header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Misfits Thread

 (Read 400520 times)

betarhoalphadelta

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 12170
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1428 on: April 17, 2020, 10:02:47 AM »
Supposed to only hit a high of 65 here today... Supposedly scattered showers tomorrow, but we'll see. 

I'll need to brew some beer this weekend, and would prefer tomorrow, but maybe it'll push to Sunday.

MrNubbz

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 17125
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1429 on: April 17, 2020, 10:06:40 AM »

I'll need to brew some beer this weekend, and would prefer tomorrow, but maybe it'll push to Sunday.
Of course this should always be on the bucket list,w/o interference from the wife.And you can tell her we support you in your decision.........somewhere Fearless is proud
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

bayareabadger

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 7849
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1430 on: April 17, 2020, 10:11:20 AM »
Winning a bowl game is nice.

Losing 5 or 6 games per year isn't.

Sucking sucks.
I wonder if the Big 12 title game as it's presently structured changes perception. Like in the past, you could be Texas, go 10-2 and not have the possibility of losing an extra game.

I think Texas would be all but back with three years in a row of 9-3 and not making the title game or 10-2 heading into the conference title game with at least one of the latter. With like a blend of some kind of postseason success (like 2-2 in the bowls/conference title game). Maybe they have to go to multiple conference title games and win one. 

It's weird because on the one hand, you want to tie it to conference titles. But Texas has three in 24 seasons, and one of those teams was 7-4 heading and pulled off a dumb upset. 

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37491
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1431 on: April 17, 2020, 12:24:44 PM »
In short Texas - Coaching,Nebraska - Recruiting
I'm texting Coach Frost now

He needs to know
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37491
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1432 on: April 17, 2020, 12:26:00 PM »
It's weird because on the one hand, you want to tie it to conference titles. But Texas has three in 24 seasons, and one of those teams was 7-4 heading and pulled off a dumb upset.
Damn it!
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37491
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1433 on: April 17, 2020, 01:16:29 PM »
The NCAA Eligibility Center is waiving the standardized test score requirement for incoming freshman student-athletes in both Division I and Division II for the 2020-21 academic year because of the coronavirus pandemic, the governing body announced Friday.

Students who expect to graduate from high school in time to enroll in a Division I school this coming academic year will be academically eligible by earning a combined 2.3 grade-point average in the 10 NCAA-approved core courses, with a combined seven in English, math and science prior to the start of their senior year. There is a 2.2 GPA requirement in 10 NCAA-approved core courses for Division II schools.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29049387/ncaa-waives-test-scores-freshmen-eligibility
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

CWSooner

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Posts: 6045
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1434 on: April 17, 2020, 01:28:26 PM »
I wonder if the Big 12 title game as it's presently structured changes perception. Like in the past, you could be Texas, go 10-2 and not have the possibility of losing an extra game.

I think Texas would be all but back with three years in a row of 9-3 and not making the title game or 10-2 heading into the conference title game with at least one of the latter. With like a blend of some kind of postseason success (like 2-2 in the bowls/conference title game). Maybe they have to go to multiple conference title games and win one.

It's weird because on the one hand, you want to tie it to conference titles. But Texas has three in 24 seasons, and one of those teams was 7-4 heading and pulled off a dumb upset.
If I were King of the NCAA for a day, I would dictate that all conferences play full round-robin schedules and ban conference championship games.
The Big 12 (-2) actually had it right for a few years, albeit from necessity rather than choice.
Play Like a Champion Today

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71463
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1435 on: April 17, 2020, 01:32:27 PM »
I would cap conferences at 12 members and make each P5 team play at least 10 P5 level teams a season.

I would think about saying if the review booth can't make a decision in 60 seconds the ruling stands.

CWSooner

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Posts: 6045
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1436 on: April 17, 2020, 01:34:32 PM »
Yeah, limiting the time for review to 60 seconds is worth consideration.
Play Like a Champion Today

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37491
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1437 on: April 17, 2020, 01:37:36 PM »
I would cap conferences at 12 members and make each P5 team play at least 10 P5 level teams a season.

I would think about saying if the review booth can't make a decision in 60 seconds the ruling stands.
10 teams, nine round robin conference schedule

6 big boy conferences = 3 play in playoff games
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25176
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1438 on: April 17, 2020, 01:53:41 PM »
The NCAA Eligibility Center is waiving the standardized test score requirement for incoming freshman student-athletes in both Division I and Division II for the 2020-21 academic year because of the coronavirus pandemic, the governing body announced Friday.

Students who expect to graduate from high school in time to enroll in a Division I school this coming academic year will be academically eligible by earning a combined 2.3 grade-point average in the 10 NCAA-approved core courses, with a combined seven in English, math and science prior to the start of their senior year. There is a 2.2 GPA requirement in 10 NCAA-approved core courses for Division II schools.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29049387/ncaa-waives-test-scores-freshmen-eligibility
That's not going to help a lot of schools, to be honest. NCAA requirements are bare bones. This is what UW requires (19 total for most athletes):

(LMAO Statistics...)

[th]Subject Area[/th]
[th]Years[/th]
English4
Math *4
Social Studies3-4
Science3-4
Single Foreign Language **3-4
Additional Academic/Fine Arts2
Total Units19-22


* Math requirement includes at least one year each of algebra, geometry, and advanced math, or an integrated sequence of courses. If you take any of these courses in middle school, that will count toward the requirement. Courses that will not fulfill this requirement include: statistics, business math, and computer classes.

NCAA: What are core courses?



Not all high school classes count as NCAA core courses. Only classes in English, math (Algebra 1 or higher), natural or physical science, social science, foreign language, comparative religion or philosophy may be approved as NCAA core courses. Remedial classes and classes completed through credit-by-exam are not considered NCAA core courses.



Classes that are NCAA core courses include:

  • English: English 1-4, American Literature, creative writing
  • Math: Algebra 1-3, Geometry, statistics
  • Natural of physical science: biology, chemistry, physics
  • Social science: American History, civics, government
  • Additional: comparative religion, Spanish 1-4


U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

bayareabadger

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 7849
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1439 on: April 17, 2020, 02:40:56 PM »
I would cap conferences at 12 members and make each P5 team play at least 10 P5 level teams a season.

I would think about saying if the review booth can't make a decision in 60 seconds the ruling stands.
I wonder about the understated byproduct of this would be a dent in the sport's financial fortunes. 

One of the interesting quirks in the sport is that quality and popularity are highly intertwined. On average, if your program is more popular, it can create better financial backing and that can buy tools (coaches, facilities, illicit payments. What's also interesting is that success drives finances as well, i.e., if UGA won four games a year it would make less money than if it won nine a year. 

And what's interesting about a system that cuts down on P5-G5 or FCS games basically is transferring losses, on average from those worse teams to better ones and more notably from less popular teams to more popular ones. So on an average year, NIU or Western Michigan might go from 5-7 to 7-5, but a mid-tier P5 team might go from 8-4 to 6-6 and be just as good (or a Big Ten team like Illinois might miss a bowl). 

Now this factors in because our standards of success likely won't shift much, even if records shift some. Almost one feels better about a good 7-5 than a softer 8-4. So there's a net loss in joy for the most popular teams, which end up drawing the revenue. 

(A shorter version would be this, because of the more fish bowl nature of the NFL, more fanbases are not happy with the results than in college. And we'd be moving closer to that sort of thing on the P5 side, which accounts for the most people)

Not that it would be an impediment, but it would be an interesting externality. 

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25176
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1440 on: April 17, 2020, 02:53:34 PM »
I'd cap the at 11. Play 10 conference games, no CCG. 66 P5 teams.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

MichiFan87

  • Player
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 796
  • Liked:
Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #1441 on: April 17, 2020, 03:02:10 PM »
I've suggested this before, and I still think the best solution is to add a 13th game for all schools while doing away with conference championship games and also go to 10 conference games.

This would allow every school to average 7 home games per year even if they play 2 tough non-con games per season, leaving the 13th game as a guarantee home game.

Of course the aftermath of this pandemic situation could change college sports in ways that we can't even predict....
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing”
― Bo Schembechler

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.