2020 Michigan Offseason Thread

[bayareabadger]

They were starting a RS freshman at right tackle all season in Mayfield, and another RS freshman for 3 games at LT in Ryan Hayes. Their #1 RB Charbonnet was a true freshman that was dealing with injuries all-season, missed most of spring and fall and was playing hurt most of the season. So inexperience/youth was at play at both tackle spots and inexperience/injuries at RB. Charbonnet still set freshman rushing TD record with 11. He is going to become the best back that Michigan has had since Chris Perry imo. He’s got real NFL potential.

LG Bredeson and C Ruiz were extremely good on the interior and at run blocking. Oddly enough seeing as he’s only 6’3” with short arms- LT Jon Runyan Jr was a better pass blocker than run blocker. RG Mike Onwenu could never keep his weight or conditioning in order his entire time at Michigan. Devastating run blocker when he got his hands on defender, but he consistently wore down in second half of games and during the season in his entire time at Michigan.

I guess that's enough to drag all those line numbers down to being so-so with four draft picks and a great OL coach. I dunno.

[bayareabadger]

If I know Gattis, I think Evans will get the majority of the snaps next year.  He places a high value on a RB that is a great pass catcher. 

I agree that Zach C wasn't ready for the load he got as a true freshman.  Ideally he would have played about half the snaps he did and then maybe he could have stayed healthy.  I will be curious to see if ZC makes a big jump this year.  He'll be healthy, sharing the load, and have a full year of a big time college weight room training behind him.

Sure, but ZC accounted for less than a third of the non-sack carries. And the point of those stats is to tease out some of the brilliance of a running back. 

Anyway, there's probably talent coming up, so we'll just have to see. 

[bayareabadger]

What will this look like? WHEN Michigan finally has a legitimate top tier offense and a QB that doesn’t suck ass and regress every single year- THEN we will know that Harbaugh has stopped meddling.

The dude needs to just stay the F out and go recruit. He was actually recruiting extremely well his first few years. His recruiting seems to have taken a major nose dive. Gee, wonder why.

OK, so this arrangement in essence means his meddling is meaningless to our understanding of what happens. 

The offense either gets better or worse. Behind the scenes meddling might be a factor, but if the OC just isn't that good, there could be no meddling and the offense won't be top tier. And if Harbs suddenly rediscovers his touch with QBs and scheming, well the offense could get better with him having a hand on it.

But the idea that his hand on the offense has an inverse impact in performance is more speculative than not and creates the illusion that Michigan's struggles don't come down to basic execution or the overrating of RPOs as a concept or players just not being all that good, but are in fact the result of a level of willful stubbornness. And that of course is an easy answer because it allows the satisfaction of simply being mad at someone for something they could easily fix. Whatever they do, the need to settle on a scheme they can install and execute and get a group of more than a few good players that are actually playing well. 

(I was looking back, when was the last top tier Michigan offense? Looking at SP+, they've not been top-10 as far back as the system goes. They were 11th and 12th in the last year of Rich Rod and the first with Hoke. Interestingly the 2018 offense was better than 2019 by some conventional measures and by FEI but a hair worse by SP+)

[Mdot21]

former Michigan WR Tarik Black transferring to Texas. I like that fit for him. Watch him be way more productive there than he ever was at Michigan. Sucks to see him go. He's super talented. Can't say I blame him for wanting to get the hell out.

[Mdot21]

If I know Gattis, I think Evans will get the majority of the snaps next year.  He places a high value on a RB that is a great pass catcher. 

I agree that Zach C wasn't ready for the load he got as a true freshman.  Ideally he would have played about half the snaps he did and then maybe he could have stayed healthy.  I will be curious to see if ZC makes a big jump this year.  He'll be healthy, sharing the load, and have a full year of a big time college weight room training behind him.

Chris Evans is a great fit for the "speed in space" style. I think ZC and Evans will make a great combo. Can't sleep on Hassan Haskins either. He had a really solid RS Frosh year and the dude is strong as an ox. He reminds me of a bigger, more athletic version of De'Veon Smith. Like Smith he doesn't have the top-end speed to go the distance, but he's more explosive initially and he thrives on contact just like Smith. I really like all 3 of them.

[MaximumSam]

How crazy is it that Shea Patterson was the only combine invitee to not get drafted or signed as a free agent?

[Mdot21]

How crazy is it that Shea Patterson was the only combine invitee to not get drafted or signed as a free agent?

Not that crazy. He's been Harbaugh'D.

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

How crazy is it that Shea Patterson was the only combine invitee to not get drafted or signed as a free agent?

There has to be more to this.  Was there some sort of kerfuffle at the senior bowl or something?

[Cincydawg]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2020/04/30/michigan-football-shea-patterson-nfl-draft-quarterback/3053501001/

[MrNubbz]

LMAO,I'd rather not toot my own horn he says.Somebody needs to tell him the question wasn't meant as a compliment.Seriously he behaves sometimes like he has CTE or is on some meds

[Mdot21]

LMAO,I'd rather not toot my own horn he says.Somebody needs to tell him the question wasn't meant as a compliment.Seriously he behaves sometimes like he has CTE or is on some meds

Dude is certifiable whack-job. I’ve been saying for years he probably has CTE and is on meds to stabilize his crazy ass.

[Mdot21]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2020/04/30/michigan-football-shea-patterson-nfl-draft-quarterback/3053501001/

Wow. That’s a huge indictment on Harbaugh. Gil Brandt is like the NFL Scout of NFL scouts. If he’s saying that Patterson looked like a high NFL draft pick after Brandt saw Patterson at a passing camp and then went to Michigan and fall off the face of the earth and regressed and that Brandt didn’t even have Patterson in his top 200 players. DAMN. 

Patterson literally cost himself millions by transferring to Michigan. 

[Cincydawg]

Yup.  Maybe Patterson was injured ...

[Mdot21]

Yup.  Maybe Patterson was injured ...

I don’t think he was injured. I think Harbaugh is just a hard guy to play QB for. Takes a certain personality to be able to stomach him. Takes a tough guy that’s always even keeled like Andrew Luck where nothing fazes him. Not sure Patterson has ever been that type of kid. 

Harbaugh is a QB killer.