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Topic: #2 Penn State (4-1, 7-1) at #6 Ohio State (5-0, 7-1) Post Game

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MrNubbz

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2017, 01:04:43 AM »
Oh don't give me that far away crap.You were smashed
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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2017, 01:08:16 AM »
I keep thinking the point spread is a misprint.   I like Urban

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2017, 07:43:20 AM »
Oh don't give me that far away crap.You were smashed
Well you know it was law school I was frequently smashed

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2017, 09:19:44 AM »
I keep thinking the point spread is a misprint.   I like Urban
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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2017, 09:54:54 PM »
O M Goodness! What a game.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2017, 10:54:28 PM »
Barkley had a huge 1st half. Kinda disappeared in the 2nd.

JT put OSU on his back in that 2nd half. Or arm I should say. JT showed up BIG TIME in the 2nd half. Barkley didn't. That's the difference in the game to me. OSU's best player on offense showed up in the clutch. Penn State's didn't. 

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2017, 01:51:32 AM »
We have two outstanding teams in the Big Ten, and others that are incomplete, but competitive.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2017, 08:59:34 AM »
Man, just imagine what those backups who've only seen garbage time could've done. :)

In some ways, this feels like the MSU game in 2014. Crushing garbage "doesn't impress" but it's an indicator of something. I'm not going to lie, in most spots I would have been rooting for PSU because I like the change up. But seeing Barrett, he of the "big game failures" who "can't beat good defenses," lead a comeback from down 18 (15 at the start of the fourth) brings a warmth to my heart.

I guess I would've been OK in both cases, since it was an over-criticized QB vs. a coach who once faced the same thing.

(I'm sorry I'm hammering on something like this, but JT is really one of the most accomplished players in the history of a great program, and it always seems weird to see folks want to toss him off like last month's magazine)

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2017, 09:45:05 AM »
Bravo JT , Bravo 

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2017, 09:57:16 AM »
phenomenal 4th quarter

1) going in, tons of talk about how Ohio States offense beefed up on cupcakes and wasn't for real. but it actually turns out the Penn St defense beefed up it's stats on weak offenses and was exposed on Saturday. 529 total yard of offense for the Buckeyes, the only thing that stopped them was self inflicted fumbles, dropped passes, false start penalties. Without those they probably could have scored 50 points. 
2) Barkley is still a beast, but other than the 30yardish run for a TD he was completely ineffective. 44 yards on 21 carries. He's still going to New York, i'm just not sure he's carrying the trophy away. crazy how much 1 quarter can change that, because at halftime I had all but given him the trophy. 
3) I gotta give James Franklin credit, I truly believe he outcoached Urban in this game. Ohio State was abused in special teams, PSU took advantage of some short fields and what I think was a pretty questionable PI call against Arnette/Webb for a TD. Every time OSU made a mistake, PSU capitalized. Urban needs to give JT a big sloppy kiss today, he saved his butt from a lot of 2nd guessing. 
4) Max/Sam. Did I not say before the game the sideways WR screen passes would be killed in this game? If I never see a sideways pass again from OSU I won't be upset. I felt like there were roughly 7 for a total of -11 yards. 
5) JT Barret, what a game. 33-39 passing and I think he had at least 3 drops on very catchable balls from WRs. 95 more yards on the ground. This was the 2014 MSU game all over, he completely dominated and I think now is staring down his 3rd consecutive silver football trophy. unbelievable game, what a career as well.
6) The Buckeye defense is for real. You don't normally say that after giving up 38 points, but they held Barkely in check, gave up less than 100 yards rushing and less than 200 passing to what I think is a very electric PSU offense. they have a couple of interception calls not go their way, mcsorely really hurt them with his feet. but overall outstanding performance.
7) ironically, was PSU just 1 punt away from winning this game? that blocked punt sparked this team, and if it's not blocked I'm not sure OSU has enough time to make the comeback. they scored I think 3 plays after that. for as bad as the OSU special teams were, there was the 1 bright spot on special teams all night.  

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2017, 10:01:11 AM »
Man, just imagine what those backups who've only seen garbage time could've done. :)

In some ways, this feels like the MSU game in 2014. Crushing garbage "doesn't impress" but it's an indicator of something. I'm not going to lie, in most spots I would have been rooting for PSU because I like the change up. But seeing Barrett, he of the "big game failures" who "can't beat good defenses," lead a comeback from down 18 (15 at the start of the fourth) brings a warmth to my heart.

I guess I would've been OK in both cases, since it was an over-criticized QB vs. a coach who once faced the same thing.

(I'm sorry I'm hammering on something like this, but JT is really one of the most accomplished players in the history of a great program, and it always seems weird to see folks want to toss him off like last month's magazine)
All facts. 

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #95 on: October 29, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »

4) Max/Sam. Did I not say before the game the sideways WR screen passes would be killed in this game? If I never see a sideways pass again from OSU I won't be upset. I felt like there were roughly 7 for a total of -11 yards.

They were getting killed on them BUT:
Go back and look at the game winning play.  The running back and a wide receiver set up like they might get a screen pass.  The linebacker hesitates - should he be running to them?  And as he hesitates Baugh runs past him and JT pitches a touchdown pass.  OSU screens are run with one purpose - to get the other team's back seven thinking about running themselves out of the middle of the field.

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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2017, 10:33:07 AM »
They were getting killed on them BUT:
Go back and look at the game winning play.  The running back and a wide receiver set up like they might get a screen pass.  The linebacker hesitates - should he be running to them?  And as he hesitates Baugh runs past him and JT pitches a touchdown pass.  OSU screens are run with one purpose - to get the other team's back seven thinking about running themselves out of the middle of the field.
Well close.  They actually gained 6-12 yards on 4 or 5 of them.
For an offensive coordinator they serve 3 distinct purpose:
1. It is considered an extension of your running game. The defense has to put people out there to account for it, and it is relatively safe
2. It puts your best athletes out in space immediately allowing the potential for big plays. See Paris Cambell who has taken several for 30-40 yards and one for a long TD.
3. Bingo Sam. The game winning TD happened because the LB and DB over there had to respect it..they both took their first step over that way which allowed Baugh to slip behind them.
It cracks me up that the offense is popping 500 yards a game, and that is a part of why.
It clearly creates space around the box for the backs, and eventually leads to vertical opportunities- yet we stil, question it.  It created the wide open Dixon play that almost went for a TD- one one of the few passes JT under threw.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2017, 10:37:40 AM by Honestbuckeye »
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Re: #2 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) at #6 Ohio State (4-0, 6-1) Game Week
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2017, 11:21:15 AM »
(I'm sorry I'm hammering on something like this, but JT is really one of the most accomplished players in the history of a great program, and it always seems weird to see folks want to toss him off like last month's magazine)
Never wanted to bench him wanted to get some relief for specific situations.There were plenty of times he appeared opposite of last nite.Against UM/Clem/OU he had 0 TD's & 4 int's.Since OU Day & Wilson seemed to have eliminated the hesitation & yips.He got his groove back and it's paid off,he looks like 2014.Hope it continues
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