you had to choose one, shotgun it is.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2850 on: June 07, 2020, 02:24:55 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 07, 2020, 02:08:19 PM
For home defense, what's better? Revolver or shotgun?

An issue with a shotgun or any long gun is simply that it is a bit unwieldly, you can't quickly check around a corner if that is a need.  A shotgun has the advantage of being "almost can't miss" a target inside 20 feet or so.  A 9 mm will often have a 15 round magazine, so there is that advantage over a revolver.

I have a very small fixe shot .357 with internal hammer that works nicely, you can shoot .38 specials, or +Ps, etc.  A .357 round will pretty much penetrate anything you're like to hit in a house, probably not the fridge.  

If I personally had one weapon for home defense, inside the home, it was be a 9 mm.  I think.  But whatever you are comfortable with and proficient with is best.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2851 on: June 07, 2020, 02:25:39 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 07, 2020, 02:08:19 PM
For home defense, what's better? Revolver or shotgun?

An AR-15, if your house is getting swarmed by looters during a riot/power outage/natural disaster. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2852 on: June 07, 2020, 02:27:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2020, 02:17:13 PM
Both.

Putting a laser sight on a forehead could work well too, I imagine.

But, if you had to choose one, shotgun it is.
That might be tricky because you need a friend to tell you it's there. Can't see your forehead. 

A shotgun would certianly be easier to aim, but with the downside of messing up more of your house. Granted, the sound of the pump action might be it's own deterrent. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2853 on: June 07, 2020, 02:34:46 PM »
I figure if I had a house being swarmed by looters, either a shot gun blast would encourage them to go elsewhere, or I would be overwhelmed.  At least it makes more noise than a 5.56 round.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2854 on: June 07, 2020, 02:43:15 PM »
If got a Glock 17 and feel very secure with it

We live in a pretty good neighborhood so hopefully I'll never need it but you never know

Theres a story about someone getting on a Houston bus a while back with the intent of robbing its passengers

when he stood up and pulled his gun no less then 3 passengers pulled theirs at which time he gave up and was held for arrest

only in Texas
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2855 on: June 07, 2020, 02:43:57 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 07, 2020, 02:27:20 PM
That might be tricky because you need a friend to tell you it's there. Can't see your forehead.

A shotgun would certianly be easier to aim, but with the downside of messing up more of your house. Granted, the sound of the pump action might be it's own deterrent.
You can see the laser. I've tested this.

Yeah, shotgun would leave a big mess - of the intruder and your house. But, that's all better than being a victim.
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