2020 Michigan Offseason Thread

[bayareabadger]

Wow. That’s a huge indictment on Harbaugh. Gil Brandt is like the NFL Scout of NFL scouts. If he’s saying that Patterson looked like a high NFL draft pick after Brandt saw Patterson at a passing camp and then went to Michigan and fall off the face of the earth and regressed and that Brandt didn’t even have Patterson in his top 200 players. DAMN.

Patterson literally cost himself millions by transferring to Michigan.

This would be some embellishment.

Patterson was always wild. He was always an improviser who pulled plays out of his backside but also sprayed balls. It's good Brandt thought highly of him, but I kind of doubt if he went somewhere else he would've just been fixed. Maybe a wonderful coach like Paul Chryst could've bought him to heel, but there's a not insignificant chance he was just not that good to begin with.

Maybe Harbaugh didn't help, but he also didn't drive the kid into a ditch. 

(And this wouldn't be the first time NFL talent evaluators see a glimpse of someone in shorts and think they're the bees knees. Shit, the Manning academy flops are the stuff of legend)

[bayareabadger]

I don’t think he was injured. I think Harbaugh is just a hard guy to play QB for. Takes a certain personality to be able to stomach him. Takes a tough guy that’s always even keeled like Andrew Luck where nothing fazes him. Not sure Patterson has ever been that type of kid.

Harbaugh is a QB killer.

Josh Johnson, Alex Smith, Jake Rudock and Colin Kaepernick are all noted even-keeled tough guys. 

[MaximumSam]

He signed with the Giants

[MrNubbz]

I agree with BAB some of these guys look like can't miss man/childs.And of course the evaluators can't point out perhaps they missed the mark.Hell I did on John O'korn who played at M a few years back.In HS he won a state championship in Florida.He transferred to Michigan from U of Houston.He'd have highlight reel plays,then turn around and kill drives.Had a cannon and could take off an run like the wind.At critical times he wasn't nearly consistent enough.Ryan Mallet(not a JH guy) was another guy.Wilton Spreight another guy with size and an arm.I never bought into the QB whisperer stuff but JH did a good job with Kapernick in SF.Luck at Stanford was plug in and play.Alex Smith Urbz had him already putting up big numbers in Utah.We'll see what Patterson does on sundays

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

I agree with BAB some of these guys look like can't miss man/childs.And of course the evaluators can't point out perhaps they missed the mark.Hell I did on John O'korn who played at M a few years back.In HS he won a state championship in Florida.He transferred to Michigan from U of Houston.He'd have highlight reel plays,then turn around and kill drives.Had a cannon and could take off an run like the wind.At critical times he wasn't nearly consistent enough.Ryan Mallet(not a JH guy) was another guy.Wilton Spreight another guy with size and an arm.I never bought into the QB whisperer stuff but JH did a good job with Kapernick in SF.Luck at Stanford was plug in and play.Alex Smith Urbz had him already putting up big numbers in Utah.We'll see what Patterson does on sundays

How many Offensive coordinators did Patterson have to learn under in his college career?  I wonder if starting over from scratch 3-4 times had an effect.

[bayareabadger]

How many Offensive coordinators did Patterson have to learn under in his college career?  I wonder if starting over from scratch 3-4 times had an effect.

Four. 

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

Four.

Yikes.  Might prepare him for the NFL, though.  Learning a new playbook would be a snap I suppose.

[Cincydawg]

So, my general take on Harbaugh is he won't be fired any time soon short of for cause or a complete collapse.  If he can manage 9-4 and 10-3 seasons, he should stay as long as he wants, or for many years anyway.  And it is very possible they could break through in one year and win the conference.

[MrNubbz]

Yikes.  Might prepare him for the NFL, though.  Learning a new playbook would be a snap I suppose.

that's a good point,any coordinator would factor that in prolly.Were the shcemes overhauled or adjusted

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

that's a good point,any coordinator would factor that in prolly.Were the shcemes overhauled or adjusted

Well obviously it was a big change from Ole Miss to UM, and then he went from a pro style to read-option.  I'd say at least 3 overhauls.

[Mdot21]

ESPN’s FPI predicts Michigan to win 7.4 games. 

Harbaugh’s seat gonna get white hot I think if they really only win 7 and take another ass beating by Ohio State.

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

ESPN’s FPI predicts Michigan to win 7.4 games.

Harbaugh’s seat gonna get white hot I think if they really only win 7 and take another ass beating by Ohio State.

They have a super tough schedule, but I still think they get 9 wins.

[Cincydawg]

2020 Michigan Football Schedule
Date		Opponent	Time/TV	Tickets
Saturday Sep. 5		at Washington HuskiesHusky Stadium, Seattle, WA	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sep. 12		Ball State CardinalsMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sep. 19		Arkansas State Red WolvesMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sep. 26		Wisconsin BadgersMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 3		Penn State Nittany LionsMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 10		at Michigan State SpartansSpartan Stadium, East Lansing, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 17		at Minnesota Golden GophersTCF Bank Stadium, Minneapolis, MN	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 24		Purdue Boilermakers (HC)Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 31		OFF
Saturday Nov. 7		Maryland TerrapinsMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 14		at Rutgers Scarlet KnightsSHI Stadium, Piscataway, NJ	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 21		Indiana HoosiersMichigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 28		at Ohio State BuckeyesOhio Stadium, Columbus, OH	Time TBA ETTV TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Dec. 5		Big Ten ChampionshipLucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN	Time TBA ETTV TBA

I see five plausible losses there.  If they start 2-4 ....

[Mdot21]

They have a super tough schedule, but I still think they get 9 wins.

I think the real unknown for me in regards to Michigan is the QB play. If McCaffrey is anything like his father or older brother in terms of the winning intangibles and football IQ- he could wind up being a massive upgrade over Shea Patterson. And if he is, it will really beg the question why the hell wasn't he getting an opportunity to start last year. McCaffrey just hasn't had any real opportunity to really play. There is just no way to gauge it. Complete question mark. The OL is the 2nd biggest ? mark after losing 4 starters to the NFL draft. They'll have a really good tackle duo in Ryan Hayes and Jalen Mayfield- the best they've ever had under Harbaugh yet- but filling in G-C-G is going to be tough. Ceasr Ruiz coming back for his senior year would've helped out there A LOT.

Michigan will still have a pretty good defense next year. Aidan Hutchinson and Kwity Paye is as good a DE duo as there is in the B1G conference. Both those dudes are future NFL draft picks. The biggest weakness they have on defense is the same one they had last year- DT. They need the DT's to develop. And fast. 5* true frosh Chris Hinton played OK for a freshman. But they needed more than OK last year, and that is just a stupidly hard position to play at a high level as a true frosh. DT takes a couple years of development typically. DT is by far their biggest question mark. They have to replace Josh Uche's situational pass rushing at OLB and Khaleke Hill at the Viper position, but they have a very good LB duo coming back in Josh Ross and Cam McGrone. Ross was hurt most of last year and McGrone became the breakout star of the defense in his first year as a starter. In the secondary they lost LaVert Hill at CB and Josh Metellus at safety, but Ambry Thomas will fill in just fine as the #1 CB and really he was better than Hill last year. Vincent Gray had an excellent RS Frosh season last year and at 6'2+ he has the size and length that LaVert Hill really lacked. And then at safety they will be replacing Metellus with Dax Hill. Dax Hill will go down as the best safety to play at Michigan in at least 30 years. And really he should've started last year imo. He was the best safety on that team as a true frosh imo.