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the thing I like about the Glock 17 is that it makes a big noise and has a lot of stopping power

a 15 shot clip is also handy

Cities will claim to defund the police by cutting their budget a bit and reallocating monies for some social program, and in 2-3 years that will revert back again.

It's a cycle.

And in general, that thing that holds cartridges in a firearm is a magazine, a clip is something that is rarely employed any more, if it matters.  Gun nuts will call you a newbie if you confuse the two.  And if guns are new to you, get some serious training.  Some folks get something like a 9 mm and don't realize it can hold a round in the chamber when the magazine is out.  Don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.  Don't ever point it in the direction of a human unless you have to.  And check the chamber for a "hidden" round, and check it again.  Youse guys know all this.

Some tactical training is also advised.  It's interesting. 

I tell people the story about my airplane incident when the engine finally did fail, it was like my hands were doing stuff automatically, muscle memory.  I was mentally somewhat detached.  I'd been through the exercise often enough that I knew what needed to be done (not that it's very complex).

My piano playing is kind of the same, sometimes my hands "know" where to go before I do.  I'm at about 70% of where I used to be.  Maybe.

Well said.  I mentioned I never owned a weapon, but I never said I am not trained and practiced at it. 😉
I hope with all of my heart that I never need to fire it outside the range that is about 2 miles from me.

If you pick a Glock, then of course you have to decide on what caliber and cartridge type.

For naval rifles, the term "caliber" refers to the length of the barrel to the diameter of the block.  So, a gun might be 16 inch 50 calibers.

WW II tank guns had the same sort of designation.  The Panzer IV started out with a short 75 mm main gun, 30 caliber I think it was, and later was fitted with a more powerful 75 mm gun in 75 calibers, I probably have the second 75 wrong.  I'd hafta look it up.

The Panzer IV F2 and up were upgunned to try and handle the Soviet T34 and KV tanks.

Glock 17 uses 9 MM

I would say that anyone associated with White Supremacy or anti-semitism is far far right. 
They don’t represent voices of middle to middle right.

There's plenty of anti-Semitism on the far left.  A couple of the 1st-term, far-left, minority congresswoman verge on Holocaust-denial.
And the Nazis in Germany claimed to be the party of the Left.  Goebbels said: “The idea of the Nazi Party is expressly that we are the German Left.  Nothing is more hated by us than the right-wing national property-owner's bloc.”
A lot of people don't fit neatly on a 2-dimensional political model.
But I agree that "conservatives" who advocate white supremacy or anti-Semitism are on the extreme fringe.  At the extremes, it's sometimes hard to tell left and right apart.  The operational similarities seem far more substantial than the rhetorical differences.

Yes, and the two standard magazines are 10 (+1) and 17 (+1).

That is a lot of rounds from a single mag.  Glocks in general come in all sorts of type of course.  I recall folks terrorized that it was a plastic gun.

I have the 17 shot clip

Im not sure how many times Ive been to the range with it but its a lot and it is the most dependable gun Ive ever owned

it has never jammed on me and Im pretty happy with it

I dont do conceal & carry as its strictly for home protection

I have a Taurus 9 mm with a 16 round magazine.  It's too big to carry concealed without quite a bit of effort.  I have another Taurus in 9 mm that is much smaller, and the aforesaid .357, which is bulky because of the cylinder.  I left the shotgun in Cincinnati.

There's plenty of anti-Semitism on the far left.  A couple of the 1st-term, far-left, minority congresswoman verge on Holocaust-denial.

Is this true? I’ve seen some of them calling for BDS. That isn’t the same as being a Holocaust denier. Far from it. You can be a critic of Israel and not be Anti-Semitic or Holocaust denier. I see a lot of people trying to call anyone who dares criticize Israel an anti-Semite or Holocaust denier and it’s almost as ridiculous as HRC calling anyone who doesn’t bow at the feet of her alter a Russian puppet.