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Topic: 2018 Coaching Changes thread

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #518 on: December 02, 2017, 03:19:15 PM »
Eh. He's obviously a good QB. At times he could really be a heckuva QB. I don't get the people that trash him. I don't get the people that praise him either though. He just is what he is. An above average, good QB. Hall of Fame should only be reserved for the absolute elite. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers. I'd even throw Phillip Rivers in there. He was in the same draft as Ben and Eli and if you're talking about just their abilities as individual players- Rivers was better than either of them, playing for a joke of an organization.
Yeah, for the longest time people were talking about "Well Peyton Manning hasn't won a Super Bowl." Well of course he didn't [until he did, of course]. He was playing for a garbage organization that couldn't surround him with the supporting cast to win a Super Bowl. 
Nobody could credibly speak ill of his talent, but he had that "no Super Bowl" hanging over his head. 
Eli is a good QB. I don't think he's a great QB. But he's good enough. Surround him with the right supporting cast, and he wins 2 rings. 
For coaches and National Championships? Obviously you have to be a good coach to put your team in a position to win one. But I think when you get to that level, the coaches who make it to the BCS or the playoff who don't win it aren't no-talent scrubs. Very few coaches make the college football playoff by fluke. Maybe the only one I can think of that reached that level might have been Brian Kelly. The year they went 12-0 by the skin of their teeth and then got demolished by Alabama was maybe more fluke than most. 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #520 on: December 02, 2017, 04:16:19 PM »
Congrats to the Huskers for getting Frost to come home.  Always liked the dude even if he did break my Sooner heart.  :88:

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #521 on: December 02, 2017, 04:16:52 PM »
Congrats Nebraska. You got you're guy and beat a number of other brand schools along the way.

IMO:

Other than the Texas A&M hire, getting Frost was the best successful coaching pursuit.

And other than the UCLA hire, Frost is the best candidate from the standpoint of a coaching fit.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #522 on: December 02, 2017, 04:24:05 PM »
Congrats Nebraska. You got you're guy and beat a number of other brand schools along the way.

IMO:

Other than the Texas A&M hire, getting Frost was the best successful coaching pursuit.

And other than the UCLA hire, Frost is the best candidate from the standpoint of a coaching fit.
I would call the Frost Hire the best in both categories.  
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #523 on: December 02, 2017, 04:58:43 PM »
If Taggart leaves Oregon would be wise just to promote Leavitt to HC. His past crime at USF is old news now, and dude knows how to coach defense unquestionably. Just find a solid OC and Oregon won't miss a step.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #524 on: December 02, 2017, 05:00:51 PM »
That said if Edwards somehow convinces Leavitt to come be our DC that would go a LOOONG way to winning me over. Not gonna happen though.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #525 on: December 02, 2017, 05:09:37 PM »
Oregon will be kinda screwed if Taggart jumps to FSU. I don't know who they hire.

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« Reply #526 on: December 02, 2017, 05:23:52 PM »
Oregon will be kinda screwed if Taggart jumps to FSU. I don't know who they hire.
What if Gus goes home to Arkansas? What the hell would Auburn do?
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #527 on: December 02, 2017, 05:31:20 PM »
What if Gus goes home to Arkansas? What the hell would Auburn do?
he'd be kinda crazy to leave Auburn for Arkansas.

But BERT left Wisconsin for Arkansas, so hey you never know.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #528 on: December 02, 2017, 05:45:56 PM »
I'm just a northerner so I don't understand this whole SEC politics thing. Can someone explain to me why just because an idiot like Jimmy Haslam trickle downed a few bucks to the athletic dept that he now runs the Tenneesee football program? The SEC has a 1 Billion dollar TV contract why do schools keep kissing the behinds of these idiots? 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #529 on: December 02, 2017, 05:47:41 PM »
Would Oregon dare hire Jim Leavitt?

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« Reply #530 on: December 02, 2017, 05:47:49 PM »
I'm just a northerner so I don't understand this whole SEC politics thing. Can someone explain to me why just because an idiot like Jimmy Haslam trickle downed a few bucks to the athletic dept that he now runs the Tenneesee football program? The SEC has a 1 Billion dollar TV contract why do schools keep kissing the behinds of these idiots?
I don't think it's an SEC thing.  UM hired a major donor who had nearly ruined the company he ran to he AD, and it went predictably horribly.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #531 on: December 02, 2017, 05:54:00 PM »
Congrats to the Huskers for getting Frost to come home.  Always liked the dude even if he did break my Sooner heart.  :88:
Yep.  Corngrats to the Huskers!
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