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Topic: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2020, 10:59:11 AM »
I personally never compared OAN with CNN of course, so that is a straw man, other than noting I lean to thinking they ALL are propaganda outlets, which indeed i is my opinion.  Some are slicker at it than others.

I've never watched a second of OAN and would not know they existed were it not for some posters posting links to them, and that I heard one of their "reporters" at the Presidential press thingee asking some softball leading questions.  So, I have only a vague and indirect opinion about OAN, and have no desire to further develop said opinion.

I have seen how an interview can be distorted by the media firsthand, and for no obvious reason.  I think some of that is haste and some sloppiness.

I have seen how 60 Minutes starts with a conclusion and then force fits the story to conform to said conclusion.

The media outlets with few exceptions are commercial enterprises and their objective is profits, meaning eyeballs, meaning they pander to their viewers with confirmation bias.


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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2020, 11:07:46 AM »
Exactly.
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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2020, 11:12:32 AM »

The media outlets with few exceptions are commercial enterprises and their objective is profits, meaning eyeballs, meaning they pander to their viewers with confirmation bias.


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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2020, 11:17:25 AM »
OK, let's not screw up the thread any more than we already have. I'm sorry I brought up my point.
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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2020, 07:08:21 PM »
Apparently, the compromise at oSu addressed some very important issues.


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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2020, 07:59:52 PM »
Apparently, the compromise at oSu addressed some very important issues.

Not.

Not sure I trust Gottlieb, but it's no surprise to see there are probably a lot of rules aimed at black kids for no real reason

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2020, 12:12:27 AM »
That's not the point. It's a T-shirt.
I'd ordinarily agree with you, but not with this.  Even having that t-shirt says something, and it's not good, especially for a leader of 50 young black men.  

If i was one of them, the picture would suddenly alienate me from my HC, fair or not.  That is the only repercussion he should face, and it's a biggie.
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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2020, 07:18:09 AM »
A HC needs to be totally PC to the extent possible today, and bland and boring.

It's part of the job.  Anything that can be construed as "extreme" will be, in either direction.

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2020, 07:49:43 AM »
I'd ordinarily agree with you, but not with this.  Even having that t-shirt says something, and it's not good, especially for a leader of 50 young black men. 

If i was one of them, the picture would suddenly alienate me from my HC, fair or not.  That is the only repercussion he should face, and it's a biggie.
I basically agree. I’m sure there are a lot of coaches who have political beliefs that differ from those of the majority of their players.  They  certainly have the right to express those beliefs but risk losing the locker room.

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2020, 08:08:18 AM »
Yeah but simply comparing these propaganda networks to CNN as if they are remotely the same thing is kind of silly. It's like saying a Harlequin romance and Romeo and Juliet are the same quality because they both contain words.
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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2020, 08:09:50 AM »
A HC needs to be totally PC to the extent possible today, and bland and boring.

It's part of the job.  Anything that can be construed as "extreme" will be, in either direction.
That's a pretty common attitude among pretty much everyone in a position of leadership.  It's worth thinking about those things in relation to the protests - it certainly feels like the leaders follow the people more than the other way around.

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2020, 08:12:17 AM »
If I view them ALL as propagandistic, I'm not comparing them internally, obviously.  I'm sure some are better than others.  Usually, "better" means the version that is most aligned with your personal beliefs.

I try and read a range of new reports from differing outlets.  I OFTEN find one type will ignore a known set of facts and hype another, and the other does the reverse.  It happens routinely, one news outlet will feature a story prominently and another will have it on page 27, below the fold, so to speak, and leave out relevant information that appears to be accurate.

I think all of that qualifies as propaganda.  Bias in reportage, whatever you want to call it.  They start with a conclusion and then fit the data to said conclusion.

The COVID reportage is but one recent example.

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Re: 2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2020, 08:22:26 AM »
If you believe this, I have a bridge to sell ya.
Hopefully not a collapsed one

 

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