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Topic: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #238 on: September 19, 2019, 08:09:01 PM »
UW has won the last 3 home games when both teams are ranked in the AP Poll - according to ESPN
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #239 on: September 19, 2019, 08:11:55 PM »
When  were those? 2005 and 2007, I bet. Which is the third?

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #240 on: September 19, 2019, 09:19:11 PM »
Not sure but according to the Sporting News - — Michigan is 8-2 against Wisconsin when both teams are ranked, and that includes last year's 38-13 victory in Ann Arbor, Mich. - so there's that
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #241 on: September 19, 2019, 09:22:09 PM »
Three things to watch
Shea Patterson
The Michigan quarterback has struggled with fumbles through two weeks in new offensive coordinator Josh Gattis' offense. Patterson was 14 of 20 for 124 yards last season against Wisconsin; he'll have to do more through the air in this game, and protecting the football goes without saying. If the Wolverines have three turnovers in this game, they will lose by double digits.
Jack Coan
Wisconsin couldn’t move the ball through the air against Michigan last year, and that led to the blowout loss. Quarterback Jack Coan has hit 76.3 percent of his passes and averaged 9.6 yards per attempt in victories against South Florida and Central Michigan. Quintez Cephus, who averages 18.8 yards per catch with two touchdowns, will need to make a few big catches in this game.
Michigan run defense
Wisconsin's Jonathan Taylor has seen Don Brown's defense twice, and he's had 36 carries for 233 yards in those games. That's an average of 6.5 yards per carry. The Wolverines will have to do better than that on the road. Given the defense allowed just 3.0 yards per carry through games against Middle Tennessee State and Army, that’s possible.

Michigan-Wisconsin prediction

It’s one of the best Big Ten games of the season because both teams know the stakes. Patterson shakes off an early turnover to throw touchdowns to Tarik Black and Nico Collins, but Wisconsin will counter with a long touchdown run from Taylor. The teams will go into the fourth quarter tied, and it will come down to which defense makes the big play. The Wolverines make it, and a late field goal seals a crucial road victory.

Final score
Michigan 29, Wisconsin 27


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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #242 on: September 19, 2019, 09:27:14 PM »
acccording to the Detroit News

Angelique S. Chengelis: Both Michigan and Wisconsin didn’t play last Saturday. The Wolverines needed the time to heal injuries and heal their issues with turnovers. The Badgers are riding high, not having given up a point – against inferior competition, yes – but they did what good teams are supposed to do. Wisconsin running back Jonathan Taylor is a phenomenal talent, but the Michigan defense feels like stopping the run is their wheelhouse and the Wolverines are thrilled to be back to facing a more conventional offense after spending so much prep time for Army. Michigan quarterback Shea Patterson said the Wolverines want to make a statement and Camp Randall as underdogs would certainly be the place to do that. But can they diffuse Taylor? Can the Michigan speed-in-space offense finally click? Michigan has lost its last four at Wisconsin. Wisconsin 17, Michigan 14

Matt Charboneau: It’s only a two-game sample, but the Badgers lead the Big Ten in both scoring offense and scoring defense. Considering they have yet to allow a point, the defensive standing is hardly a surprise. They’ll get their first big test against a Wolverines offense that still looking to find its way under coordinator Josh Gattis. It’s a huge early season matchup that will have implications in both divisions, and playing it at home will benefit the Badgers. Wisconsin 24, Michigan 17


John Niyo: Strangely, this game often boils down to one question: Can the Wolverines’ defense avoid giving up big plays in the passing game? Two years ago in Madison, it was Alex Hornibrook making a few big throws late. Jack Coan is capable of more, but I still think Michigan has enough firepower to survive. Michigan 27, Wisconsin 20


Bob Wojnowski: The Wolverines are in the odd position of having to shake off a victory, in double-OT against Army. They need Shea Patterson at 100 percent, and he says his muscle strain is healed. Jim Harbaugh desperately needs a road victory against a quality opponent, and the Wolverines should be fully motivated as underdogs. The Badgers have a rebuilt offensive line but still have bruising back Jonathan Taylor, who will wear down Michigan’s smallish defensive line. Wisconsin 24, Michigan 20


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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #243 on: September 19, 2019, 10:00:39 PM »
I've seen a good number of analyses for this game. I've also done a bit of research on my own.


I think Big Red is going to show in this one. Big Red will win. 


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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #244 on: September 19, 2019, 10:25:49 PM »
"It's going to be a four-quarter game," said senior linebacker Zack Baun. "We need to take advantage of the opportunity and show everybody what we've got."

"I think they've found a way to utilize everybody, which is definitely harder to prepare for," said Orr. "It'll be a fun task for us as a defense. We want to pride ourselves on being one of the best defenses in the nation.

"You can only do that when you play great offenses."

"I think this is gonna be a big test. From a physical standpoint, it'll be more even," defensive coordinator Jim Leonhard said. "You look at a lot of matchups these last two games, we went in knowing that we could dominate certain matchups and we did. 

"This game, you know it's gonna be a slugfest. Up front, it's not gonna be just dominating left and right, getting them behind the sticks, and controlling the game. You know they're gonna hit plays, gonna hit runs. You're gonna have to make adjustments. 

"It truly will go down as a chess match and not just win with aggression. It's definitely a big test for this group." 



"I think they're extremely athletic, very powerful," offensive coordinator Joe Rudolph explained. "They do a great job of running their base defense. They have quite a number of change-ups within their base to create problems. When they're able to get their sub packages on the field, a lot of different blitz and pressure situations that they can get into.

"It will be a great challenge."


"Ever since my time here, nobody really believes in what we do," said Orr. "They downplay the big wins and up-play the losses. Knocking off the trendy preseason favorite in the Big Ten,

"I am eager to show the nation what we can do, how good we are, and get some type of respect."
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1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #246 on: September 19, 2019, 10:31:18 PM »

The Badgers gained a series lead in 1899 that they didn't relinquish until 1902.

Fast forward to today, and they have a lot of catching up to do. 51-15-1.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #247 on: September 19, 2019, 10:48:54 PM »
"Ever since my time here, nobody really believes in what we do," said Orr. "They downplay the big wins and up-play the losses. Knocking off the trendy preseason favorite in the Big Ten, I am eager to show the nation what we can do, how good we are, and get some type of respect."
That categorizes as equally benign as "We're looking to make a statement." But at least it helps shelve the idea that Michigan players were giving quotes but UW players weren't. All in all, the talk feels equal (and far from "mouthy") to me. 

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #248 on: September 19, 2019, 11:10:43 PM »
I haven't been following it, but the disrespect card seems to be way too overplayed. Michigan v Wisconsin has been won by the home team every year since 2010, and that was the one exception since 2001, before which Michigan dominated the series.

Supposedly Charbonnet will be starting despite the injury rumors, so presuming that's true, Michigan should just need to win/tie the turnover margin. If Patterson is finally healthy then he should be able to keep the ball on RPOs to make that effective, especially with Runyan back at LT. Defensively, supposedly Dwumfour will finally be back, though he's more of a pass-rusher than run-stopper to be sure. Ideally one/both of the freshmen DTs have emerged to become playable as backups, but we'll see. I'm less concerned about the LBs/DBs at this point, especially against Wisconsin, since Cephus should be shut down by Hill, and I don't think Taylor, Davis and the rest are that dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #249 on: September 19, 2019, 11:34:10 PM »
I've seen a good number of analyses for this game. I've also done a bit of research on my own.


I think Big Red is going to show in this one. Big Red will win.


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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #250 on: September 20, 2019, 07:28:21 AM »
I haven't been following it, but the disrespect card seems to be way too overplayed. Michigan v Wisconsin has been won by the home team every year since 2010, and that was the one exception since 2001, before which Michigan dominated the series.

Supposedly Charbonnet will be starting despite the injury rumors, so presuming that's true, Michigan should just need to win/tie the turnover margin. If Patterson is finally healthy then he should be able to keep the ball on RPOs to make that effective, especially with Runyan back at LT. Defensively, supposedly Dwumfour will finally be back, though he's more of a pass-rusher than run-stopper to be sure. Ideally one/both of the freshmen DTs have emerged to become playable as backups, but we'll see. I'm less concerned about the LBs/DBs at this point, especially against Wisconsin, since Cephus should be shut down by Hill, and I don't think Taylor, Davis and the rest are that dangerous, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #251 on: September 20, 2019, 07:55:25 AM »
Not sure what the weather will be.IMO for M to come out on top their passing game has to come together.As 847 pointed out W's starting Safety Nelson is out.UW will get theirs on the ground for sure and Coan appears more than capable of stretching the field.Michigan can't fumble the ball away like they have.UW's line will be fine with (C) Biadasz and (LT) Van Lanen returning.Just saw nose tackle Bryson Williams is injured/out.If the students can get to the game on time the crowd may factor in.It's why they play the games.I'm hoping on a late arrival of out of town relatives.See what happens when a sister makes arrangements with a niece.Nobody ever bothered to ask for my schedule

Oh I forgot the Badgers have won 4 in a row in Madtown

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