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Topic: #2 Penn State (4-1, 7-1) at #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-1) Post Game

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PSUinNC

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2017, 08:41:30 AM »
For the first time in maybe 20 years (1996 or so), I am actually confident in my Nits going into the Shoe.  One thing I am certain of is that this team will not be intimidated by the aura and hostilities that this venerable atmosphere presents.  

31-24 Penn State.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2017, 08:43:30 AM »
HAHA. No beatings Mr. Nubbz.
If I had to guess- it will be a super game and PSU pulls it out.   Barrett will not be a star, but against this, how many QBs would be: (from Eleven Warriors)


    -     Penn State sent extra rushers on 62% of first down plays versus Michigan.
  • Michigan quarterback John O'Korn was sacked at least once on every second half possession.
  • Eight of 11 Michigan possessions featured at least one Penn State TFL.
  • Penn State sits No. 1 nationally at 3.54 sacks per game.
  • The Nittany Lions rank No. 8 nationally with 8.15 TFL per game.
     

        Sometimes the better thing to do against that is actually to run the QB. Sometimes. But If the play calling does its job, which is to keep the defense honest, JT will be as OK as any QB would be against that.


I firmly believe PSU will try and rely solely on its front 4 to get pressure and maintain/contain Barrett (which may or may not work given OSU's talented OL).  I think they will force him to win the game with his arm.  They may run blitz, but I don't see Pry making a gameplan that sends 5-6 guys and lets JT just step up and make plays with his legs.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2017, 09:51:28 AM »
I firmly believe PSU will try and rely solely on its front 4 to get pressure and maintain/contain Barrett (which may or may not work given OSU's talented OL).  I think they will force him to win the game with his arm.  They may run blitz, but I don't see Pry making a gameplan that sends 5-6 guys and lets JT just step up and make plays with his legs.  
Probably true, and if true, a departure from their tendency. PSU defense has been predicated on winning first down by bringing pressure. They work to get theopponent behind schedule on early downs.
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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: October 26, 2017, 09:52:12 AM »
I agree.  Pry is going to have to keep the LB's behind the DL to contain Barrett.  He may even keep someone like Farmer behind the line to spy Barrett.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: October 26, 2017, 09:53:27 AM »
Probably true, and if true, a departure from their tendency. PSU defense has been predicated on winning first down by bringing pressure. They work to get theopponent behind schedule on early downs.
I would still expect some blitzes, but probably fewer than typical.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2017, 09:57:03 AM »
For the first time in maybe 20 years (1996 or so), I am actually confident in my Nits going into the Shoe.  
I was at that game and I hope this one turns out like that one!  My dad and I got tickets and took my brother for his 16th birthday.  It was supposed to be a great game.  The Buckeyes were #3 and the Nittany Lions #4.  Ohio State was 3-0 and coming off of beating the previously undefeated Irish in South Bend.  Penn State was 5-0.  The game was a complete dud.  LA Times article on it.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2017, 10:08:09 AM »
Probably true, and if true, a departure from their tendency. PSU defense has been predicated on winning first down by bringing pressure. They work to get theopponent behind schedule on early downs.
Correct, PSU's defensive success is predicated on forcing long 2nd and 3rd downs, but I think they'll have to achieve that in a different way than rushing 6 automatically.
PSU will definitely show wrinkles on defense that OSU doesn't have on film, I'm positive of that.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2017, 12:14:42 PM »
The focus has been on whether OSU's offense is for real.  I think the bigger question is whether PSU's defense is for real.  They've been solid, but by S+P have faced the following offense by rank:

Akron: 112
Pitt: 80
Georgia State: 113
Iowa: 91
Indiana: 106
Northwestern: 92
Michigan: 85

OSU is currently ranked #2, and I think will challenge PSU in a lot of ways.  I know weather may come, but I'm going to be surprised if both teams don't score a lot of points.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2017, 04:12:59 PM »
interesting sam,

I think PSU had 7 tackles for loss against UM? But UM really has not had a serious passing threat for weeks.

I know everyone is talking about JT, but I'm more interested in the OSU WR's and TE's. They dropped some big passes against OU.

Will they block well on the outside to help spring a big JK or Weber run? Will they run the correct routes, make the right reads on a blitz etc.

I'm still not really sold on this collection, Dixon has probably impressed me the most lately, I'm still not sure there's a "go to guy" on this squad.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2017, 05:03:36 PM »
The 3 predictions I found on ESPN all had the Lions winning.  :16:

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2017, 05:49:51 PM »
Correct, PSU's defensive success is predicated on forcing long 2nd and 3rd downs, but I think they'll have to achieve that in a different way than rushing 6 automatically.
PSU will definitely show wrinkles on defense that OSU doesn't have on film, I'm positive of that.  
Every team shows new wrinkles against OSU.   That's just the deal.  
My curiosity for this game, and the thing that it turns on, is the Buckee defense. 
PSU has so much weaponry between ,Barkley, McSorley, Gisecki and Hamilton.
Your not going to shut them down.   But can you slow them down?
My bet is, not enough. PSU has confidence and momentum, so does OSU.  But I sense an institutional, embedded hunger from PSU that can't be faked, duplicated or manufactured.  It is these non-physical, non Xs and Os that tend to be the difference. 
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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2017, 08:42:11 PM »
The 3 predictions I found on ESPN all had the Lions winning.  :16:
WTF?!?! I didn't add a shopping link to my post. "Lions winning." was underlined like a link, and lead to a Nordstroms site to purchase a Lion Baby book????
« Last Edit: October 26, 2017, 08:44:37 PM by TyphonInc »

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2017, 04:51:24 PM »
Ten years ago today my dad, brother, and I traveled to Happy Valley for the 2007 tOSU/PSU game.  We got our picture with the JoPa statue and got to see the legend in his own environment.  

We also got to see the Buckeyes dominate the Lions in a game in which Ohio State never punted and won easily.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2017, 08:51:50 PM »
Thinking back, I was at the 2002 OSU-PSU game, where Chris Gamble got the INT TD return that won the game.  I was sitting in good seats, but far away from his return, so I had no idea what was happening other than everyone was cheering.

 

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