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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2114 on: May 19, 2020, 01:47:40 PM »
I enjoyed that Rose Bowl too.

The play where Bevell scored his TD on the ground took about 15 minutes in real time.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2115 on: May 19, 2020, 04:58:39 PM »
My favorite UW RB was Dayne rolling over UCLA.  The one vs Stanford was meh.  This past one with Oregon was fun to watch, too.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2116 on: May 19, 2020, 06:20:34 PM »
My favorite UW RB was Dayne rolling over UCLA.  The one vs Stanford was meh.  This past one with Oregon was fun to watch, too.
There's a place where you can go and it's straight to hell. 

(Kidding, mostly. That said, UW's four Rose Bowl losses of this decade have all been competitive and interesting. Even the one when UW was totally outgunned and had a gimpy old guy at QB)

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2117 on: May 19, 2020, 06:24:08 PM »
I enjoyed the 2006 Rose Bowl the best.  Followed closely by the 2005 Rose Bowl.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2118 on: May 19, 2020, 06:26:47 PM »
I hated the one in which TCU beat Wisconsin.  I think Badge has said that Brett outsmarted himself in that one.  I kept waiting for the Badgers to just mash the smallish TCU D-line, and they kept throwing the ball instead.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2119 on: May 19, 2020, 06:36:21 PM »
I hated the one in which TCU beat Wisconsin.  I think Badge has said that Brett outsmarted himself in that one.  I kept waiting for the Badgers to just mash the smallish TCU D-line, and they kept throwing the ball instead.
HCs should always keep this in the back of their mind - your opponent may try to trick you into throwing more than you'd like, but they'll rarely (if ever) try to trick you into running the ball more than you want to.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2120 on: May 19, 2020, 07:21:44 PM »
HCs should always keep this in the back of their mind - your opponent may try to trick you into throwing more than you'd like, but they'll rarely (if ever) try to trick you into running the ball more than you want to. 
In general, that is probably true but I definitely saw teams during the Holgorsen era try to bait him into running the ball.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2121 on: May 19, 2020, 08:13:04 PM »
I hated the one in which TCU beat Wisconsin.  I think Badge has said that Brett outsmarted himself in that one.  I kept waiting for the Badgers to just mash the smallish TCU D-line, and they kept throwing the ball instead.
I did a rewatch on this at some point. This impression is ... well it reflects the way our memories get kind of selective. They ran their kind of normal offense more than you think. You had maybe a couple instances of throwing on early downs, but not many, and I think TCU went bear front and spilled everything well.

The game was weird because of a mess of reasons like it was short, UW short circuited like three drives and TCU was super efficent with its scoring chances and field position. TCU also made like 3-4 really nice last line of defense tackles and did enough to disrupt elements of the passing game. 

It's a very interesting rewatch. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2122 on: May 19, 2020, 08:18:50 PM »
Enjoying the 94 RB on BTN.  Quick replay, with plays only, no down time.
I was at the Orange Bowl during the end of this RB.  Some guy had a tiny little TV with a long ass antenna, we watched DB stroll to the end zone.   Ucla had a few too many turnovers I recall. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2123 on: May 19, 2020, 08:23:11 PM »
HCs should always keep this in the back of their mind - your opponent may try to trick you into throwing more than you'd like, but they'll rarely (if ever) try to trick you into running the ball more than you want to. 
They ran the ball like 68 percent of the time. 

They had some issues with not getting what you'd like out of play-action, and a set of pass pro problems. Also TCU just flat out made some plays, hard plays or smart ones beating blocks. I really want to find a copy of the coach's film from that one. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2124 on: May 19, 2020, 08:47:09 PM »
I did a rewatch on this at some point. This impression is ... well it reflects the way our memories get kind of selective. They ran their kind of normal offense more than you think. You had maybe a couple instances of throwing on early downs, but not many, and I think TCU went bear front and spilled everything well.

The game was weird because of a mess of reasons like it was short, UW short circuited like three drives and TCU was super efficent with its scoring chances and field position. TCU also made like 3-4 really nice last line of defense tackles and did enough to disrupt elements of the passing game.

It's a very interesting rewatch.
I'm sure you're right about selective memories.  I'm probably remembering a handful of short-yardage plays where UW threw for it and failed.  I do remember at the end of the game wondering why they hadn't played "Wisconsin football" more and passed less.
I probably didn't give enough credit to TCU, but then I don't give much credit to TCU because I don't think TCU contributes much to the conference.  They've got a small following in the D/FW metroplex, which is already owned by other Big 12 teams (and to some degree Texas A&M).  I can think of other non-P5 programs I would have rather elevated to P5 status.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2125 on: May 19, 2020, 09:12:21 PM »
I'm sure you're right about selective memories.  I'm probably remembering a handful of short-yardage plays where UW threw for it and failed.  I do remember at the end of the game wondering why they hadn't played "Wisconsin football" more and passed less.
I probably didn't give enough credit to TCU, but then I don't give much credit to TCU because I don't think TCU contributes much to the conference.  They've got a small following in the D/FW metroplex, which is already owned by other Big 12 teams (and to some degree Texas A&M).  I can think of other non-P5 programs I would have rather elevated to P5 status.
It's a game that kind of feeds into that because it was decided by all the weird plays on the margins and a second half that saw UW's offense pinned over and over and finally break through when it was backed against a wall. It's a tough game to get your hands around. I've watched it over like 3-4 times, and even then, it's tricky.

TCU is weird. At the time, it was without a doubt one of the best candidates to elevate from a success standpoint, and after arriving have been fifth in the conference in terms of wins, a game behind K-State and 2.5 behind Baylor. But if you wanted something from a conference footprint side, never really worked. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2126 on: May 19, 2020, 09:40:10 PM »
There are better, bigger public university options in TX.  And with CU leaving, not exactly any realistic footprint-expansion options at all.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2127 on: May 19, 2020, 10:05:33 PM »
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