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MrNubbz

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #112 on: March 15, 2019, 01:59:08 PM »
You're kidding right Reverend?
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #113 on: March 15, 2019, 03:28:34 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 15, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
You're kidding right Reverend?
Not in the least bit. As the architect of the plan to turn the Browns around I am a big Sashi, DePodesta Supportor. No Doubt Sashi had player evaluation issues, but his plan was correct and Dorsey has built brilliantly upon it. The major problem with his plan was the coach that Haslam hired despite most of the front office opposed to it. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #114 on: March 15, 2019, 04:01:24 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 14, 2019, 08:14:59 PM
Here's the thing - there are other players in their class, but since they didn't pan out and don't have the name recognition, we don't cite them.  (Jeff George, Leftwich, Russell, Ryan Leaf).  Leaf vs Manning was only a thing because while Manning had intangibles, Leaf had the rocket arm.  Looking back, it was a silly debate, but because of Manning's decision-making and accuracy, not his superior arm strength.
I was talking about the best arm of the great QBs. I probably should’ve been more specific there.
There have been loads of mediocre or terrible QBs with huge arms. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #115 on: March 15, 2019, 04:06:15 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 14, 2019, 08:21:43 PM
That's a small sample size.  Same for Murray.  Good reason to be wary.
Haskins' season rates between the best seasons by Bryce Petty (Baylor) and Colt McCoy (Texas).  How are they doing in the NFL?
I don’t really look at stats alone. You have to look at physical traits and how they piled those stats up (system, competition level, coaching, surrounding talent) as well when projecting for the NFL.
Kyler Murray has more in common physically with those guys you mentioned than Dwayne Haskins. 
Haskins has the physical stature & size/arm strength those others lack.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2019, 04:06:56 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 15, 2019, 01:27:29 PM
I'm glad in your enchanted kingdom you understood it.Because it still red the same shitty way.DePodesta has been part of the problem not the solution
No idea why you're getting pissy.  The Browns were a dumpster fire, hired a smart guy to help out, and now matter.  Chin up.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #117 on: March 15, 2019, 05:02:52 PM »
Quote from: Riffraft on March 15, 2019, 03:28:34 PM
Not in the least bit. As the architect of the plan to turn the Browns around I am a big Sashi, DePodesta Supportor. No Doubt Sashi had player evaluation issues, but his plan was correct and Dorsey has built brilliantly upon it. The major problem with his plan was the coach that Haslam hired despite most of the front office opposed to it.
OK if going 1-31 over two seasons works for you,great ,tis better to give than receive.In 2016 the drafted 4 wr's and a TE with holes all over the roster.Depodesta was part of that.Dorsey immediately righted the ship after sashi brown oversaw probably the worst drafts/teams since Matt Millen in Detroit.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2019, 05:14:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 15, 2019, 04:06:56 PM
No idea why you're getting pissy.  The Browns were a dumpster fire, hired a smart guy to help out, and now matter.  Chin up.
Not getting pissy just pointing out an inaccuracy - In spite of DePodesta and Sashi best efforts John Dorsey is righting the ship.In 14 months he got a 1-31 team to one game under .500 then just acquired one of the top 3 WR in football in trade.And acquired free agent Pro Bowl DT Sheldon Richardson - 28 yrs old.And now Vegas has the Browns rated as the 3rd highest AFC to make the Big Dance.I hope they are right,it has been a long row to hoe
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #119 on: March 15, 2019, 05:28:36 PM »
You have a really short-sighted scope of things...any fixing the Browns' franchise needed would obviously be a multi-year job.  You cite 2018's improvement to a guy that had been there for one year and saddled the losing of 2017 to a guy who has been there 2 years.  That's childish.  You should know better.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2019, 05:48:26 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 15, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
You have a really short-sighted scope of things...any fixing the Browns' franchise needed would obviously be a multi-year job.  You cite 2018's improvement to a guy that had been there for one year and saddled the losing of 2017 to a guy who has been there 2 years.  That's childish.  You should know better.
You should go on Browns' fan sites there divide between Sashi was an idiot and Sashi put the plan in place that lead to this is great. Personally I don't see how anybody can't see it, but as you can see there are those. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2019, 05:49:42 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 15, 2019, 05:02:52 PM
OK if going 1-31 over two seasons works for you,great ,tis better to give than receive.In 2016 the drafted 4 wr's and a TE with holes all over the roster.Depodesta was part of that.Dorsey immediately righted the ship after sashi brown oversaw probably the worst drafts/teams since Matt Millen in Detroit.
they went 1-31 because of the coach more than anything else. There was no reason to go 0-16 except for the ineptness of Hue
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #122 on: March 15, 2019, 06:01:54 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 15, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
You have a really short-sighted scope of things...any fixing the Browns' franchise needed would obviously be a multi-year job.  You cite 2018's improvement to a guy that had been there for one year and saddled the losing of 2017 to a guy who has been there 2 years.  That's childish.  You should know better.
When you're in a hole quit digging.AGAIN 1-31,better be thought stupid than to open up ones mouth and remove all doubt.You obviously can't grasp what you write of an organization you know nothing about.Two guys getting paid millions of dollars who supposedly graduated form Harvard drafting 4 wr's and a TE with holes all over the roster.Think there are two guys left from that draft 3 seasons ago.Dorsey still had to go out and get two WR's Beckham and Jarvis Landry who had 3 straight pro bowl seasons and a Franchise tag.Dorsey gave the Dolphins a 4th & 7th round picks,that's a steal.He's 28 and had 976 yds his 1st season in Cleveland.These are moves that the previous ebola chimps could have but did not make
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #123 on: March 15, 2019, 06:06:55 PM »
Sorry RR read above ,Hue wasn't any good but the front office has been pathetic.Vince Lombardi couldn't do crap with the talent given.I listen to the Talk shows everyday.The fans wanted to go after sashi and paul like the townspeople did frankenstein's monster.Again look who Dorsey had to sign because of the polluted rube's 1-31,really think about it
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2019, 07:09:25 PM »
LOL, you're comically subjective about this.  I didn't insult your kid, I'm just saying a massive rebuild isn't accomplished in a year.  Blaming a guy there 2 years and blowing a guy there one year is just odd.  
Maybe acknowledge your obvious emotional subjectivity and chill?
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2019, 07:37:59 PM »
Break your prozac in half,I was talking about your belching about the Browns.Do you get online to pick fights with people just to have someone to talk to?
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