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Topic: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1330 on: February 12, 2020, 07:55:28 PM »
Nebraska is one of the schools that has reportedly shown interest in former Wisconsin guard Kobe King, who departed from the Badgers in late January after a situation that ultimately led to a strength coach leaving his job.

According to Mark Miller, who writes for WisSports.Net and is tied into King from his high school days, other schools besides the Huskers to reach out to King include Iowa State, Xavier and Northern Iowa.

That isn't why he left. It's what he's using to be eligible next season.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1331 on: February 12, 2020, 08:03:43 PM »
well, it doesn't state it's the reason

just states the timeline

but, it's obviously misleading
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1332 on: February 12, 2020, 08:27:51 PM »
Nebraska is one of the schools that has reportedly shown interest in former Wisconsin guard Kobe King, who departed from the Badgers in late January after a situation that ultimately led to a strength coach leaving his job.

According to Mark Miller, who writes for WisSports.Net and is tied into King from his high school days, other schools besides the Huskers to reach out to King include Iowa State, Xavier and Northern Iowa.

Hoiberg has been portalling since before the portal.  I'm curious as to see whether this makes it easier for him, or harder, because more schools are willing to look to transfers now.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1333 on: February 12, 2020, 08:50:41 PM »
should be easier

doesn't have to worry about bending rules and getting caught

his experience should have him ahead of the game for a few more seasons

I hope....
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1334 on: February 12, 2020, 09:58:23 PM »
 
I remember way back when PSU joined.  One of my friends in HS was a big PSU fan.  He told me repeatedly how PSU was going to dominate the "old" Big Ten in football.  Their first year they lost two games:
  • 21-13 at home to Michigan, and
  • 24-6 in Columbus. 
I was at the game in Columbus and a few weeks later I was home for Thanksgiving and I saw my friend.  I told him I enjoyed seeing JoPa in the flesh (as a CFB fan, I did) and then I said "losses to Michigan and Ohio State, welcome to the Big Ten!" 
  ;)
That was an enjoyable post.  Speaking of a rude football awakening when joining the B1G -- I knew Maryland would struggle, but I had no idea how tough this league was.  Even the so-called bad teams can throw waves and waves of solid players at their opponents.  The ACC wasn't like that.  They had some talented teams, but once you got past the 1-2 deep it wasn't very impressive.  Maryland was always like that as well, in my opinion, even in their successful years.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1335 on: February 13, 2020, 12:30:14 AM »
The first eight minutes was a shitshow, and then Michigan took care of business for most of the rest of the way, though they lost some of the big lead in the second half before re-extending it. Overall it was an encouraging game, though. I have no idea why they played Nunez in the first half (even considering Simpson's two 1st half fouls) but fortunately it didn't matter..... The most disappointing part is that they played Bajema, which shows that he's not going to get a redshirt, and honestly might be better off transferring somewhere next year. I hate to say it, but given that Nunez still played before him that's a bad sign.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1336 on: February 14, 2020, 11:42:10 AM »
The NCAA tourney predictions are interesting.  The Athletic right now has 11 B1G teams in with Minny being the last one out.  All four 8 seeds are B1G teams. Leading to some pretty interesting matchups potentially in the second round.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1337 on: February 14, 2020, 12:29:05 PM »
Tier update:
Here is what I have right now:

  • Maryland (-1, +1)
  • Penn State+2 (+3, -1), Wisconsin+1 (+2, -1), Michigan State+1 (+2, -1), Illinois+1 (+3, -2)
  • Iowa (+1, -1), Rutgers (no upsets), Minnesota (+1, -1), Indiana-1 , Ohio State-1 (+1, -2), Purdue-2 (+1, -3), Michigan-3
  • blank
  • Nebraska+2, Northwestern (no upsets)
The upsets so far have been:


Teams not within +/-1:
+2 Penn State:
The difference between tier-2 and tier-1 is the projected result in road games against tier-3 teams.  For PSU those are:
  • @M, won
  • @PU, won
  • @tOSU, lost
  • @RU, lost
  • @MN, lost
  • @IU, 2/23
  • @IA, 2/29
They are 2-3 with two more to play.  They also have two other upsets that would be upsets either way:
  • A home loss to Wisconsin
  • A road win over Michigan State
I don't think we should move them up yet, but they should be considered close to moving up because they seem to be improving.  Here is the timing of the seven games that could be considered upsets for PSU:


  • 12/7 lost at Ohio State
  • 1/7 lost at Rutgers
  • 1/11 lost at home to Wisconsin
  • 1/15 lost at Minnesota
  • 1/22 won at Michigan
  • 2/4 won at Michigan State
  • 2/11 won at Purdue




+2 Nebraska:  
The difference between tier-5 and tier-4 is the projected result in home games against tier-3 teams.  For UNL those are:
  • vMN, not played
  • vIA, won
  • vPU, won
  • vRU, lost
  • vIU, lost
  • vM, lost
  • vtOSU, 2/27

They are 2-3 with one more to play.  I think they need to stay where they are and we should chalk up their positive upsets simply to the fact that their underlying projection is so abysmal (1-19) that they have LOTS of chances for positive variance.  

-3 Michigan:
The difference between tier-3 and tier-4 is the projected result in home games against tier-2 and road games against tier-5.  For M those are:
  • @NU, won
  • @UNL, won
  • vMSU, won
  • vPSU, lost
  • vIL, lost
  • vUW, 2/27

They are 3-2 with one more to play.  

-2 Purdue:
The difference between tier-3 and tier-4 is the projected result in home games against tier-2 and road games against tier-5.  For PU those are:
  • @NU, won
  • vMSU, won
  • vUW, won
  • vIL, lost
  • vPSU, lost
  • @UNL, lost

They are 3-3.  They should stay where they are because their other upset was a road win at Indiana so if we moved them down they would be +4 rather than -2.  

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1338 on: February 14, 2020, 12:50:20 PM »
Based on the tiers and upsets as outlined above, the updated projected final standings/BTT seeds are:

  • 16-4/26-5 Maryland
  • 14-6/24-7 Penn State
  • 13-7/21-10 Michigan State
  • 12-8/20-11 Illinois
  • 12-8/19-12 Wisconsin
  • 11-9/20-11 Iowa
  • 10-10/19-12 Rutgers
  • 10-10/20-11 Ohio State
  • 10-10/16-14 Minnesota
  • 10-10/17-14 Purdue
  • 9-11/18-13 Michigan
  • 9-11/19-12 Indiana
  • 3-17/8-23 Nebraska
  • 1-19/6-24 Northwestern

The tiebreakers are:
For the two-way tie at 12-8 for 4th/5th:
  • The first tiebreaker is H2H and the teams only play once this year.  Illinois won in Madison.  


For the four-way tie at 10-10 for 7th-10th:
  • The first tiebreaker is H2H2H2H but they are all projected to go 2-2 against each other.  
  • The second tiebreaker is record against Maryland but all four are projected to go 0-season against the Terps.  
  • The third tiebreaker is record against Penn State.  Purdue (0-1) loses on this tiebreaker while the other three move on.  
  • The fourth tiebreaker is record against Michigan State.  Minnesota loses on this while tOSU and RU move on.  
  • The fifth tiebreaker is record against UW and IL.  Rutgers (projected 2-2) wins on this over Ohio State (projected 1-2)


For the two-way tie at 9-11 for 11th/12th:
  • The first tiebreaker is H2H.  The teams only play once this year, in Ann Arbor, and Michigan is projected to win.  


Thus, the projected BTT match-ups in Indianapolis are:
Wednesday, March 11, 2020:
  • #11 Michigan vs #14 Northwestern, 930pm, BTN
  • #12 Indiana vs #13 Nebraska, 6pm, BTN
Thursday, March 12, 2020:
  • #5 Wisconsin vs IU/UNL, 230pm, BTN
  • #6 Iowa vs M/NU, 9pm, BTN
  • #7 Rutgers vs #10 Purdue, 630pm, BTN
  • #8 Ohio State vs #9 Minnesota, noon, BTN
Friday, March 13, 2020:
  • #1 Maryland vs tOSU/MN, noon, BTN
  • #2 Penn State vs RU/PU, 630pm, BTN
  • #3 Michigan State vs IA/M/NU, 9pm, BTN
  • #4 Illinois vs UW/IU/UNL, 230pm, BTN
Saturday, March 14, 2020:
  • UMD/tOSU/MN vs IL/UW/IU/UNL, 1pm, CBS
  • PSU/RU/PU vs MSU/IA/M/NU, 330pm, CBS
Sunday, March 15, 2020:
  • UMD/tOSU/MN/IL/UW/IU/UNL vs PSU/RU/PU/MSU/IA/M/NU, 330pm, CBS


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1339 on: February 15, 2020, 12:34:30 PM »
OSU's offense is either a wide open three or a turnover

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1340 on: February 15, 2020, 12:35:41 PM »
OSU's offense is either a wide open three or a turnover
Yeah offense is hit and miss.  The defense and rebounding has been much better.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1341 on: February 15, 2020, 12:46:43 PM »
With this team, any possession where they at least shoot I have to be happy.  Even a bad shot beats a turnover.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1342 on: February 15, 2020, 01:05:09 PM »
OSU's offense is either a wide open three or a turnover
Purdue's offense is sputtering. This isn't like @Illinois where Purdue ran their offense and just couldn't shoot. They're not moving the ball, not getting the ball into the paint, and just not getting open looks.

Better once Wesson had to sit with foul trouble, but the improvement was from terrible to merely mediocre. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1343 on: February 15, 2020, 01:34:13 PM »
Purdue can't find the balance between overhelping on defense to the point they foul in a doubleteam, and not helping at all allowing easy layups. 

 

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