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CWSooner

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #196 on: March 31, 2019, 12:30:51 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 30, 2019, 06:29:42 PM
You can’t teach what he could do. Barry Sanders’ ability to stop and start and get to full speed from 0-60 and cut and juke and accelerate through cuts is virtually unparalleled. I’ve only seen two guys even a little bit close in LeSean McCoy and Saquon Barkley and even then those guys fall well short of Barry Sanders.
Joe Washington should be on that list somewhere.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #197 on: March 31, 2019, 01:44:50 PM »
I figure every non-230 lb RB's highlight tape has Sanders-esque plays in it.  If you remove all of the huge-hole runs that having nothing to do with what the RB did, they're all elusive, aren't they?  
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #198 on: March 31, 2019, 01:47:20 PM »
he got a few nice blocks

the late punt return looked a bit familiar to the famous one by the Jet
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #199 on: March 31, 2019, 01:49:52 PM »
Joe W reminded me of Gale Sayers the way he could stop & change directions
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #200 on: March 31, 2019, 01:50:00 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 31, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
I figure every non-230 lb RB's highlight tape has Sanders-esque plays in it.  If you remove all of the huge-hole runs that having nothing to do with what the RB did, they're all elusive, aren't they?  
some are MUCH more elusive than others
highlights of Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders are not comparable

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #201 on: March 31, 2019, 01:52:12 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 31, 2019, 01:47:20 PM
he got a few nice blocks

the late punt return looked a bit familiar to the famous one by the Jet
Johnny the Jet?  1971, Norman, OK?

Here's the longest-ever punt return for a 3-yard loss.

Washington did go on to have a decent NFL career.  I don't think he quite had the top-end speed that a small-ish guy needs in that league.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #202 on: March 31, 2019, 01:54:57 PM »
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #203 on: March 31, 2019, 02:57:52 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on March 31, 2019, 01:52:12 PM
Johnny the Jet?  1971, Norman, OK?

Here's the longest-ever punt return for a 3-yard loss.

Washington did go on to have a decent NFL career.  I don't think he quite had the top-end speed that a small-ish guy needs in that league.

after ripping his knees up - no
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #204 on: March 31, 2019, 04:50:23 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 30, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
Barry was great at stoping/starting but this was magnified on artificial turf.When the Browns had Eric Metcalf he made 5 guys miss him - on turf.Sanders was special no doubt but the guys mentioned are all equal in there own ways.Knock on Sanders is he was actually a shade under 5'8".Class act all the way.He could have easily made 1-2 thousand yards more
this is actually a myth. Sanders' numbers were virtually the same on grass.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #205 on: March 31, 2019, 05:02:25 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 31, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
some are MUCH more elusive than others
highlights of Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders are not comparable
Emmitt was more slithery I feel like. He was great at hiding behind his big OL's and just bounced off defenders. It was often like he was covered in grease and the defenders would get to him but just couldn't bring him down. Emmitt was an all-time great RB who really doesn't get the credit he deserves imo. He just happened to play in the same era as Barry Sanders.
Barry was just insanity. Can't even describe it. His ability to stop and start and juke people out of their jock straps was ridiculous. He could make all-pro HOF type defenders just look stupid. They would go to tackle him and wouldn't even touch him. Just grasp at air. I've never seen anything like that. He did that to everyone. Rod Woodson, Jon Lynch, Warren Sapp, John Randle, Reggie White- he gave them all the business. And these are some of the greatest of greats. Still never forget the move he put on Rod Woodson. Woodson was one on one with Barry in the open field, went to tackle him and grasped at nothing but air and tore his ACL. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #206 on: March 31, 2019, 06:36:16 PM »
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #207 on: March 31, 2019, 06:45:27 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 31, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
some are MUCH more elusive than others
highlights of Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders are not comparable


Why would they be?  If Emmitt ran like Barry in that offense, he'd be benched.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #208 on: March 31, 2019, 06:49:03 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 31, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
Emmitt was more slithery I feel like. He was great at hiding behind his big OL's and just bounced off defenders. It was often like he was covered in grease and the defenders would get to him but just couldn't bring him down. Emmitt was an all-time great RB who really doesn't get the credit he deserves imo. 
I was thinking about Emmitt and how difficult it must've been to give him ratings in a video game like Madden.  Not a 99 in speed or breaking tackles or agility or whatever, but how do you rate things that Smith did have?  Vision was probably his biggest asset, but also juking - not like Sanders did, but earlier in the run and more minor.  
If they were driving cars, Emmitt would be like making a minor correction with the steering wheel a second before a potential crash and Sanders would be a massiver jerk on the wheel a half-second before the crash.  Sanders' was more noticeable, but both avoided the accident.  No one seemed to get a clear shot on Emmitt...and he was willing to get the 3 yards instead of dancing around.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #209 on: March 31, 2019, 07:30:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 31, 2019, 06:45:27 PM
Why would they be?  If Emmitt ran like Barry in that offense, he'd be benched.
if Barry ran behind that line in that offense his numbers would have been outrageous
Emmett was a very good back that had a great line and offense
Barry was one of the all-time greats - no comparision
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