2020 Non-Big Ten Offseason Thread

[Cincydawg]

Yeah, UNC has given Clemson some issues at times, and could again.  This could be the best UNC team in a long time.  They have a very good QB.

[medinabuckeye1]

UNC might have enough to give Clemson a fight IFF they get a number of random breaks (if they play in the CG).

UNC will give up a lot of points though, I suspect.  Where did ELA have them ranked?

Wasn't it just two years ago that UNC scored very late and went for a 2-point conversion rather than for the tie and OT?

Nope.  Last year.  21-20.

Lol. Clemson is going to beat the living shit out of UNC.

I'm with @Mdot21 on this.  UNC, even if they manage to make it to the ACCCG simply does not have the overall talent to stand anything close to toe-to-toe with the Tigers.  The only team in the ACC that *MIGHT* is the Seminoles.  

That isn't to say it is impossible for UNC to beat Clemson.  Clemson lost in 2017 to a vastly inferior Syracuse team (Syracuse finished 4-8 while Clemson finished 12-2 and their other loss was to NC Bama).  Clemson also lost in 2016 to a vastly inferior Pitt team (Pitt finished 8-5 while Clemson finished 14-1 with a NC).  That said, if Clemson loses to UNC this year it will only be because Clemson didn't play very well in the ACCCG.  

If you are looking for potential Clemson losses I would rank them as:

• AT Notre Dame, Saturday, November 7:  The Irish are solid and the game is in South Bend.  
• AT Florida State, Saturday, October 10:  The Seminoles have a lot more talent than the fact that they haven't lost less than six games a year since 2016 would suggest.  If they put that talent together they could take down the Tigers.  
• ACCCG, Saturday, December 5:  The best of UVA/VaTech/Miami/Pitt/UNC/Dook/GaTech should be at least decent and could theoretically pull off the upset but it would definitely be an upset.  
• Random Brain-Fart game (See Syracuse in 2017, Pitt in 2016, and (almost) UNC last year.  

I think there are really only two plausible ways that Clemson could miss the CFP:

• If they lose at FSU and that keeps them out of the ACCCG, or
• If they lose the ACCCG.  

Neither seems all that likely to me.  I think you can basically pencil them in.  

[Cincydawg]

I think we can pencil in Ohio State with a lighter shade, and perhaps Oklahoma.

Clemson has to be the surest thing.  What if they go 12-1 with a loss at ND say 35-21 and ND ends up being 9-3?

[ELA]

Yeah, I'd give UNC a better shot in a regular season game, even at Clemson, than in the ACC title game on a neutral field.

[FearlessF]

I think we can pencil in Ohio State with a lighter shade, and perhaps Oklahoma.

Clemson has to be the surest thing.  What if they go 12-1 with a loss at ND say 35-21 and ND ends up being 9-3?

Ohio st. and OU play much better schedules.  Much more likely to slip up and lose a game or two

[bayareabadger]

I think we can pencil in Ohio State with a lighter shade, and perhaps Oklahoma.

Clemson has to be the surest thing.  What if they go 12-1 with a loss at ND say 35-21 and ND ends up being 9-3?

Clemson is weird because of that schedule. 

They've not been burned by it, as all their one-loss teams have been in years where the field it a little thinner. But if they end up with one weird loss plus there are four other 1- or no-loss teams, it could get interesting if the ACC hasn't yet rebounded. 

[FearlessF]

unfortunately, I think Clemson has built enough respect from their performance on the field in the CFP that the relative strength of the ACC and their schedule won't be an issue if they only lose one game

[Entropy]

https://footballscoop.com/news/florida-state-players-threaten-boycott-after-mike-norvell-statement/

fsu having issues...

[ELA]

https://footballscoop.com/news/florida-state-players-threaten-boycott-after-mike-norvell-statement/

fsu having issues...

Breaking: School that does War Chant not woke

[847badgerfan]

https://footballscoop.com/news/florida-state-players-threaten-boycott-after-mike-norvell-statement/

fsu having issues...

https://twitter.com/marvinwilson21/status/1268395525495193601



Dumpster fire.

[bayareabadger]

https://twitter.com/marvinwilson21/status/1268395525495193601



Dumpster fire.

I always wondered when a player would see some coach's fluff BS and say "Ehh, eff that guy."

Today is a day for that I guess.

[ELA]

I always wondered when a player would see some coach's fluff BS and say "Ehh, eff that guy."

Today is a day for that I guess.

Clemson's players did that a couple days ago

[FearlessF]

Coach Frost took some grief from his statement

wasn't bad, just wasn't good enough

[Mdot21]

Clemson's players did that a couple days ago

doesn't seem to impact Clemson's recruiting at all. Winning 'chips and playing in the playoffs trump all else. I'm sure they'll be a OK. I think most people just kind of expected racism at Clemson. Racism in South Carolina? No way! If you made a list of the most racist states in the US, they'd all be in the south.

You'd think Harbaugh's "wokeness" and being a huge vocal supporter of Kapernick, calling for massive NCAA reform, and marching with protesters would help him get more high profile 'croots. Turns out getting your dick kicked in by Ohio State every year matters far more.