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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1834 on: August 01, 2019, 12:19:30 PM »
Wow, that was I think the first sports blog I ever read, I was still at MSU at the time, most well known for the Fulmer Cup for tracking schools on offseason legal incidents
Why do they call it that though?Did Fulmer had an inordinate amount of kids collared?More than Johnson @ Miami or Meyer @ FLA?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1835 on: August 01, 2019, 12:27:13 PM »
Why do they call it that though?Did Fulmer had an inordinate amount of kids collared?More than Johnson @ Miami or Meyer @ FLA?
According to reddit, apparently right around 2004-2005 Tennessee had a lot of arrests.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2vvh4b/why_was_it_named_the_fulmer_cup/

As with most things on the internet, it started for inauspicious reasons and now it's just a thing.

I suspect it's that Spencer started his blog in 2005 when these events were fresh in his mind. Being a Florida fan / alum himself, you know he won't call it the Meyer cup and throw shade at his own team. Jimmy Johnson was in the late 80's, likely before Spencer's time. And of course being a Gator fan, he'd gladly throw another SEC rival under the bus in UT. (Not that he wouldn't for Miami or FSU, but again Miami was before his time.)

Random chance that these events at UT occurred right at the time EDSBS opened its doors? I'm going with that explanation.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1836 on: August 01, 2019, 12:30:03 PM »
Ah,Thanx,so I was kinda right on Johnson/Meyer - had their share.Didn't Phil turn someone in at one time for violations?Damn after reading a couple more links.Tennessee had some violent fook's - hope they did some time.Partying and taking a handout are certainly wrong and frowned upon but cracking skulls is immediate expulsion offense.Specially after theyd been warned
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1837 on: August 01, 2019, 12:32:26 PM »
According to reddit, apparently right around 2004-2005 Tennessee had a lot of arrests.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2vvh4b/why_was_it_named_the_fulmer_cup/

As with most things on the internet, it started for inauspicious reasons and now it's just a thing.

I suspect it's that Spencer started his blog in 2005 when these events were fresh in his mind. Being a Florida fan / alum himself, you know he won't call it the Meyer cup and throw shade at his own team. Jimmy Johnson was in the late 80's, likely before Spencer's time. And of course being a Gator fan, he'd gladly throw another SEC rival under the bus in UT. (Not that he wouldn't for Miami or FSU, but again Miami was before his time.)

Random chance that these events at UT occurred right at the time EDSBS opened its doors? I'm going with that explanation.

Pretty sure that's exactly how it went down.  Timing is everything. :)

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1839 on: August 02, 2019, 03:00:49 PM »
Sometimes being a perfectionist is a real PITA...

Last year, I replaced the main speakers in my Jeep and re-tuned the crossover value of the tweeters. It made significant improvement to the sound quality, but I wanted to improve it further, as well as get a head unit that has integrated Bluetooth as the 2009 factory radio does not--I currently use a Bluetooth->FM transmitter, which is not optimal. 

I was gifted a visa gift card for my birthday, and thought that's as good a reason as any to actually pull the trigger on a higher quality and more modern head unit. Nothing extravagant--the Jeep lives without a top, so I don't want something that screams "steal me", and given that it might be washed out by the sun a fair bit, didn't want a touchscreen anyway.

So I started researching. And researching. And researching. And realizing that if I want to do this "right", it's not a just a head unit. It's replacing the original amplifier as well. And then it spirals outward from there.

You see, the "premium" Infinity sound system in Jeeps is made to be "premium" but also as cheap as they can. It's an underpowered 8-channel amp / audio processor driving 2 ohm outputs, to 4 cabin speakers, 2 tweeters, and 2 outputs bridged to the subwoofer. The head unit (like most) is underpowered as well. 

One downside of relying on the factory amp is that it relies on electrical signals from the head unit to do fade control, so I lose fade control with an aftermarket head unit running through the factory amp. The second downside of the factory amp is that it has to be driven off the head unit speaker level outputs, so it's amplifying an amplified signal. Which is not the best way to do it. It's much better to drive the amp from line level pre-amp outputs so the amp gets the cleanest possible signal.

The replacement cabin speakers are 4 ohm speakers, so they're being woefully underdriven by the OEM amp. The factory sub is 2 ohm dual voice coil. I'm not sure if it's actually being run bridged parallel across two amp outputs to 0.5 ohm, bridged serially to 1 ohm, or whether each voice coil is being directly driven by 2 ohm. But 45Wx2 driven into an 8" sub is probably not ideal either. 

So if I want to actually complete a proper build, it will probably require the below:


  • Replace the factory head unit. 
  • Replace the OEM amp with an aftermarket 5-channel amp (75Wx4 @ 4 ohm mains, 300Wx1 @ 2 ohm sub). This will help since I can drive it from the replacement head unit pre-amp outputs rather than speaker outputs (better quality), and drive the mains to a decent power level at proper impedance. 
  • Drive the front speakers and the tweeters off the single front channel amp outputs, which then means I'll need passive crossovers between the two. I'm not going to drop the coin on an 8-channel amp just to drive the tweeters.
  • If I'm doing a full build, I might as well replace the factory tweeters anyway. They're not horrible, but the last thing I want to have is the weakest link of the entire system the bit that stares me in the face and plays the highs. 
  • If I'm doing a full build, that factory sub has got to go. I can find a good aftermarket with dual 4 ohm voice coils, which when run in parallel, will be able to use factory wiring and match the appropriate impedance of the new amp. 

So I wanted to buy a relatively modest head unit ($139 cost at Crutchfield, a little over $200 with all wiring accessories, tax, etc). A full build, however, is probably a $350 amp, another $100 subwoofer, probably $50-70 on tweeters, a bunch of wiring/crossovers/etc, and a day or two of the car being torn apart to figure out where/how to mount everything. 

And the problem is that once I buy the head unit, I'm essentially committing myself to the whole build. Long term I'm going to do the rest, because I can't leave it "not right" forever. Which means if I do it "halfway", I tear apart the entire dash to build it once, and then wait a year and tear it apart (along with the rest of the dash to get to the factory amp and wiring) again because I'll need to run the RCA pre-amp cables to the amp instead of stereo outputs to the rest of the car.

Issue is that if I do it "right" from the start, I'm not going to drop $800 right now. That's a ridiculous expense to talk myself into in order to use a $100 gift card. So it's either do it halfway now and halfway later, or do nothing now. 

So I just ordered the head unit. I'm going to do it halfway. I'm sure it'll be an improvement. But my inner perfectionist is angry at myself because I know that to get it "right" is a bigger job, and one that I don't want to put off right now because all my research tells me it's necessary if I want to unlock the full potential of the build. 

Am I alone in this? Or are some of you guys obsessive about these things like me such that it's painful to not go 100% when you know 100% is attainable?


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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1840 on: August 02, 2019, 03:08:56 PM »
So who's going to take up tracking the Fulmer Cup?  Always worth a chuckle...
I'm not sure, but I'd hope for it to be expanded to include in-season as well as out-of-season arrests. It was always a bummer to me how the Fulmer Cup excluded bad stuff between August and January.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1841 on: August 02, 2019, 03:09:34 PM »
I got tired just reading your post.

I'd write a check and make it all happen (but I wouldn't want to make it happen anymore - those days are over).
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1842 on: August 02, 2019, 03:17:50 PM »
The end of EDSBS...
Honestly, one of the best authors of prose I've encountered. That was a treat. Shame it's the last named EDSBS.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1843 on: August 02, 2019, 03:35:32 PM »
Honestly, one of the best authors of prose I've encountered. That was a treat. Shame it's the last named EDSBS.
Yeah, sorry to see it go. It was one of those blogs where most posts were sophomoric, which of course has its own allure to CFB fans. But then when Spencer really wanted to write, he could knock it out of the park. He could pull an emotion out of you--an actual physical feeling of the memories of life or CFB--with his words. He's talented. I hope his new role allow him to continue that. 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1844 on: August 02, 2019, 03:38:47 PM »
I got tired just reading your post.
I sometimes get a little long-winded, I know.

There are days I wished I had a writing outlet available like my old blog(s). The problem is that blogging is mostly dead. The only way to really get people to read it is to post often enough, on a particular topic, that you build a readership of people interested in that topic. Whereas I want to write, when I feel like it, about whatever I want. It's not exactly enough critical mass to build readership.

So I throw it on you poor fools. 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1845 on: August 02, 2019, 06:46:08 PM »
Actually there's some pretty rich fools here too though I'm not one of them.What was the name of your Blog? The facist bastard,seething slouch or sumsuch 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1846 on: August 02, 2019, 07:35:16 PM »
Books by Bernard Cornwell are really good.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1847 on: August 02, 2019, 07:43:57 PM »
Just watched some old Dick Cavett interviews with Orson Welles(that I stumbled upon) - interesting Guy.His granddad was Gideon Welles who was Lincoln's Secretary of the Navy and was with Lincoln when he died.Scratch that it was an urban legend prompted by Welles himself but he did have an Uncle Gideon though spelled Wells.Going to watch more of these interesting none the less.But he was married to Rita Hayworth for 4 yrs - YOWZA
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