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Topic: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1596 on: March 03, 2020, 09:25:48 PM »
Last year AT Michigan State.

I'll look again. Maybe it was the year before AT Michigan State.
Yeah, they only played once last year.  Look at the play by play, all 3 are in the play log in the final minute.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1597 on: March 03, 2020, 09:38:36 PM »
Yeah, they only played once last year.  Look at the play by play, all 3 are in the play log in the final minute.
Year before then. I don't remember going irate over Stix being benched, so he must not have been there. 

The 2 best players sat with, I believe, more than 2 minutes and only down a dozen, if I'm not mistaken. 

I have all the games in TS format, so I can go back, but the point remains.

 He's a quitter, a loser, and his teams get worse as the year goes on, as lesser talented teams get better, because good coaches teach blocking out, rebounding, angles, backboard usage, and all other simple fundamentals. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1598 on: March 03, 2020, 09:46:05 PM »
Year before then. I don't remember going irate over Stix being benched, so he must not have been there.

The 2 best players sat with, I believe, more than 2 minutes and only down a dozen, if I'm not mistaken.

I have all the games in TS format, so I can go back, but the point remains.

 He's a quitter, a loser, and his teams get worse as the year goes on, as lesser talented teams get better, because good coaches teach blocking out, rebounding, angles, backboard usage, and all other simple fundamentals.
The year before, MSU won by 30 at home.  Fernando had a rebound with with 1:05 to go, down 30; and Cowan shot FTs with 1:40 to play, down 32.

Again, I agree he's an awful game coach.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1599 on: March 03, 2020, 09:48:50 PM »
The year before, MSU won by 30 at home.  Fernando had a rebound with with 1:05 to go, down 30; and Cowan shot FTs with 1:40 to play, down 32.

Again, I agree he's an awful game coach.
Now I'm definitely going to look for it. 

I'm up in 5 hours, so off to bed, but I'll find out. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1600 on: March 03, 2020, 09:55:31 PM »
Fran late season collapse.  Right on schedule

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1601 on: March 03, 2020, 10:06:01 PM »
I’ll be honest, I expected RAC officiating to send this a different way.

Anyway, Maryland’s fiery hatred of their coach is interesting. Also, my Alma Mater is going to almost assuredly control its conference title chances on the last game of the season and that is wild.
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« Reply #1602 on: March 03, 2020, 10:28:12 PM »
Certainly interesting.  Their resume looks good, but I saw someone on Twitter say no team has ever gotten an at large bid with fewer than 3 road/neutral wins.  As you said, Rutgers has 1.
Yeah, kind of the nature of things in the Big Ten.  Ohio State has some OOC success, but in conference the only road wins are Northwestern, Nebraska, and a last minute win over Michigan.

This Big Ten may break some long standing tournament at large stats.  Purdue with potentially 16 losses was also mentioned.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1603 on: March 03, 2020, 10:59:22 PM »
I’ll be honest, I expected RAC officiating to send this a different way.

Anyway, Maryland’s fiery hatred of their coach is interesting. Also, my Alma Motter is going to almost assuredly control its conference title chances on the last game of the season and that is wild.
Having this many teams in it going into the final weekend is awesome.  It's been 20 years, but still being late on the scene, and never existing in a time when it was auto-bid or bust, the BTT has never felt as big as the other conference tourneys, so do have several years in a row now with some intrigue over the real title come down to the final weekend is awesome.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1604 on: March 03, 2020, 11:48:39 PM »
Having this many teams in it going into the final weekend is awesome.  It's been 20 years, but still being late on the scene, and never existing in a time when it was auto-bid or bust, the BTT has never felt as big as the other conference tourneys, so do have several years in a row now with some intrigue over the real title come down to the final weekend is awesome.
So when you look at the standings, it's honestly not going to be that many unless Illinois can win at OSU.

Assuming UW wins, those four are the only ones left. If OSU wins, Illinois' only hope is a win and three losses (not super likely). So you're basically just gonna end up with some combo of the three. MSU holds the tiebreaker over UW because in these scenarios, it's either Maryland and and Illinois or Iowa tied for third. UW holds the tiebreaker against Maryland and in the event of a three way tie. If it's four-way, it goes Michigan State-Maryland-Wisconsin-Illinois (I think)

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1605 on: March 04, 2020, 03:21:25 AM »
I’ll be honest, I expected RAC officiating to send this a different way.

Anyway, Maryland’s fiery hatred of their coach is interesting. Also, my Alma Mater is going to almost assuredly control its conference title chances on the last game of the season and that is wild.



^ For your first sentence ^

I've been wanting to get rid of Turgeon for years. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1606 on: March 04, 2020, 06:51:25 AM »
I’ll be honest, I expected RAC officiating to send this a different way.

Anyway, Maryland’s fiery hatred of their coach is interesting. Also, my Alma Mater is going to almost assuredly control its conference title chances on the last game of the season and that is wild.
No kidding.

A little more than a month ago I gave them no shot at finishing top-4, because of all the turmoil.

Credit to the kids and the coaches for all of this.

And.. Where are all the "FIRE GARD!" assclowns hiding out now?
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1607 on: March 04, 2020, 07:53:26 AM »


^ For your first sentence ^

I've been wanting to get rid of Turgeon for years.

My friend, we've talked about the officials in strong terms after most Maryland games, to the point of you declaring the conference to be rigged. I wasn't on here during the game, but I know Rutgers has had some wild home/road splits and they often play physical as hell. Thus, I figured that would be a factor and it would be a central point in the discussion. 

Was pleasantly surprised it was not. 

Anyway, I know you and many other Maryland fans are in that boat. He's pretty consistently fielded pretty good teams the past six years, but no great ones, and this one certianly slipped from having a case for that.

It's interesting how his teams are simultaneously bad in your view but still win a solid number of games, how they get worse as the season goes on in your read, but almost always win two thirds or better of their conference games. I'd assume the logic would be this team is too good to be this just good. (For reference, they're ranked because they have the 8th-best record among Power 5 teams, and that gets you ranked)

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1608 on: March 04, 2020, 08:49:25 AM »
Fran late season collapse.  Right on schedule
Eh, I don't follow basketball very closely, but that seems like a lazy narrative.

Prior to last night, when is the last time the lost a game they were projected to win? At Nebraska in early January? Paging @medinabuckeye1 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1609 on: March 04, 2020, 09:21:12 AM »
And.. Where are all the "FIRE GARD!" assclowns hiding out now?
Until December I don't think he had done much to warrant anyone questioning the direction of the program to be considered an assclown, I would call them fans concerned about long-term success.

I want to believe in Gard, but until the second half of this season if I knew a guy like John Beilein were available, I'd want to know if he was interested.

Certainly you won't move on from him now, but I don't want to overreact with recency bias either.

 

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