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ELA

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1120 on: January 27, 2019, 04:42:20 PM »

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1121 on: January 27, 2019, 04:54:59 PM »
Well, he'd know

https://twitter.com/kylebaustin/status/1089634075458129921?s=19
Yeah, it’s an interesting strategy. Basically, you dumped all this energy into a rally, any you think this could short circuit a counterpunch. 
I know if UW was in the Purdue role and they started fouling Happ, I’d get real antsy, 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1122 on: January 27, 2019, 04:57:22 PM »
Why is Winston even still in?
So this seemed like an interesting one to go back to. 
He played 39. MSU got back into the game, but didn’t win. He now has a week to recover. 
Is it worth it or no?

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1123 on: January 27, 2019, 05:12:45 PM »
Impressive run by MSU in second half.  Rebounding was the key to this win. Generally I think this game meant more to Purdue. Credit to McQuaid on his defense.  Purdue giving itself a shot at the title with this winning streak, still a long way to go. Credit to Eastern for hitting those free throws to seal the game. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1124 on: January 27, 2019, 05:27:29 PM »
So this seemed like an interesting one to go back to.
He played 39. MSU got back into the game, but didn’t win. He now has a week to recover.
Is it worth it or no?
Not sure how much the committee cares about such things, but cutting it from 23 to 4 at least should be significant.  My guess is the 6 days before their next game is the only reason Izzo allowed him to give that comeback a go

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1125 on: January 27, 2019, 05:29:07 PM »
Neither Iowa or Minnesota playing a lick of defense.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1126 on: January 27, 2019, 06:46:29 PM »
Maybe it hasn't been as much of a problem, but there's definitely a continuum (of being better in transition than half-court), and Iowa's defense probably isn't a good enough test of it. It's another reason why M-MSU will be fascinating, as those will be the games where MSU's transition will be hardest to keep up (as well as the hardest transition for Michigan to gunk up).
Thats an interesting idea but not one Im sure is right. I agree all things being equal when a team makes a basket UM would be set up best to stop them. Off misses though I have not seen anyone stop MSU from running. Both Iowa and Purdue best transition D was when they were scoring in the 1st half of those games. Once the MSU defense picked up thats fueled MSU best transition game.
In this way I think UM is in a worse position to stop the MSU transition game. The UM offense right now is simply middle of the road vs Purdue and Iowa who have the 2nd best offense in conference atm. I fully expect UM to be the best team at stopping MSU but I think MSU will get more chances to run vs of UM if their offense stays at this level. UM will be at another level though so it will be fun to see how it all shakes out
"The best defense is a great offense" really can hold a lot of weight vs MSU this year.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1127 on: January 27, 2019, 07:46:05 PM »
One way or the other, we'll see the idea tested. Michigan tends not to try for offensive rebounds. Whether a shot is good or not, 3 or 4 guys are racing the other way before it hits the rim. It's hyper conservative. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1128 on: January 27, 2019, 07:57:05 PM »
One way or the other, we'll see the idea tested. Michigan tends not to try for offensive rebounds. Whether a shot is good or not, 3 or 4 guys are racing the other way before it hits the rim. It's hyper conservative.
That's been how teams have played MSU for a solid decade+ now in conference.  It's why I think MSUs rebounding margin is still so good even in years they aren't an elite rebounding team.  I do think this is easily MSUs best half court offense since 2016 by a long shot.  And that 2016 may have been Izzo's best half court offense ever.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1129 on: January 27, 2019, 08:46:32 PM »
No doubt. But this is also Michigan's best defense in the same period, and the recent winning streak versus MSU has been partly built on winning in transition. It remains a strength v strength match-up in my mind.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1130 on: January 27, 2019, 10:30:18 PM »
I wasn't disagreeing, I was just saying that wasn't a novel approach.  It's been a large factor in MSUs defensive rebounding numbers

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1131 on: January 27, 2019, 10:42:02 PM »
Ah. And when I shared the observation, I wasn't claiming it was novel, either. Mostly meant to say that slowing the MSU transition is an important  place to start. Assuming it's something you have the personnel/structure to pull off.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1132 on: January 27, 2019, 11:18:50 PM »
I'm hopeful that Michigan will improve its shooting before the Michigan State games, but the team has to adjust to how well-scouted they are compared to non-con games.

One key advantage Michigan has from looking at the Barttorvik.com numbers is in turnovers at both ends. MSU is really bad at forcing them while Michigan is good at not committing them. Michigan is actually slightly above average at forcing them and MSU still commits an average amount at 18.7%.

To the other point, MSU's OR% is the same as the OR% allowed by Michigan at ~27%, but MSU's OR% and Michigan's DR% both rank 18th nationally with ther 12% discrepancy, so that will be key.

That site doesn't have Foul or FT rate numbers, but I know Michigan still ranks high in not committing fouls but is only average at drawing them, while MSU appears to still draw and commit a lot of fouls.

But to win, Michigan will have to shoot well and/or win the turnover margin significantly. Winston has had some of his worst games against Simpson, so I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, again.

This week is big for Michigan, though, with Ohio State and at Iowa.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1133 on: January 27, 2019, 11:38:37 PM »
The Simpson-Winston match-up will be enormous.

 

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